In vista like in Win2k and unlike XP, when you press alt-ctrl-del
then you get options, and only one of them is the task manager.

The correct key-combo would be now (for vista but works for win2k and xp as
well) ctrl-shift-esc to get the taskmanager up.

Of course you can also right click on the taskbar and select
taskmanager too.

Great tip. Thanks!

I like the little shortcut keys, and am making a nice little list of
them. They really speed things up.


--
Dustin Harper
[email]dharper@vistarip.com[/email]
[url]http://www.vistarip.com[/url] | Vista Resource & Information Page


kirk jim wrote:[color=blue]
> In vista like in Win2k and unlike XP, when you press alt-ctrl-del
> then you get options, and only one of them is the task manager.
>
> The correct key-combo would be now (for vista but works for win2k and xp as
> well) ctrl-shift-esc to get the taskmanager up.
>
> Of course you can also right click on the taskbar and select
> taskmanager too.
>
>
>
>[/color]

Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give me
the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.

Correct key-combo? As opposed to?


"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:#gtA72HcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> In vista like in Win2k and unlike XP, when you press alt-ctrl-del
> then you get options, and only one of them is the task manager.
>
> The correct key-combo would be now (for vista but works for win2k and xp
> as well) ctrl-shift-esc to get the taskmanager up.
>
> Of course you can also right click on the taskbar and select
> taskmanager too.
>
>
>
>[/color]

"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give me
> the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>
> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>[/color]


In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In Win2000 and
Vista it brings up a selection of choices.

This is what he meant.

ss.

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:uADj4vJcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
> news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give me
>> the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>>
>> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>>[/color]
>
>
> In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In Win2000 and
> Vista it brings up a selection of choices.
>
> This is what he meant.[/color]

Not on a single XP machine I've ever used. Ctrl + Alt + Del brings up a
window with six options, LOCK COMPUTER, LOG OFF, SHUT DOWN, CHANGE PASSWORD,
TASK MANAGER and CANCEL.

"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:OBEKy2JcHHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
> news:uADj4vJcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>> news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give
>>> me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>>>
>>> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In Win2000
>> and Vista it brings up a selection of choices.
>>
>> This is what he meant.[/color]
>
> Not on a single XP machine I've ever used. Ctrl + Alt + Del brings up a
> window with six options, LOCK COMPUTER, LOG OFF, SHUT DOWN, CHANGE
> PASSWORD, TASK MANAGER and CANCEL.
>[/color]

You must be weird then.

ss.

I was after that info Captain !
Thanks !


"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:%23gtA72HcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> In vista like in Win2k and unlike XP, when you press alt-ctrl-del
> then you get options, and only one of them is the task manager.
>
> The correct key-combo would be now (for vista but works for win2k and xp
> as well) ctrl-shift-esc to get the taskmanager up.
>
> Of course you can also right click on the taskbar and select
> taskmanager too.
>
>
>
>[/color]

No its a setting..

XP by default has it as I say.. alt ctrl del shows the task manager

So justin is right too but its strange how all of the xp machines
he has used has been configured like that....

what are the odds? Or perhaps he has only used one machine ever...

his! lol



"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:eD5MN5JcHHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
> news:OBEKy2JcHHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in
>> message news:uADj4vJcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give
>>>> me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In Win2000
>>> and Vista it brings up a selection of choices.
>>>
>>> This is what he meant.[/color]
>>
>> Not on a single XP machine I've ever used. Ctrl + Alt + Del brings up a
>> window with six options, LOCK COMPUTER, LOG OFF, SHUT DOWN, CHANGE
>> PASSWORD, TASK MANAGER and CANCEL.
>>[/color]
>
> You must be weird then.
>
> ss.[/color]

This is from my XP keyboard guide, which is attached. I submit that the below facts may guide us to a hypothsis on Windows Vista's behaviour and that of previous versions. Key Description
Ctrl + Alt + Delete Starts the Close Program dialog box (Windows 9x), Security dialog (NT, 2000, XP if Welcome Screen disabled), and Task Manager (XP with Welcome Screen enabled)
Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Delete Quickly reboots NT4SP4 and later systems. Does not appear to work on XP.
Note: A registry key needs to be set to enable this key sequence.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\
Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
EnableQuickReboot=1 as a RegSZ (a string).
Ctrl + Alt + Delete twice on the Welcome Screen Presents the non Welcome Screen logon. This works on XP Pro only
Ctrl + Shift + Esc Starts the Close Program dialog box (Windows 9x) or Task Manager (NT, 2000, XP)
Ctrl + Alt + Shift and Close or Cancel in the Shutdown dialog Closes down Window's shell in a normal shutdown without logging off.. Use Task Manager's File - New Task (Run) ... dialog to start Explorer to restart the shell.



