jim kirk wrote:[color=blue]
> Adam, please.. I know the solution.. it is not me
> who I am worried about...
>
> please read my Educating the MVPs post that is newer than this thread..
> I explain the problem, and I give the solution.
>[/color]
Not really. Your bloated ego seems to be taking numerous hits of late.
Feeling a little deflated are you newbie?
Frank

my ego?

Sorry if it seems like I have an inflated ego..
This is not the case really.

however it is only a reaction to the denial of the MVPs
that there is a problem with vista and flash...


their posts are clueless saying "flash is working here".
Their attitude most of the time is bad...
Especially to those who think vista is not as good as it should be. And
thats not how an MVP should be in my opinion.

I know no one can know everything.. and I dont hate anyone...

we are all in a learning journey.

All they have to do really is to take a stroll on google and
see whats really going on with vista and flash

There is a problem... but there are solutions... and I am sure
they will fix it soon. Flash is too big a thing on the internet now.


"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
news:OaD84I%23bHHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> jim kirk wrote:[color=green]
>> Adam, please.. I know the solution.. it is not me
>> who I am worried about...
>>
>> please read my Educating the MVPs post that is newer than this thread.. I
>> explain the problem, and I give the solution.
>>[/color]
> Not really. Your bloated ego seems to be taking numerous hits of late.
> Feeling a little deflated are you newbie?
> Frank[/color]

you can always close the application or be invisible ...

but I have seen that IM is not only for fun...

when you use it for working with other people it boosts
productivity and collaboration...

I guess it depends on what kind of work you do...

I love IM... its like being in an almost telepathic communication with other
people.

I do however have a very small select group of people on my list.... I
understand what you mean....



"Joe Grover" <grover.joe@acd.net> wrote in message
news:eiOHaF%23bHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My posts to this newsgroup notwithstanding, I just hate talking to people.
> ;) Or more to the point, I hate them talking to me when I'm doing other
> things. Forums I don't mind. Instant messaging just isn't for me though.
> Nothing wrong with the technology.
>
>
> "jim kirk" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:eIX6579bHHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hello Joe...
>>
>> why do you hate IM programs?
>>
>> Can you explain?
>>
>>
>> "Joe Grover" <grover.joe@acd.net> wrote in message
>> news:%235FnC69bHHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> It seems to be an issue with Live Messenger being on a PC that doesn't
>>> have Flash. I think anyone using Live Messenger deserves what they get.
>>> ;) Not because of any experience I have with it, I just hate IM
>>> programs, hehe.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike" <jmgsjunkmail@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ORyXU29bHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> What an idiot. I have Vista Business installed on a 2 year old Dell
>>>> and have had no problems at all. Flash works fine for me and so does
>>>> other programs. May be the operator and not Vista??????
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

I also never had a problem with Flash. Installed Vista, went to the Flash
site, installed it, and "it just works". :-)

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] [email]rgharper******.com[/email]
* NEW! Catch my blog ... [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/[/url]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - [url]http://rgharper.mvps.org/[/url]
* HELP us help YOU ... [url]http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm[/url]


"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:ekv1be9bHHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Flash works fine for me On IE 7.0 On Vista Ultimate[/color]

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:ekv1be9bHHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[color=blue]
> Flash works fine for me On IE 7.0 On Vista Ultimate[/color]


Thar she blows!

The "Works on My Machine" Certification Program
[url]http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000818.html[/url]

--
=======================================
"If you can't make it good, at least make it look good."
- Bill Gates
=======================================

Hello..
[color=blue]
> "it just works".[/color]

No, "you were just lucky" :)

If you had installed messenger first and gotten a wink
installed flash, then you would be posting here for help

hehe


"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:OdTZ4u%23bHHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I also never had a problem with Flash. Installed Vista, went to the Flash
>site, installed it, and "it just works". :-)
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] [email]rgharper******.com[/email]
> * NEW! Catch my blog ... [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/[/url]
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * The Website - [url]http://rgharper.mvps.org/[/url]
> * HELP us help YOU ... [url]http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm[/url]
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ekv1be9bHHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Flash works fine for me On IE 7.0 On Vista Ultimate[/color]
>
>[/color]

"jim kirk" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:#Ozhxj9bHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Ok can you please tell all the users of the world how to install it one by
> one yourself.....devote your whole life posting[/color]

Sure! You download it and install it. Done!

I'm guessing this has to do with your BS "educating the MVPs" post? That
issue is not wide spread. It's a security issue that is not found on all
installations. Once again you fail to find an achilles heel.
[color=blue]
> on hundreds of thousands of forums informing them, because you seem[/color]

Oh please. When are you going to drop the drama queen act?

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS!!!! Idiot.
[color=blue]
> so smart and everyone else is dumb....[/color]

Who said these people are dumb? Man, your ignorance is through the roof!
[color=blue]
> Sorry, there should be no special requirements needed for the flashplayer
> installation... no tricks... nil.[/color]

Yup and there isn't. It also shouldn't take people HOURS to install a video
card on Linux nor should they be redirected to an 8 page webpage for
instructions on how to do it nor should they have to down grade to an
existing version and WAIT for an update in order to move forward. But they
do. Wait... what was your point again?
[color=blue]
> I have seen hundreds of people having problem with this...[/color]

Hundreds? What happened to HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS!!!! You seem to be a liar
at best.

"jim kirk" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:#hXxUO#bHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> their posts are clueless saying "flash is working here".[/color]

Interesting, post a specific thread in here where an MVP answered that their
flash is working and ended it with that.

....and it better be BEFORE a solution was given.

That video has been posted here so many times it's absurd.

