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Old 03-29-2007, 07:15 AM
Luca
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VISTA HOME PREMIUM - unable to extend a non system/boot partition

Hi!

First of all, sorry for my english! Then ...

SO: Vista Home Premium

3 disk

disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb
disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb ( ide 0/0 )
disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb ( ide 0/1 )

partitions (all NTFS, created by vista)

disk 0 : volume 0, 48 gb, letter C, boot, system, pagefile, hybernate,
etc.etc.
volume 1, 325gb, letter D

both C and D have datas. I can't make a backup of them.

disk 1: unpartitioned, cointains nothing
disk 2: unpartitioned, cointains nothing

I plan to use disk 2 to backup what I consider my most important files.

Now, the question is :

why I'm not able to extend D (disk 0, volume 1) to merge it with the whole
disk 1 ?

(the option "exted" is grayed out in disk manager).

I would like to have something like this:

disk 0 disk 1
disk 2
|---------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------|
|-------------|--------------------------------------------|-----------------|
C (48gb) D ( 325gb + 300gb)
E (120 gb)



Thank in advance,
Luca.

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Old 03-29-2007, 07:30 AM
Mike
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RE: VISTA HOME PREMIUM - unable to extend a non system/boot partition



"Luca" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi!
>
> First of all, sorry for my english! Then ...
>
> SO: Vista Home Premium
>
> 3 disk
>
> disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb
> disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb ( ide 0/0 )
> disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb ( ide 0/1 )
>
> partitions (all NTFS, created by vista)
>
> disk 0 : volume 0, 48 gb, letter C, boot, system, pagefile, hybernate,
> etc.etc.
> volume 1, 325gb, letter D
>
> both C and D have datas. I can't make a backup of them.
>
> disk 1: unpartitioned, cointains nothing
> disk 2: unpartitioned, cointains nothing
>
> I plan to use disk 2 to backup what I consider my most important files.
>
> Now, the question is :
>
> why I'm not able to extend D (disk 0, volume 1) to merge it with the whole
> disk 1 ?
>
> (the option "exted" is grayed out in disk manager).
>
> I would like to have something like this:
>
> disk 0 disk 1
> disk 2
> |---------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------|
> |-------------|--------------------------------------------|-----------------|
> C (48gb) D ( 325gb + 300gb)
> E (120 gb)
>
>
>
> Thank in advance,
> Luca.
>[/color]

I must say your explanation has thrown me a curve ball-but I will simply
state that in order to extend a partition, you must do it next to adjacent,
UNALLOCATED, space. Also, I'm not sure if this is what you're asking, but it
seems like you are trying to join hard drives, not partitions. I believe you
can only extend partitions on a singular drive. If this hasn't helped, check
out this article:

[url]http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/19a9ac4d-d151-4fde-b187-9f8dfa09cb351033.mspx?mfr=true[/url]

Best,
_Mike
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:00 AM
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RE: VISTA HOME PREMIUM - unable to extend a non system/boot partition

As Mike state, your explanation sounds as if you want to make Drive 0 and
Drive 1 seen as a single drive.

You can only extend a partition into unallocated space. This prevents
extending Partition D: into C:. You can't really remove C:, but it can be
shrunk somewhat.
Resize C: to minimum it allows.
Extend D: to reclaim unallocated space.

Alternatively:
Partition Disk 2 as a Simple Partition.
Copy all important data from D: to Drive 2, then remove the D: partition.
Extend C: partition to encompass all of Drive 0.



"Luca" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi!
>
> First of all, sorry for my english! Then ...
>
> SO: Vista Home Premium
>
> 3 disk
>
> disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb
> disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb ( ide 0/0 )
> disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb ( ide 0/1 )
>
> partitions (all NTFS, created by vista)
>
> disk 0 : volume 0, 48 gb, letter C, boot, system, pagefile, hybernate,
> etc.etc.
> volume 1, 325gb, letter D
>
> both C and D have datas. I can't make a backup of them.
>
> disk 1: unpartitioned, cointains nothing
> disk 2: unpartitioned, cointains nothing
>
> I plan to use disk 2 to backup what I consider my most important files.
>
> Now, the question is :
>
> why I'm not able to extend D (disk 0, volume 1) to merge it with the whole
> disk 1 ?
>
> (the option "exted" is grayed out in disk manager).
>
> I would like to have something like this:
>
> disk 0 disk 1
> disk 2
> |---------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------|
> |-------------|--------------------------------------------|-----------------|
> C (48gb) D ( 325gb + 300gb)
> E (120 gb)
>
>
>
> Thank in advance,
> Luca.
>[/color]
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:15 AM
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"Mike" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I must say your explanation has thrown me a curve ball-[/color]

