I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore points.
Anyone know of a work around for this?

Hi,

In XP, stop system restore from monitoring the drive that Vista is installed
on.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]

"McBob" <McBob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u$X4$4XaHHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore points.
>Anyone know of a work around for this?[/color]

Rick,

That does not stop XP's volsnap.sys from deleting
Vista's restore points. It's not really about System Restore.
System Restore makes use of volsnap.sys. But XP's
System Restore isn't the culprit. Volsnap.sys is where
the incompatibility is.

The user needs a third party boot manager that hides
Vista's partition. Or, if he's using Ultimate, BitLocker
will protect Vista's partition.

This has all been discussed to death in this newsgroup.
Do a search of "volsnap.sys".


-Michael

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message news:OcGGAFYaHHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> In XP, stop system restore from monitoring the drive that Vista is installed
> on.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>
> "McBob" <McBob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:u$X4$4XaHHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore points.
>>Anyone know of a work around for this?[/color]
>[/color]

McBob wrote:[color=blue]
> I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore
> points. Anyone know of a work around for this?[/color]
============================
A search turned up the following
links...

Prevent System Restore Points
Being Lost When Dual Booting
With Windows XP
[url]http://tinyurl.com/3xhbgy[/url]

System Restore points and other
recovery features in Windows Vista
are affected when you dual-boot with
Windows XP
[url]http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html[/url]


--
John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
[url]http://tinyurl.com/aczzp[/url]

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

You're correct. I don't know what I was thinking. The proper fix is to hide
the Vista volume from XP completely (generally through the use of a third
party product).

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:uDfsZJYaHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Rick,
>
> That does not stop XP's volsnap.sys from deleting
> Vista's restore points. It's not really about System Restore.
> System Restore makes use of volsnap.sys. But XP's
> System Restore isn't the culprit. Volsnap.sys is where
> the incompatibility is.
>
> The user needs a third party boot manager that hides
> Vista's partition. Or, if he's using Ultimate, BitLocker
> will protect Vista's partition.
>
> This has all been discussed to death in this newsgroup.
> Do a search of "volsnap.sys".
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OcGGAFYaHHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hi,
>>
>> In XP, stop system restore from monitoring the drive that Vista is
>> installed on.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>
>> "McBob" <McBob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:u$X4$4XaHHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore points.
>>>Anyone know of a work around for this?[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

this solution with tweakUI seems nice but something tells me that it wont
work.. lol

has anyone confirmed it? I have it installed and deselected the drive with
vista on it..
lets see....

[url]http://vistasupport.mvps.org/prevent_system_restore_points_being_lost_when_dual_booting_with_windows_xp.htm[/url]
Workaround 2
Another option, which is simpler if you don't want to go down the Bitlocker
Encryption route is to boot into Windows XP and, using a freeware utility
called TweakUi hide the Windows Vista partition from Windows XP. Because XP
cannot see the Windows Vista partition it cannot remove the system restore
points.

The end result of both these workarounds is that you can move from Windows
Vista to Windows XP and back again without losing the precious System
restore points.




"John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
news:OT2ldPYaHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> McBob wrote:[color=green]
>> I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore
>> points. Anyone know of a work around for this?[/color]
> ============================
> A search turned up the following
> links...
>
> Prevent System Restore Points
> Being Lost When Dual Booting
> With Windows XP
> [url]http://tinyurl.com/3xhbgy[/url]
>
> System Restore points and other
> recovery features in Windows Vista
> are affected when you dual-boot with
> Windows XP
> [url]http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html[/url]
>
>
> --
> John Inzer
> MS Picture It! -
> Digital Image MVP
>
> Digital Image
> Highlights and FAQs
> [url]http://tinyurl.com/aczzp[/url]
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
>
>
>[/color]

TweakUi:
Does not work for me. It does hide my Vista drive from XP apparently. Don't
see it in 'my computer'. It took 2 attempts and reboots to get the Vista
(C:) drive hidden from XP (D:) I then went to Vista and created a restore
point. Went to XP and back to Vista and the restore point was gone. I then
created another restore point in Vista... rebooted back to Vista and restore
point was there... and created another restore point. Now I had 2. I booted
back to XP and back to Vista and restore points were gone.
Too bad.
My C: and D: drives are physical. I installed Vista on top of XP on the C:
drive. Then I installed another hard drive and put XP on it. I used
'VistaProBoot' to create the dual boot menu.



