Adam Albright wrote:
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> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:55:29 -0600, "Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Just looked at the Ubuntu newsgroup our freind Alias has posted 2
>>questions and has replyed to a couple of posts in the last five days.
>>Seems to spend a lot more time posting here.[/color]
>
> He's probably lonesome, never that much activity in Linux groups. ;-)[/color]

It is indeed difficult to answer support questions for an OS which for the
most part just works. =)

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
君のこと忘れたときがないから

Darkelldar wrote:[color=blue]
> Just looked at the Ubuntu newsgroup our freind Alias has posted 2
> questions and has replyed to a couple of posts in the last five days.
> Seems to spend a lot more time posting here.[/color]

That's the beauty of Ubuntu, you don't need much help. I also use XP and
will probably use Vista.

Alias[color=blue]
>
> "Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:OZgYSVvbHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> We know that Mike, but come on he's a moron.
>>
>> All he knows how to do is attack and he can't take what he dishes ;)
>>
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:emOdYuubHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Alias
>>>
>>> I was very much on topic.. :)
>>>
>>> Mike Hall
>>> answering on a fully working, Vista powered PC
>>> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

Adam Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:55:29 -0600, "Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Just looked at the Ubuntu newsgroup our freind Alias has posted 2 questions
>> and has replyed to a couple of posts in the last five days.
>> Seems to spend a lot more time posting here.[/color]
>
> He's probably lonesome, never that much activity in Linux groups. ;-)
>
>[/color]

Nope, not too much assistance is needed after you get the hang of it.

Alias

MICHAEL wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.cl> wrote in message
> news:OmqPVawbHHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> MICHAEL wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> That's it? That's all you've got, pudden-head?
>>>
>>> You're almost entertaining.
>>>
>>> Surely, you can do better than that. -Michael[/color]
>>
>> John Candy's usual next step is to call you a pedophile.[/color]
>
> Bless his heart... we should either have sympathy for the fool,
> or, hopefully, if he ever emerges from his hole, someone beats
> him senseless. Perhaps, someone already beat the sense
> out of him.
>
>
> -Michael[/color]

The shame of it is he really knows a lot but prefers to just insult
people in an arrogant way instead of helping them.

Alias

"Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23QvhXivbHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> And Enterprise.. one basic type with 5 levels of features..
>
> There are approximately 100 variations on the Linux theme..
>
> [url]http://distrowatch.com/[/url]
>
> Ubuntu is Linux, but not all of Linux is Ubuntu..[/color]

Most distros of Linux these days use a common set of applications and one of
a short list of desktop GUIs. They are mostly all dead simple to install for
a modestly adept user. They look and behave very similarly, in fact Vista
appears to have patterned after recent Linux releases in appearance anyway.

The issue is compatible, available software, Linux doesn't have it.

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>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.cl> wrote in message
> news:OrPa5cvbHHA.260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Tinman wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Ok4thHubHHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> I guess Ubuntu is one particular type of Linux OS. What are its
>>>> advantages
>>>> over others?
>>>
>>> This, IMO, is the fundamental reason Linux has not, and likely will not,
>>> take over desktops in force.
>>>
>>> There is no Linux. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of distros (if not
>>> thousands by now).
>>>
>>> Until the day Linux means *one thing* universally, and that day may
>>> never come, it will not garner more than the
>>> hobbyist/tinkerer/programmer crowd.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Not true. Ubuntu is getting famous for being user friendly and easy to
>> install.
>>
>> Speaking of "one thing", does Basic, Premium, Business, Ultimate, etc.
>> ring a bell?
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>
>
>[/color]

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.cl> wrote in message
news:Os$p4bybHHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> MICHAEL wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.cl> wrote in message
>> news:OmqPVawbHHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>> That's it? That's all you've got, pudden-head?
>>>>
>>>> You're almost entertaining.
>>>>
>>>> Surely, you can do better than that. -Michael
>>>
>>> John Candy's usual next step is to call you a pedophile.[/color]
>>
>> Bless his heart... we should either have sympathy for the fool,
>> or, hopefully, if he ever emerges from his hole, someone beats
>> him senseless. Perhaps, someone already beat the sense
>> out of him.
>>
>>
>> -Michael[/color]
>
> The shame of it is he really knows a lot but prefers to just insult people in an arrogant way
> instead of helping them.[/color]

I noticed that. He obviously has some serious issues,
that more than likely go back to his childhood.

Oh well. If he wishes to waste his talent, so be it.
It's his call.


