But what about the Licensing issues I see in all the other posts. I have
Windows XP Pro install disks, but when I use these in Virtual PC, they only
work for 4 days because they are not licensed properly. I am still using the
Win XP in my other computer.

Thanks for the optimitic reply tho...

"Jerry" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Try reformatting your hard drive and installing WinXP from scratch. Works
> fine. Go up to the manufacturers website, and download all the system
> drivers for XP for your computer first, and save them along with any other
> data on an external hard drive, so you can install/reinstall the stuff after
> you bring up XP. I have done this a lot for customers, and it works fine.
>
> K[/color]

"Jethro" <Jethro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote[color=blue]
> But what about the Licensing issues I see in all the other posts. I have
> Windows XP Pro install disks, but when I use these in Virtual PC, they
> only
> work for 4 days because they are not licensed properly. I am still using
> the
> Win XP in my other computer.
>
> Thanks for the optimitic reply tho...[/color]
[color=blue]
> "Jerry" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Try reformatting your hard drive and installing WinXP from scratch.
>> Works
>> fine. Go up to the manufacturers website, and download all the system
>> drivers for XP for your computer first, and save them along with any
>> other
>> data on an external hard drive, so you can install/reinstall the stuff
>> after
>> you bring up XP. I have done this a lot for customers, and it works
>> fine.[/color][/color]

You need a separate license to run XP in a virtual machine. It can't be run
that way and installed elsewhere at the same time.

I'm not trying to get into an argument here, but you bought an OEM computer
that you, yourself, describe as a cheapo, and it came with an OEM license
for Vista. I don't see how you can say MS has you over a barrel on
licensing. An OEM license is good for use on the first system it's
installed on. Of course you got a good price, right? That's why you bought
what you did, but then it has it's limitations.

If you want XP on it, then buy another copy for it.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Hi Jerry I am new at this stuff first to let you know that I did a back up,
bought a cd from ms xp sp2 cd will not let me install over vista. tells me
that this version is older than what is on my comp yes it is vista do not
know how to reformat. I have been on the internet all day looking for ways to
fix this problem. I know I just paid 3.55 for the cd but I thought it would
do it for me and oh well.
maybe you can help.
thanks
--
JoAnne


"Jerry" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Try reformatting your hard drive and installing WinXP from scratch. Works
> fine. Go up to the manufacturers website, and download all the system
> drivers for XP for your computer first, and save them along with any other
> data on an external hard drive, so you can install/reinstall the stuff after
> you bring up XP. I have done this a lot for customers, and it works fine.
>
> K
>
> "Jethro" <Jethro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9D92BD79-0138-44C3-AD95-D9967E8F3F93@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I am in the same situation. I recently purchased a new "cheapo" laptop for
> > my son which came pre-installed with Vista. My home computer is over 4
> > years
> > old (Pentium 4 2GHZ with 1GB RAM). The new laptop is Pentium M Celeron
> > 1.6GHZ with 1GB RAM. Initially after windows login I compare the memory
> > of
> > each system, the old desktop with Win XP Home is at 219MB, while the new
> > laptop with Vista Home Basic is over 400MB. When my son tries to play the
> > game Sims 2, the old desktop is running with the game at 50% CPU and
> > memory
> > for the game is around 200MB, on the new laptop the game is at 100% CPU
> > and
> > memory for the game is around 400MB. The game manufacturer says it does
> > not
> > officially support Vista yet, but running the game in Win XP compatibility
> > mode doesn't work either. I feel that this laptop will be of marginal
> > performance under Windows Vista, but might actually be a good performer
> > under
> > Win XP. I came to this forum to investigate downgrading to XP. I was
> > surprised at how many posts there are with the same question. It sounds
> > like
> > Microsoft really has us over a barrel with all the licencing bull****. It
> > also does not surprise me that they expect me to go out and buy another
> > Windows license to downgrade and essentially leave my new Windows Vista
> > license unused! These cheap PC manufactures should have never started
> > using
> > an OS before the PC hardware was capable of running it. Microsoft should
> > have never created such a bloated OS that uses up most of todays PC
> > resources, but that is typical MS. They have done the same thing with
> > every
> > new OS that they created, always staying one step ahead of the hardware
> > MFGs.
> > It does end up pushing the hardware MFGs to make higher performance PC's,
> > but on the other hand it keeps the price of new PC's high as well. I have
> > often wonderered how my new PC running XP would have operated under Win
> > 2000,
> > but Microsoft closes that option as well by not providing support for
> > older
> > OS's. Oh well, I guess that is life (at least Microsoft's version of it)
> > I
> > might as well get used to it. Maybe I will try Virtual PC, but I don't
> > have
> > much hope for that either since the laptop does not have much resource
> > left
> > over after Vista boots up.
> >
> > Frustrated Hillbilly.[/color]
>
>[/color]