"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:O$SzYIaaHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> this solution with tweakUI seems nice but something tells me that it wont
> work.. lol
>
> has anyone confirmed it? I have it installed and deselected the drive with
> vista on it..
> lets see....
>
> [url]http://vistasupport.mvps.org/prevent_system_restore_points_being_lost_when_dual_booting_with_windows_xp.htm[/url]
> Workaround 2
> Another option, which is simpler if you don't want to go down the
> Bitlocker Encryption route is to boot into Windows XP and, using a
> freeware utility called TweakUi hide the Windows Vista partition from
> Windows XP. Because XP cannot see the Windows Vista partition it cannot
> remove the system restore points.
>
> The end result of both these workarounds is that you can move from Windows
> Vista to Windows XP and back again without losing the precious System
> restore points.
>
>
>
>
> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
> news:OT2ldPYaHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> McBob wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore
>>> points. Anyone know of a work around for this?[/color]
>> ============================
>> A search turned up the following
>> links...
>>
>> Prevent System Restore Points
>> Being Lost When Dual Booting
>> With Windows XP
>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/3xhbgy[/url]
>>
>> System Restore points and other
>> recovery features in Windows Vista
>> are affected when you dual-boot with
>> Windows XP
>> [url]http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html[/url]
>>
>>
>> --
>> John Inzer
>> MS Picture It! -
>> Digital Image MVP
>>
>> Digital Image
>> Highlights and FAQs
>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/aczzp[/url]
>>
>> Notice
>> This is not tech support
>> I am a volunteer
>>
>> Solutions that work for
>> me may not work for you
>>
>> Proceed at your own risk
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

thats what I thought.. lol

that tweak UI only hides the drive from explorer.. it does not truly hide
the partition...

thats why I said I doubted that tweakUI would work... and to think that page
was written
by an MVP... shame... shame....


"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
news:ORztFZbaHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> TweakUi:
> Does not work for me. It does hide my Vista drive from XP apparently.
> Don't see it in 'my computer'. It took 2 attempts and reboots to get the
> Vista (C:) drive hidden from XP (D:) I then went to Vista and created a
> restore point. Went to XP and back to Vista and the restore point was
> gone. I then created another restore point in Vista... rebooted back to
> Vista and restore point was there... and created another restore point.
> Now I had 2. I booted back to XP and back to Vista and restore points were
> gone.
> Too bad.
> My C: and D: drives are physical. I installed Vista on top of XP on the C:
> drive. Then I installed another hard drive and put XP on it. I used
> 'VistaProBoot' to create the dual boot menu.
>
>
>
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:O$SzYIaaHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> this solution with tweakUI seems nice but something tells me that it wont
>> work.. lol
>>
>> has anyone confirmed it? I have it installed and deselected the drive
>> with vista on it..
>> lets see....
>>
>> [url]http://vistasupport.mvps.org/prevent_system_restore_points_being_lost_when_dual_booting_with_windows_xp.htm[/url]
>> Workaround 2
>> Another option, which is simpler if you don't want to go down the
>> Bitlocker Encryption route is to boot into Windows XP and, using a
>> freeware utility called TweakUi hide the Windows Vista partition from
>> Windows XP. Because XP cannot see the Windows Vista partition it cannot
>> remove the system restore points.
>>
>> The end result of both these workarounds is that you can move from
>> Windows Vista to Windows XP and back again without losing the precious
>> System restore points.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
>> news:OT2ldPYaHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> McBob wrote:
>>>> I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore
>>>> points. Anyone know of a work around for this?
>>> ============================
>>> A search turned up the following
>>> links...
>>>
>>> Prevent System Restore Points
>>> Being Lost When Dual Booting
>>> With Windows XP
>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/3xhbgy[/url]
>>>
>>> System Restore points and other
>>> recovery features in Windows Vista
>>> are affected when you dual-boot with
>>> Windows XP
>>> [url]http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Inzer
>>> MS Picture It! -
>>> Digital Image MVP
>>>
>>> Digital Image
>>> Highlights and FAQs
>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/aczzp[/url]
>>>
>>> Notice
>>> This is not tech support
>>> I am a volunteer
>>>
>>> Solutions that work for
>>> me may not work for you
>>>
>>> Proceed at your own risk
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

I solved the problem by deleting the XP partition. :-)
After putting Vista through its paces for three weeks, I'm
confident that I no longer need XP.