I don't know what the above means but it sounds bad .... Sorry ... :(
[color=blue]
> but I will simply > state that in order to extend a partition, you must do
> it next to adjacent, UNALLOCATED, space. Also, I'm not sure if this is
> what you're asking, but it seems like you are trying to join hard drives, not
> partitions. I believe you can only extend partitions on a singular drive.[/color]

I'm trying to join a partition on a drive ( disk 0, part 2) to an emty hard
drive ( disk 1 ).

It's seems strange to me that if I try to do such an operation using other
partitions, it does work.

i.e. :

disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb, volume C, volume D
disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb EMPTY
disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb, volume E

I'm able to extend volume E using empty space on disk 1

I'm NOT able to extend volume D using empty space on disk 1.

Sigh ....






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Old 03-29-2007, 11:00 AM
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RE: VISTA HOME PREMIUM - unable to extend a non system/boot partit



"mhonzell" wrote:
[color=blue]
> You can only extend a partition into unallocated space.[/color]

It's seems strange to me that if I try to do such an operation using other
partitions, it does work.

i.e. :

disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb, volume C, volume D
disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb EMPTY
disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb, volume E

I'm able to extend volume E using empty space on disk 1

I'm NOT able to extend volume D using empty space on disk 1.


So it seems to be possibile to join a partition to unallocated space
beloging to another phisical disk.

I wonder why I can join E: to disk 1 but I can't join D: to disk 1.

Sigh ....



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Old 03-29-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: VISTA HOME PREMIUM - unable to extend a non system/boot partit

Are disk 0, 1, and 2 all basic disks or dynamic?

Is Volume D a primary partition or logical partition?

"Luca" <Luca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0E4FB32E-31AE-4B55-A925-26BCCFE97E09@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
>
> "mhonzell" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> You can only extend a partition into unallocated space.[/color]
>
> It's seems strange to me that if I try to do such an operation using other
> partitions, it does work.
>
> i.e. :
>
> disk 0 : sata, ~400 gb, volume C, volume D
> disk 1 : pata, ~300 gb EMPTY
> disk 2 : pata, ~120 gb, volume E
>
> I'm able to extend volume E using empty space on disk 1
>
> I'm NOT able to extend volume D using empty space on disk 1.
>
>
> So it seems to be possibile to join a partition to unallocated space
> beloging to another phisical disk.
>
> I wonder why I can join E: to disk 1 but I can't join D: to disk 1.
>
> Sigh ....
>
>
>[/color]


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Old 03-29-2007, 12:15 PM
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"LaRoux" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Are disk 0, 1, and 2 all basic disks or dynamic?
>
> Is Volume D a primary partition or logical partition?[/color]

disk 0, 1, 2 are all basic disks

both D and E are primay partition


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Old 03-29-2007, 11:15 PM
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"Luca" wrote:
[color=blue]
> why I'm not able to extend D (disk 0, volume 1) to merge it with the whole
> disk 1 ?
>
> (the option "exted" is grayed out in disk manager).[/color]

Finally I think I found where the problem is.

Vista thinks disk 0 is a removable drive so I cannot extend any partition on
disk 0 by joining it to unallocated space on disk 1.

Now, if I'm right, the question is WHY it thinks so and HOW can I revert
this ?

motherboard: asus p5rd1-vm
controller: integrated ULI M1573 southbridge, 4xsata with raid 0, 1,
0+1, jobd

ULI's manual doesn't report hotswap capabilities and I did not use raid (I
have only one sata disk, disk 0).

mmmmmmmmm .....


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Old 05-27-2008, 08:50 AM
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ztipkorb wrote:[color=blue]
> hello everybody! i'm also using *P5RD1-VM* motherboard, w/ Intel
> Celeron CPU 2.66ghz, 512mb ddr1, and running a 32bit Vista Ultimate.
> I just upgrade my OS from XP to Vista Ultimate, and same problem i
> encountered, one is AUDIO problem, my SoundMax Audio driver doesn't
> seem to work. Please share if you have found any solution regarding
> this problem. Thanks. PS. I also have problem regarding dial-up
> connection. Why is may connectivity status is always NO or LIMITED
> connectivity..[/color]

Your header says " unable to extend a non system/boot partition".

Describe the steps you have taken to resolve this problem.
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