Boot from the XP disk.

You can't be running Vista and format the disk it's sitting on.



"Joannie" <honda4jo@msn.com> wrote in message
news:A19843A6-D968-4906-AB78-A8BFBD0BB31B@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Hi Jerry I am new at this stuff first to let you know that I did a back
> up,
> bought a cd from ms xp sp2 cd will not let me install over vista. tells
> me
> that this version is older than what is on my comp yes it is vista do not
> know how to reformat. I have been on the internet all day looking for ways
> to
> fix this problem. I know I just paid 3.55 for the cd but I thought it
> would
> do it for me and oh well.
> maybe you can help.
> thanks
> --
> JoAnne
>
>
> "Jerry" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Try reformatting your hard drive and installing WinXP from scratch.
>> Works
>> fine. Go up to the manufacturers website, and download all the system
>> drivers for XP for your computer first, and save them along with any
>> other
>> data on an external hard drive, so you can install/reinstall the stuff
>> after
>> you bring up XP. I have done this a lot for customers, and it works
>> fine.
>>
>> K
>>
>> "Jethro" <Jethro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9D92BD79-0138-44C3-AD95-D9967E8F3F93@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I am in the same situation. I recently purchased a new "cheapo" laptop
>> >for
>> > my son which came pre-installed with Vista. My home computer is over 4
>> > years
>> > old (Pentium 4 2GHZ with 1GB RAM). The new laptop is Pentium M Celeron
>> > 1.6GHZ with 1GB RAM. Initially after windows login I compare the
>> > memory
>> > of
>> > each system, the old desktop with Win XP Home is at 219MB, while the
>> > new
>> > laptop with Vista Home Basic is over 400MB. When my son tries to play
>> > the
>> > game Sims 2, the old desktop is running with the game at 50% CPU and
>> > memory
>> > for the game is around 200MB, on the new laptop the game is at 100% CPU
>> > and
>> > memory for the game is around 400MB. The game manufacturer says it
>> > does
>> > not
>> > officially support Vista yet, but running the game in Win XP
>> > compatibility
>> > mode doesn't work either. I feel that this laptop will be of marginal
>> > performance under Windows Vista, but might actually be a good performer
>> > under
>> > Win XP. I came to this forum to investigate downgrading to XP. I was
>> > surprised at how many posts there are with the same question. It
>> > sounds
>> > like
>> > Microsoft really has us over a barrel with all the licencing bull****.
>> > It
>> > also does not surprise me that they expect me to go out and buy another
>> > Windows license to downgrade and essentially leave my new Windows Vista
>> > license unused! These cheap PC manufactures should have never started
>> > using
>> > an OS before the PC hardware was capable of running it. Microsoft
>> > should
>> > have never created such a bloated OS that uses up most of todays PC
>> > resources, but that is typical MS. They have done the same thing with
>> > every
>> > new OS that they created, always staying one step ahead of the hardware
>> > MFGs.
>> > It does end up pushing the hardware MFGs to make higher performance
>> > PC's,
>> > but on the other hand it keeps the price of new PC's high as well. I
>> > have
>> > often wonderered how my new PC running XP would have operated under Win
>> > 2000,
>> > but Microsoft closes that option as well by not providing support for
>> > older
>> > OS's. Oh well, I guess that is life (at least Microsoft's version of
>> > it)
>> > I
>> > might as well get used to it. Maybe I will try Virtual PC, but I don't
>> > have
>> > much hope for that either since the laptop does not have much resource
>> > left
>> > over after Vista boots up.
>> >
>> > Frustrated Hillbilly.[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]