Gary VanderMolen

"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message news:ORztFZbaHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> TweakUi:
> Does not work for me. It does hide my Vista drive from XP apparently. Don't
> see it in 'my computer'. It took 2 attempts and reboots to get the Vista
> (C:) drive hidden from XP (D:) I then went to Vista and created a restore
> point. Went to XP and back to Vista and the restore point was gone. I then
> created another restore point in Vista... rebooted back to Vista and restore
> point was there... and created another restore point. Now I had 2. I booted
> back to XP and back to Vista and restore points were gone.
> Too bad.
> My C: and D: drives are physical. I installed Vista on top of XP on the C:
> drive. Then I installed another hard drive and put XP on it. I used
> 'VistaProBoot' to create the dual boot menu.[/color]

My C: Vista drive 'now' does not show up in XP My Computer (as mentioned
below) but is still shown in disk management. (from within XP)
In another post "Red bar for D drive" someone suggested to unassign a drive
letter in "Computer Management>Drive Manager" to hide the annoying red bar.
I don't see how to do that but it got me wondering if there might be some
trick to perform from XP disk management. From XP I turned off indexing of
the Vista drive but it could not access attributes of various Vista C: files
with "boot" in the filename. Now I notice that indexing is OFF for my Vista
drive when viewing this setting from within Vista. I don't remember if I
intentionally turned it off or if it's now off because I turned it off from
within XP.
So... I'm just throwing this out there to spark better ideas than I have.
I'm a bit nervous about trail and erroring with the disk management
settings.


"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
news:ORztFZbaHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> TweakUi:
> Does not work for me. It does hide my Vista drive from XP apparently.
> Don't see it in 'my computer'. It took 2 attempts and reboots to get the
> Vista (C:) drive hidden from XP (D:) I then went to Vista and created a
> restore point. Went to XP and back to Vista and the restore point was
> gone. I then created another restore point in Vista... rebooted back to
> Vista and restore point was there... and created another restore point.
> Now I had 2. I booted back to XP and back to Vista and restore points were
> gone.
> Too bad.
> My C: and D: drives are physical. I installed Vista on top of XP on the C:
> drive. Then I installed another hard drive and put XP on it. I used
> 'VistaProBoot' to create the dual boot menu.
>
>
>
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:O$SzYIaaHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> this solution with tweakUI seems nice but something tells me that it wont
>> work.. lol
>>
>> has anyone confirmed it? I have it installed and deselected the drive
>> with vista on it..
>> lets see....
>>
>> [url]http://vistasupport.mvps.org/prevent_system_restore_points_being_lost_when_dual_booting_with_windows_xp.htm[/url]
>> Workaround 2
>> Another option, which is simpler if you don't want to go down the
>> Bitlocker Encryption route is to boot into Windows XP and, using a
>> freeware utility called TweakUi hide the Windows Vista partition from
>> Windows XP. Because XP cannot see the Windows Vista partition it cannot
>> remove the system restore points.
>>
>> The end result of both these workarounds is that you can move from
>> Windows Vista to Windows XP and back again without losing the precious
>> System restore points.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
>> news:OT2ldPYaHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> McBob wrote:
>>>> I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore
>>>> points. Anyone know of a work around for this?
>>> ============================
>>> A search turned up the following
>>> links...
>>>
>>> Prevent System Restore Points
>>> Being Lost When Dual Booting
>>> With Windows XP
>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/3xhbgy[/url]
>>>
>>> System Restore points and other
>>> recovery features in Windows Vista
>>> are affected when you dual-boot with
>>> Windows XP
>>> [url]http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Inzer
>>> MS Picture It! -
>>> Digital Image MVP
>>>
>>> Digital Image
>>> Highlights and FAQs
>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/aczzp[/url]
>>>
>>> Notice
>>> This is not tech support
>>> I am a volunteer
>>>
>>> Solutions that work for
>>> me may not work for you
>>>
>>> Proceed at your own risk
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

To unassign a drive letter in Disk Management (Administrative Tools>Computer
Management, Highlight Disk Management),
right click on the drive you wish to change, click on Change Drive Letter
and Paths..., click on Remove).


