you got it....

so it seems that it just happend that EVERY SINGLE XP computer you have
used is on a domain or has the welcome screen disabled...

Yeah right.... lol....




"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:OownMcKcHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "LaRoux" <hlx@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uMS5xWKcHHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I believe this is the behavior for XP machines joined to a Domain vs.
>>Workgroup.[/color]
>
> :)
>
> You can also perform this without joining a domain if you disable the
> welcome screen.[/color]

by the way type the word "vista" in the box and press enter...

lol she has no clue....

I guess vista is not sexy enough.. LOL!



"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:%23A3KCbKcHHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:u5QRtLKcHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> No its a setting..
>>
>> XP by default has it as I say.. alt ctrl del shows the task manager
>>
>> So justin is right too but its strange how all of the xp machines
>> he has used has been configured like that....
>>
>> what are the odds? Or perhaps he has only used one machine ever...
>>
>> his! lol[/color]
>
> This is where your experience shines through. When you join an XP machine
> to a domain the login behavior changes.
>
> I was wondering what your response was going to be and it came out to be
> very interesting. You claim this setting was changed based on my using a
> single machine when this is domain behavior? Try again. Your blanket
> statements are what get you into the most trouble.[/color]

"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:uxqYhkKcHHA.4460@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Not so... stand alone machines can be configured that way also...[/color]

Yup, the welcome screen was already discussed. Where were you?

"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:eaPD0kKcHHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> you got it....[/color]

That's funny, you say that as if you had a clue prior to your OP.
[color=blue]
> so it seems that it just happend that EVERY SINGLE XP computer you have
> used is on a domain or has the welcome screen disabled...[/color]

Yup. Even at home I'm joined to a domain. As for any other machine I've
used outside of domain, I've never had the need to use that combo. In fact,
The only time I use that combo is for CRTL+ALT+DEL, ENTER.

Either way, my objective was completed. I would keep your blanket
statements to a minimum.

Synapse Syndrome wrote:[color=blue]
> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
> news:OBEKy2JcHHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in
>> message news:uADj4vJcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos
>>>> give me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In
>>> Win2000 and Vista it brings up a selection of choices.
>>>
>>> This is what he meant.[/color]
>>
>> Not on a single XP machine I've ever used. Ctrl + Alt + Del brings up
>> a window with six options, LOCK COMPUTER, LOG OFF, SHUT DOWN, CHANGE
>> PASSWORD, TASK MANAGER and CANCEL.
>>[/color]
>
> You must be weird then.
>
> ss.[/color]

If XP Pro is joined to a domain, the domain security screen will come up
(the window with 6 options). If you run XP Pro never joined to a domain
or XP home, then Ctrl + Alt + Del will bring up the task manager instead
of the domain security window. This was a change they made from 2000 to
XP. In 2000 Pro, anytime you pressed Ctrl + Alt + Del the security
screen would come up regardless if you were on a machine joined to a
domain or not. That change annoyed me, it was one of the things I hated
about XP when it was new.

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"Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message news:euc0r6$gqk$1@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> If XP Pro is joined to a domain, the domain security screen will come up[/color]

This was already disussed and more of a mater of the welcome screen being
turned off.
[color=blue]
> If you run XP Pro never joined to a domain then Ctrl + Alt + Del will
> bring up the task manager instead[/color]

Not 100% accurate. You can remove the domain association then choose to
turn the welcome screen back on.

of course I have a clue.... I said that xp can be set up that way.

I have set many computers up that way in offices that dont want welcome
screens so that they will have to type both the account name and the
password, while the welcome screen gives you the account name ready.

Its you who didnt have a clue that alt ctrl delete pops up the taskmanager
from a default settings window XP machine.




"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
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> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:eaPD0kKcHHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> you got it....[/color]
>
> That's funny, you say that as if you had a clue prior to your OP.
>[color=green]
>> so it seems that it just happend that EVERY SINGLE XP computer you have
>> used is on a domain or has the welcome screen disabled...[/color]
>
> Yup. Even at home I'm joined to a domain. As for any other machine I've
> used outside of domain, I've never had the need to use that combo. In
> fact, The only time I use that combo is for CRTL+ALT+DEL, ENTER.
>
> Either way, my objective was completed. I would keep your blanket
> statements to a minimum.[/color]

It depends on the welcome screen. The welcome screen is disabled on a
domain. It may or may not be on on a non domain machine. But it is the
welcome screen not domain membership that determines it.
"Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message news:euc0r6$gqk$1@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Synapse Syndrome wrote:[color=green]
>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>> news:OBEKy2JcHHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in
>>> message news:uADj4vJcHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OzEyK$IcHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about? Both key combos give
>>>>> me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well as Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct key-combo? As opposed to?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In XP, Ctrl + Alt + Del used to bring up the Task Manager. In Win2000
>>>> and Vista it brings up a selection of choices.
>>>>
>>>> This is what he meant.
>>>
>>> Not on a single XP machine I've ever used. Ctrl + Alt + Del brings up a
>>> window with six options, LOCK COMPUTER, LOG OFF, SHUT DOWN, CHANGE
>>> PASSWORD, TASK MANAGER and CANCEL.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> You must be weird then.
>>
>> ss.[/color]
>
> If XP Pro is joined to a domain, the domain security screen will come up
> (the window with 6 options). If you run XP Pro never joined to a domain
> or XP home, then Ctrl + Alt + Del will bring up the task manager instead
> of the domain security window. This was a change they made from 2000 to
> XP. In 2000 Pro, anytime you pressed Ctrl + Alt + Del the security screen
> would come up regardless if you were on a machine joined to a domain or
> not. That change annoyed me, it was one of the things I hated about XP
> when it was new.
>
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"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
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> of course I have a clue.... I said that xp can be set up that way.[/color]

No you didn't. Thus your reply:

"So justin is right too but its strange how all of the xp machines
he has used has been configured like that...."