-Michael

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:17:02 -0700, "Lee" <not@chance.ever> wrote:
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>
>"Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
>news:%23QvhXivbHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> And Enterprise.. one basic type with 5 levels of features..
>>
>> There are approximately 100 variations on the Linux theme..
>>
>> [url]http://distrowatch.com/[/url]
>>
>> Ubuntu is Linux, but not all of Linux is Ubuntu..[/color]
>
>Most distros of Linux these days use a common set of applications and one of
>a short list of desktop GUIs. They are mostly all dead simple to install for
>a modestly adept user. They look and behave very similarly, in fact Vista
>appears to have patterned after recent Linux releases in appearance anyway.
>
>The issue is compatible, available software, Linux doesn't have it.[/color]

Never did or will either. ;-)

Linux is for geeks that love to fiddle with their computer settings
and never actually use it for anything worthwhile.

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:39:43 +0200, Stephan Rose
<kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote:
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>Adam Albright wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:55:29 -0600, "Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Just looked at the Ubuntu newsgroup our freind Alias has posted 2
>>>questions and has replyed to a couple of posts in the last five days.
>>>Seems to spend a lot more time posting here.[/color]
>>
>> He's probably lonesome, never that much activity in Linux groups. ;-)[/color]
>
>It is indeed difficult to answer support questions for an OS which for the
>most part just works. =)[/color]

Wonderful, the OS works, but there's little worthwhile software that
runs on it. You were trying to make a point? Better luck next time.

Adam Albright wrote:
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> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:17:02 -0700, "Lee" <not@chance.ever> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>news:%23QvhXivbHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> And Enterprise.. one basic type with 5 levels of features..
>>>
>>> There are approximately 100 variations on the Linux theme..
>>>
>>> [url]http://distrowatch.com/[/url]
>>>
>>> Ubuntu is Linux, but not all of Linux is Ubuntu..[/color]
>>
>>Most distros of Linux these days use a common set of applications and one
>>of a short list of desktop GUIs. They are mostly all dead simple to
>>install for a modestly adept user. They look and behave very similarly, in
>>fact Vista appears to have patterned after recent Linux releases in
>>appearance anyway.
>>
>>The issue is compatible, available software, Linux doesn't have it.[/color]
>
> Never did or will either. ;-)
>
> Linux is for geeks that love to fiddle with their computer settings
> and never actually use it for anything worthwhile.[/color]

Hmm, I wasn't aware all the work I do isn't worthwhile.

Thanks for pointing that out to me! ;)

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
君のこと忘れたときがないから

Adam Albright wrote:
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> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:39:43 +0200, Stephan Rose
> <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Adam Albright wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:55:29 -0600, "Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just looked at the Ubuntu newsgroup our freind Alias has posted 2
>>>>questions and has replyed to a couple of posts in the last five days.
>>>>Seems to spend a lot more time posting here.
>>>
>>> He's probably lonesome, never that much activity in Linux groups. ;-)[/color]
>>
>>It is indeed difficult to answer support questions for an OS which for the
>>most part just works. =)[/color]
>
> Wonderful, the OS works, but there's little worthwhile software that
> runs on it. You were trying to make a point? Better luck next time.[/color]

Beyond a game or two, it meets all my needs software wise.

And as far as the games go, my PS2 could use some dusting off.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
君のこと忘れたときがないから

Adam Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:39:43 +0200, Stephan Rose
> <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:55:29 -0600, "Darkelldar" <atcompsys@shaw.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just looked at the Ubuntu newsgroup our freind Alias has posted 2
>>>> questions and has replyed to a couple of posts in the last five days.
>>>> Seems to spend a lot more time posting here.
>>> He's probably lonesome, never that much activity in Linux groups. ;-)[/color]
>> It is indeed difficult to answer support questions for an OS which for the
>> most part just works. =)[/color]
>
> Wonderful, the OS works, but there's little worthwhile software that
> runs on it. You were trying to make a point? Better luck next time.
>
>[/color]

What software do you want that doesn't run on Linux or doesn't have an
acceptable substitute?

Alias

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:06:21 +0200, Stephan Rose
<kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote:

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>> Wonderful, the OS works, but there's little worthwhile software that
>> runs on it. You were trying to make a point? Better luck next time.[/color]
>
>Beyond a game or two, it meets all my needs software wise.[/color]

Talk about avoiding the question...

Adam Albright wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:06:21 +0200, Stephan Rose
> <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote:
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Wonderful, the OS works, but there's little worthwhile software that
>>> runs on it. You were trying to make a point? Better luck next time.[/color]
>>
>>Beyond a game or two, it meets all my needs software wise.[/color]
>
> Talk about avoiding the question...[/color]

Talk about snipping out the line that answered the question...

This discussion is over.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
君のこと忘れたときがないから

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:%23n9$4lubHHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> What's the best way to look for a local builder? How do they advertise
> themselves?[/color]

Usually in the yellow pages, word of mouth, and Newspaper ads.
[color=blue]
>
> What kind of price can you expect from them compared to the big companies?[/color]

Pretty close to what you get from the big box sellers, usually a tad more.
One thing you have to realize is the big box sellers buy components by the
truckload whereas I purchase by the case. So as a result they get a much
better price break. The other thing to consider is a good local builder will
use quality components which will cost more than the barely spec stuff that
the large builders use. For instance all of my machines use true 350 watt
power supplies for small form factor systems and true 450 + watt power
supplies for full sized systems.