"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
news:ehRwstjaHHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My C: Vista drive 'now' does not show up in XP My Computer (as mentioned
> below) but is still shown in disk management. (from within XP)
> In another post "Red bar for D drive" someone suggested to unassign a
> drive letter in "Computer Management>Drive Manager" to hide the annoying
> red bar. I don't see how to do that but it got me wondering if there might
> be some trick to perform from XP disk management. From XP I turned off
> indexing of the Vista drive but it could not access attributes of various
> Vista C: files with "boot" in the filename. Now I notice that indexing is
> OFF for my Vista drive when viewing this setting from within Vista. I
> don't remember if I intentionally turned it off or if it's now off because
> I turned it off from within XP.
> So... I'm just throwing this out there to spark better ideas than I have.
> I'm a bit nervous about trail and erroring with the disk management
> settings.
>
>
> "DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ORztFZbaHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> TweakUi:
>> Does not work for me. It does hide my Vista drive from XP apparently.
>> Don't see it in 'my computer'. It took 2 attempts and reboots to get the
>> Vista (C:) drive hidden from XP (D:) I then went to Vista and created a
>> restore point. Went to XP and back to Vista and the restore point was
>> gone. I then created another restore point in Vista... rebooted back to
>> Vista and restore point was there... and created another restore point.
>> Now I had 2. I booted back to XP and back to Vista and restore points
>> were gone.
>> Too bad.
>> My C: and D: drives are physical. I installed Vista on top of XP on the
>> C: drive. Then I installed another hard drive and put XP on it. I used
>> 'VistaProBoot' to create the dual boot menu.
>>
>>
>>
>> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
>> news:O$SzYIaaHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> this solution with tweakUI seems nice but something tells me that it
>>> wont work.. lol
>>>
>>> has anyone confirmed it? I have it installed and deselected the drive
>>> with vista on it..
>>> lets see....
>>>
>>> [url]http://vistasupport.mvps.org/prevent_system_restore_points_being_lost_when_dual_booting_with_windows_xp.htm[/url]
>>> Workaround 2
>>> Another option, which is simpler if you don't want to go down the
>>> Bitlocker Encryption route is to boot into Windows XP and, using a
>>> freeware utility called TweakUi hide the Windows Vista partition from
>>> Windows XP. Because XP cannot see the Windows Vista partition it cannot
>>> remove the system restore points.
>>>
>>> The end result of both these workarounds is that you can move from
>>> Windows Vista to Windows XP and back again without losing the precious
>>> System restore points.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
>>> news:OT2ldPYaHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> McBob wrote:
>>>>> I dual boot with XP and Vista, but this wipes out Vista restore
>>>>> points. Anyone know of a work around for this?
>>>> ============================
>>>> A search turned up the following
>>>> links...
>>>>
>>>> Prevent System Restore Points
>>>> Being Lost When Dual Booting
>>>> With Windows XP
>>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/3xhbgy[/url]
>>>>
>>>> System Restore points and other
>>>> recovery features in Windows Vista
>>>> are affected when you dual-boot with
>>>> Windows XP
>>>> [url]http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html[/url]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Inzer
>>>> MS Picture It! -
>>>> Digital Image MVP
>>>>
>>>> Digital Image
>>>> Highlights and FAQs
>>>> [url]http://tinyurl.com/aczzp[/url]
>>>>
>>>> Notice
>>>> This is not tech support
>>>> I am a volunteer
>>>>
>>>> Solutions that work for
>>>> me may not work for you
>>>>
>>>> Proceed at your own risk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

In message <#Zrj1#YaHHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> "Rick Rogers"
<rick@mvps.org> wrote:
[color=blue]
>You're correct. I don't know what I was thinking. The proper fix is to hide
>the Vista volume from XP completely (generally through the use of a third
>party product).[/color]

Or BitLocker, if you use Vista Ultimate, and only need shadow copies on
your boot drive.
--
Insert something clever here.