If you had a CLUE then that would not have been "strange" to you.

[color=blue]
> I have set many computers up that way in offices that dont want welcome
> screens so that they will have to type both the account name and the
> password, while the welcome screen gives you the account name ready.[/color]

Or you can hit CTRL+ALT+DEL twice.

[color=blue]
> Its you who didnt have a clue that alt ctrl delete pops up the taskmanager
> from a default settings window XP machine.[/color]

Ah! Correction little man. Let's go back:

"Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about?"

I was addressing the fact that your blanket statement was wrong.

There is absolutely nothing "UNLIKE XP" in regards to the Windows Security
Dialog. So your statement is 99% false.

Then I stated fact:

"Both key combos give me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well
as Vista."

Then, to date, this still holds true:

"Not on a single XP machine I've ever used."

I have never hit CTRL+ALT+DEL on an XP machine and gotten the task manager.
Which is further supported by the fact that I only use that for LOCK
COMPUTER (as I already stated).

"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:%23qLAtyLcHHA.4216@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> Then I stated fact:
>
> "Both key combos give me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well
> as Vista."
>
> Then, to date, this still holds true:
>
> "Not on a single XP machine I've ever used."
>
> I have never hit CTRL+ALT+DEL on an XP machine and gotten the task
> manager. Which is further supported by the fact that I only use that for
> LOCK COMPUTER (as I already stated).[/color]


You are weird after all.

ss.

I am being ironic there.. implying that you have worked on only one machine
in your life...... since all the machines you have used was like that
its strange, therefore the conclusion is that you have worked on only one
xp machine....

forget it.... you didnt get it then you wont get it now...



"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:%23qLAtyLcHHA.4216@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:#tiF2nLcHHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> of course I have a clue.... I said that xp can be set up that way.[/color]
>
> No you didn't. Thus your reply:
>
> "So justin is right too but its strange how all of the xp machines
> he has used has been configured like that...."
>
> If you had a CLUE then that would not have been "strange" to you.
>
>[color=green]
>> I have set many computers up that way in offices that dont want welcome
>> screens so that they will have to type both the account name and the
>> password, while the welcome screen gives you the account name ready.[/color]
>
> Or you can hit CTRL+ALT+DEL twice.
>
>[color=green]
>> Its you who didnt have a clue that alt ctrl delete pops up the
>> taskmanager
>> from a default settings window XP machine.[/color]
>
> Ah! Correction little man. Let's go back:
>
> "Unlike XP? What the heck are you talking about?"
>
> I was addressing the fact that your blanket statement was wrong.
>
> There is absolutely nothing "UNLIKE XP" in regards to the Windows Security
> Dialog. So your statement is 99% false.
>
> Then I stated fact:
>
> "Both key combos give me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as well
> as Vista."
>
> Then, to date, this still holds true:
>
> "Not on a single XP machine I've ever used."
>
> I have never hit CTRL+ALT+DEL on an XP machine and gotten the task
> manager. Which is further supported by the fact that I only use that for
> LOCK COMPUTER (as I already stated).[/color]

"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:u14743LcHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I am being ironic there.. implying that you have worked on only one machine
>in your life...... since all the machines you have used was like that
> its strange, therefore the conclusion is that you have worked on only one
> xp machine....
>
> forget it.... you didnt get it then you wont get it now...[/color]

Trust me, I get it. I also get how false your conclusion is.

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
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> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qLAtyLcHHA.4216@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
>> Then I stated fact:
>>
>> "Both key combos give me the exact same windows in both W2K and XP as
>> well as Vista."
>>
>> Then, to date, this still holds true:
>>
>> "Not on a single XP machine I've ever used."
>>
>> I have never hit CTRL+ALT+DEL on an XP machine and gotten the task
>> manager. Which is further supported by the fact that I only use that for
>> LOCK COMPUTER (as I already stated).[/color]
>
>
> You are weird after all.[/color]

I agree. This entire time I could have been hitting WinKey+L.

Justin wrote:[color=blue]
> "Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message news:euc0r6$gqk$1@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> If XP Pro is joined to a domain, the domain security screen will come up[/color]
>
> This was already disussed and more of a mater of the welcome screen
> being turned off.
>[color=green]
>> If you run XP Pro never joined to a domain then Ctrl + Alt + Del will
>> bring up the task manager instead[/color]
>
> Not 100% accurate. You can remove the domain association then choose to
> turn the welcome screen back on.[/color]

That's true, I was just describing it's default behavior.

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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:05:43 -0700, "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
>news:#tiF2nLcHHA.4836@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> of course I have a clue.... I said that xp can be set up that way.[/color]
>
>No you didn't. Thus your reply:
>
>"So justin is right too but its strange how all of the xp machines
>he has used has been configured like that...."
>
>If you had a CLUE then that would not have been "strange" to you.[/color]

Justin ===>

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