Another thing a good local builder will do is take the time to assemble and
test each system, and usually take a few extra steps to ensure that the
system is as reliable and clean as possible.

My suggestion in finding a good local builder is to ask around and look at
ads. For the most part stay away from the person that is working out of
their homes, unless you know them and know they will be around. Purchase
from those that have invested in a store, they will be more likely to be
around for the term of your warranty.
[color=blue]
>
> Do they "build" laptops as well as desktops?[/color]

They can to a point. Intel has spurred a common components program for
laptops, so they can be manufactured by local builders. But my confidence in
the quality of these components is lacking, and until I see otherwise I will
just resell quality laptops instead. I sell the Lenovo 3000 line and the
Thinkpad lines of notebooks. I havn't found anything that is built as well
as these laptops from any other manufacturer, unless you are talking
specialty laptops. They always work, and they never come back. What I offer
to the customer if they buy from me is 2 years of antivirus support, I back
up the manufacturers warranty by doing everything possible in-house, but if
it needs to be shipped in for repair I also foot the shipping. I also do the
full initial setup of the product and make the product backup DVD's or CD's.

What it all boils down too is you pay more for a local build but a local
builder will give you more bang for your buck, and you can rest well that
you have good support for the product you purchased.[color=blue]
>
> I'm ready for this. I truly hate the big companies. For them to sell to
> an
> average user computers that simply do not have enough RAM and maybe enough
> computer speed to work properly, is just wrong. And their tech support is
> hell on earth.[/color]

I agree totally, thats why you should buy local. The other bonus is your
money stays local and you support your economy.
[color=blue]
>
> I'd be curious to know how Dell changed itself from the great company it
> was
> in the late '90s to what it is today.[/color]

They answer to stockholders now, instead of their customers.

Dan[color=blue]
>
>
> "Dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:e310ZukbHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Dell has been doing this for ages, look at all the XP computers that came
>> out with Celeron processors and 128mb of ram. To be truthfull all the big
>> box manufacturers do this. Thats why its better to shop local and buy
>> from[/color]
> a[color=green]
>> local builder with a good reputation. They will help those that dont know
>> how to pick out a good system that will not be painfully slow and
>> underpowered. That and you get to help your local economy, its a win win.
>>
>> Dan
>> "Gordon Keenan" <gordon@tasystems.org(removeme)> wrote in message
>> news:E46E012E-B40C-4BD9-BF35-57F8402B899C@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I have (over the last three weeks) had the opportunity to work at[/color][/color]
> different[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >places that have recently purchased new Dell Computer Equipment. A few
>> >small business's and some home users, so it's been a combinations of[/color][/color]
> Vista[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >Business and Home Edition.
>> >
>> > My experiences have left me extremely cold on what Dell considers to be[/color][/color]
> an[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > acceptable platform for the Vista operating system.
>> >
>> > All of the equipment is way under powered for decent use, though I have[/color][/color]
> to[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > say it would be fine for Windows XP.
>> >
>> > 512MB RAM - it's crippling the system!
>> > On-board video - Aero - zero chance of that happening for these users[/color][/color]
> and[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > certainly no WOW factor!
>> >
>> > The thing is, the people buying the equipment don't know any better but
>> > they all said the same thing... Why is the new computer running so
>> > slow?
>> > Surely it should be really fast with the new vista on it?
>> >
>> > As I run Vista Business on a dual-core Athlon 5600+ with 2GB of ram,
>> > and[/color][/color]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > find it sluggish at times, all I could do is tell them that in future,
>> > they should ask advice before just buying something cheap.
>> >
>> > As for Dell, a company that is trying to tell people that it KNOWS
>> > about
>> > computers, they should hang their heads in shame.. but the good thing
>> > is
>> > that independent computer builders now have a chance of making good
>> > spec
>> > pc's that will work better for the end user!
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Are there no MVPs to enforce some minimal rules of behavior in this group?
Certain people have repeatedy talked about their desire to commit physical
violence on other posters. That is totally out of line and ought to stop.



MICHAEL wrote:[color=blue]
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.cl> wrote in message
> news:OmqPVawbHHA.4888@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > MICHAEL wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > That's it? That's all you've got, pudden-head?
> > >
> > > You're almost entertaining.
> > >
> > > Surely, you can do better than that. -Michael[/color]
> >
> > John Candy's usual next step is to call you a pedophile.[/color]
>
> Bless his heart... we should either have sympathy for the fool,
> or, hopefully, if he ever emerges from his hole, someone beats
> him senseless. Perhaps, someone already beat the sense
> out of him.
>
>
> -Michael[/color]