"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eD5MN5JcHHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
> news:OBEKy2JcHHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
>> news:uADj4vJcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give
>>>> me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In Win2000
>>> and Vista it brings up a selection of choices.
>>>
>>> This is what he meant.[/color]
>>
>> Not on a single XP machine I've ever used. Ctrl + Alt + Del brings up a
>> window with six options, LOCK COMPUTER, LOG OFF, SHUT DOWN, CHANGE
>> PASSWORD, TASK MANAGER and CANCEL.
>>[/color]
>
> You must be weird then.
>
> ss.
>[/color]

I believe this is the behavior for XP machines joined to a Domain vs.
Workgroup.

"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:OBEKy2JcHHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
> news:uADj4vJcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>> news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give
>>> me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>>>
>>> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In Win2000
>> and Vista it brings up a selection of choices.
>>
>> This is what he meant.[/color]
>
> Not on a single XP machine I've ever used. Ctrl + Alt + Del brings up a
> window with six options, LOCK COMPUTER, LOG OFF, SHUT DOWN, CHANGE
> PASSWORD, TASK MANAGER and CANCEL.
>
>
>[/color]

"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:u5QRtLKcHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> No its a setting..
>
> XP by default has it as I say.. alt ctrl del shows the task manager
>
> So justin is right too but its strange how all of the xp machines
> he has used has been configured like that....
>
> what are the odds? Or perhaps he has only used one machine ever...
>
> his! lol[/color]

This is where your experience shines through. When you join an XP machine
to a domain the login behavior changes.

I was wondering what your response was going to be and it came out to be
very interesting. You claim this setting was changed based on my using a
single machine when this is domain behavior? Try again. Your blanket
statements are what get you into the most trouble.

When XP is on a domain, CTRL+ALT+DEL will bring up the six option screen.
When it is not on a domain, it will bring up the Task Manager.
The best key combination is CTRL+SHIFT+ESC, which brings up Task Manager
regardless of the domain association. Its also nice because it doesn't clear
the screen first.

Task manager rungs at a higher priority than other programs and utilities.
Therefore, it will typically respond when other programs will not.
CTRL+ALT+DEL and CTRL+SHIFT+ESC sequences are System Request Attention type
functions which also have a high priority since they have a more direct
connection to the hardware.

Using CTRL+SHIFT+ESC does not clear the screen before Task Manager appears.
So if you are trying to troubleshoot something on the screen that is not
responding, use this. Otherwise you may not be able to see the 'hung'
application screen when Task Manager appears.

Thanx,

Daytona

"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:u5QRtLKcHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> No its a setting..
>
> XP by default has it as I say.. alt ctrl del shows the task manager
>
> So justin is right too but its strange how all of the xp machines
> he has used has been configured like that....
>
> what are the odds? Or perhaps he has only used one machine ever...
>
> his! lol
>
>
>
> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
> news:eD5MN5JcHHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>> news:OBEKy2JcHHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in
>>> message news:uADj4vJcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give
>>>>> me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In Win2000
>>>> and Vista it brings up a selection of choices.
>>>>
>>>> This is what he meant.
>>>
>>> Not on a single XP machine I've ever used. Ctrl + Alt + Del brings up a
>>> window with six options, LOCK COMPUTER, LOG OFF, SHUT DOWN, CHANGE
>>> PASSWORD, TASK MANAGER and CANCEL.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> You must be weird then.
>>
>> ss.[/color]
>
>[/color]

"LaRoux" <hlx@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:uMS5xWKcHHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I believe this is the behavior for XP machines joined to a Domain vs.
>Workgroup.[/color]

:)

You can also perform this without joining a domain if you disable the
welcome screen.

Not so... stand alone machines can be configured that way also...

:-) Now see this ... perhaps she will wake you from your vista trance

[url]http://www.msdewey.com/[/url]



"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:%23A3KCbKcHHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:u5QRtLKcHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> No its a setting..
>>
>> XP by default has it as I say.. alt ctrl del shows the task manager
>>
>> So justin is right too but its strange how all of the xp machines
>> he has used has been configured like that....
>>
>> what are the odds? Or perhaps he has only used one machine ever...
>>
>> his! lol[/color]
>
> This is where your experience shines through. When you join an XP machine
> to a domain the login behavior changes.
>
> I was wondering what your response was going to be and it came out to be
> very interesting. You claim this setting was changed based on my using a
> single machine when this is domain behavior? Try again. Your blanket
> statements are what get you into the most trouble.[/color]

you got it....

so it seems that it just happend that EVERY SINGLE XP computer you have
used is on a domain or has the welcome screen disabled...

Yeah right.... lol....




"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:OownMcKcHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "LaRoux" <hlx@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uMS5xWKcHHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I believe this is the behavior for XP machines joined to a Domain vs.
>>Workgroup.[/color]
>
> :)
>
> You can also perform this without joining a domain if you disable the
> welcome screen.[/color]