I like how he emphasizes ALL components. Because as we all know Vista
doesn't work with either Intel or AMD nor any of the Intel chipsets.

I think that idiot tried installing Vista on his G3.




"RobDee" <robd@terra.es> wrote in message
news:56qisvF291rtpU1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
>
> "jim kirk" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:ey0nSV9bHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Sure people are buying vista, with new PCs or because
>> they love microsoft products.. but boy are they in for a surprise... see
>> what this guy did with his vista...
>>
>> I guess people like him count towards your 20 million, hey Richard Urban?
>>
>> [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno[/url]
>>
>> If you are on vista and you cannot see the flash video read the
>> following>>>
>>
>> I wonder why flash installs on IE7 on XP and
>> on firefox on XP and vista.. but NOT IE7 on Vista?
>> Heck you can even install flash on linux with firefox!!![/color]
>
>
> Just watched it - on a Vista machine - no problems with watching - apart
> from the guy's just a dick!
>
> "My machine's new!" He says - yep, so are many other cheap and nasty
> pieces of crap new. I've got the thing sussed - those people having major
> problems with Vista all have low spec or ancient hardware - they should
> stick to a third rate OS for their third rate machines - I hear Linux is
> good - unless you have high spec or recent hardware.
>
> HTH HAND
>
>
>[color=green]
>> Is it perhaps that VISTA IS STUPID??????
>>[/color]
>[/color]

"Joe Grover" <grover.joe@acd.net> wrote in message
news:#5FnC69bHHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It seems to be an issue with Live Messenger being on a PC that doesn't
> have Flash. I think anyone using Live Messenger deserves what they get.
> ;) Not because of any experience I have with it, I just hate IM programs,
> hehe.[/color]

I have live messenger installed. I further believe I installed Flash much
later. I'm guessing it's an OS upgrade security issue. There are PLENTY of
those.

> You seem to be a liar at best.

ahhh justin there you are...nice to see you too

And I was wondering where my friend was :-)






"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:OhUOmz%23bHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "jim kirk" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:#Ozhxj9bHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Ok can you please tell all the users of the world how to install it one
>> by one yourself.....devote your whole life posting[/color]
>
> Sure! You download it and install it. Done!
>
> I'm guessing this has to do with your BS "educating the MVPs" post? That
> issue is not wide spread. It's a security issue that is not found on all
> installations. Once again you fail to find an achilles heel.
>[color=green]
>> on hundreds of thousands of forums informing them, because you seem[/color]
>
> Oh please. When are you going to drop the drama queen act?
>
> HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS!!!! Idiot.
>[color=green]
>> so smart and everyone else is dumb....[/color]
>
> Who said these people are dumb? Man, your ignorance is through the roof!
>[color=green]
>> Sorry, there should be no special requirements needed for the flashplayer
>> installation... no tricks... nil.[/color]
>
> Yup and there isn't. It also shouldn't take people HOURS to install a
> video card on Linux nor should they be redirected to an 8 page webpage for
> instructions on how to do it nor should they have to down grade to an
> existing version and WAIT for an update in order to move forward. But
> they do. Wait... what was your point again?
>[color=green]
>> I have seen hundreds of people having problem with this...[/color]
>
> Hundreds? What happened to HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS!!!! You seem to be a
> liar at best.[/color]

Nope... you have to install messenger...

send or recieve a wink, Live messenger then prompts you to install flash,
then go to the MS site to
install the flash player from there,

THEN you will have the flash trouble...


Since live messenger is flat on the start menu and even on the welcome
center... this is a common problem

I have been monitoring various sources on this problem
.....for a looonngg time

You can always ask MVP jonathan Key from the live messenger newsgroup. He is
a protoype for an MVP...

Always knowledgable, always kind....
He will confirm this problem.




"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:u83fi3%23bHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Joe Grover" <grover.joe@acd.net> wrote in message
> news:#5FnC69bHHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> It seems to be an issue with Live Messenger being on a PC that doesn't
>> have Flash. I think anyone using Live Messenger deserves what they get.
>> ;) Not because of any experience I have with it, I just hate IM
>> programs, hehe.[/color]
>
> I have live messenger installed. I further believe I installed Flash much
> later. I'm guessing it's an OS upgrade security issue. There are PLENTY
> of those.[/color]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:31:50 +0300, "jim kirk" <11@11.11> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> You seem to be a liar at best.[/color]
>
>ahhh justin there you are...nice to see you too
>
>And I was wondering where my friend was :-)
>[/color]

Justin was at the nearest duck pond trying to see if he could drown
another duck if he de-oiled it. Another thread... LOL!

jim kirk wrote:
[color=blue]
> however it is only a reaction to the denial of the MVPs
> that there is a problem with vista and flash...
>[/color]

Really? How strange. I've been using Vista since the 4k betas and now
have 2 x32 and 1 x64 Ultimates installed and have never had a problem
with flash.
Frank

Kay
...winston

"jim kirk" <11@11.11> wrote in message news:e5a%23W8%23bHHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
:
: You can always ask MVP jonathan Key from the live messenger newsgroup. He is
: a protoype for an MVP...
:
: Always knowledgable, always kind....
: He will confirm this problem.
:
:
:
:
: "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
: news:u83fi3%23bHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > "Joe Grover" <grover.joe@acd.net> wrote in message
: > news:#5FnC69bHHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: >> It seems to be an issue with Live Messenger being on a PC that doesn't
: >> have Flash. I think anyone using Live Messenger deserves what they get.
: >> ;) Not because of any experience I have with it, I just hate IM
: >> programs, hehe.
: >
: > I have live messenger installed. I further believe I installed Flash much
: > later. I'm guessing it's an OS upgrade security issue. There are PLENTY
: > of those.
: