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Old 03-16-2007, 11:30 AM
Sven Berg
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Vista in VMware Server

Does Vista run as guest in VMware Server? Are there known issues?
Thanks, Sven

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Old 03-16-2007, 11:30 AM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

Sven Berg wrote:
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> Does Vista run as guest in VMware Server? Are there known issues?
> Thanks, Sven[/color]

Microsoft in it's never ending quest to maximize profits at the expense of
its users has made it so that only Fista Ultimate is allowed to run in a
virtual machine. Whether this is a technical restriction or simply an EULA
restriction, I don't know?

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Old 03-16-2007, 11:30 AM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

It runs well as long as you download the latest version of VMware server...

it was updated to fix some problems with vista...

Your HOST pc must have at least 1 gig or ram, because vista as a client will
need
512 mb

No problems at all.. everything works.. oh.. of course you will not have
glass support...
but that is obvious...

(I read that there IS a way to do have 3d acceleration but I have not tried
it)

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> Does Vista run as guest in VMware Server? Are there known issues?
> Thanks, Sven
>[/color]


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Old 03-16-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

Where did you get this gibberish? Completely untrue.

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"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Microsoft in it's never ending quest to maximize profits at the expense of
> its users has made it so that only Fista Ultimate is allowed to run in a
> virtual machine. Whether this is a technical restriction or simply an EULA
> restriction, I don't know?
>[/color]
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:15 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[color=blue]
> Microsoft in it's never ending quest to maximize profits at the expense of
> its users has made it so that only Fista Ultimate is allowed to run in a
> virtual machine.[/color]

This simply isn't true...


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Old 03-16-2007, 01:00 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

I looked a few days ago and I believe it's officially listed as
"experimental" support which in VMWarese means "we think it should work but
why don't you try it and let us know if you have any problems".

Give it a try and post back.

"Sven Berg" <wiesel69@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Does Vista run as guest in VMware Server? Are there known issues?
> Thanks, Sven
>[/color]


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Old 03-16-2007, 01:15 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

Mark Rae wrote:[color=blue]
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:1174073240.424919@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
>
>[color=green]
>> Microsoft in it's never ending quest to maximize profits at the expense of
>> its users has made it so that only Fista Ultimate is allowed to run in a
>> virtual machine.[/color]
>
> This simply isn't true...
>
>[/color]

The Vista EULA does in fact indicate that you cannot run Vista Home
Basic and Home Premium in a VM. It states:
[color=blue]
> USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the software installed on the
> licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system[/color]

See page 11, points number 4 under Vista Home Basic and Vista Home
Premium of the license agreement here:

<http://download.microsoft.com/documents/useterms/Windows%20Vista_Home%20Premium_English_d16c019b-fa71-4fc9-a51d-a0621bddb153.pdf>

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Old 03-16-2007, 01:15 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

it works fine... it says experimental.. but the only thing that is REALLY
experimental
is vista itself!!! LOL

vista is stupid


"LaRoux" <hlx@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:e0UjKwAaHHA.5080@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I looked a few days ago and I believe it's officially listed as
>"experimental" support which in VMWarese means "we think it should work but
>why don't you try it and let us know if you have any problems".
>
> Give it a try and post back.
>
> "Sven Berg" <wiesel69@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:1174072671.700955.95470@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> Does Vista run as guest in VMware Server? Are there known issues?
>> Thanks, Sven
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]


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Old 03-16-2007, 01:30 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

"Kevin Young" <ky-nntp@sent.com> wrote in message
news:%23WoaY6AaHHA.5080@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Microsoft in it's never ending quest to maximize profits at the expense
>>> of
>>> its users has made it so that only Fista Ultimate is allowed to run in a
>>> virtual machine.[/color]
>>
>> This simply isn't true...[/color]
>
> The Vista EULA does in fact indicate that you cannot run Vista Home Basic
> and Home Premium in a VM. It states:[/color]

But that's not what NoStop said... Vista Ultimate is not the only version of
Vista permitted to run in a virtual environment - Vista Business and Vista
Enterprise are also permitted:

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx[/url]
Click Product Specifications...


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Old 03-16-2007, 04:45 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

Mark Rae wrote:
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> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:1174073240.424919@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
>
>[color=green]
>> Microsoft in it's never ending quest to maximize profits at the expense
>> of its users has made it so that only Fista Ultimate is allowed to run in
>> a virtual machine.[/color]
>
> This simply isn't true...[/color]

And look how MickeyMouse intentionally lies to consumers. Go here to see
MickeyMouse's comparisons of the different Fista offerings ...

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.mspx[/url]

No mention of running a version in a vm. One would have to read each EULA
for each product to find out which ones are permitted to run in a vm. If
nothing else, my raising this issue will make Windoze users investigate
beyond Microsoft's LIES.

Cheers.


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Old 03-16-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

In message <1174091612.418729@netadmin1.interbaun.net> NoStop
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>No mention of running a version in a vm. One would have to read each EULA
>for each product to find out which ones are permitted to run in a vm. If
>nothing else, my raising this issue will make Windoze users investigate
>beyond Microsoft's LIES.[/color]

Sorry, what lies?
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

On 16 Mrz., 23:03, Kevin Young <ky-n...@sent.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Mark Rae wrote:[/color]
[color=blue]
> The Vista EULA does in fact indicate that you cannot run Vista Home
> Basic and Home Premium in a VM. It states:
>[color=green]
> > USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the software installed on the
> > licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system[/color]
>
> See page 11, points number 4 under Vista Home Basic and Vista Home
> Premium of the license agreement here:
>
> <http://download.microsoft.com/documents/useterms/Windows%20Vista_Home...>[/color]

Thank you, Mark and the other guys in this thread. Taking your info
together, I will update my VMserver, install Ultimate, google for
tricks to get glass run, and finally post my results in this group.

Off-topic remark to NoStop's comment concerning MVPs: I dont feel
bothered by MVPs at all, but by postings with a blaming or cynical
undertone. This may happen with postings of MVPs or of other users.
Fortunately, there are also MVPs as well as other users with kind and
competent answers. Thanks again, guys. Sven





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Old 03-17-2007, 01:16 AM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server


"Sven Berg" <wiesel69@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:1174101696.124072.236110@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> On 16 Mrz., 23:03, Kevin Young <ky-n...@sent.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> Mark Rae wrote:[/color]
>[color=green]
>> The Vista EULA does in fact indicate that you cannot run Vista Home
>> Basic and Home Premium in a VM. It states:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the software
>> > installed on the
>> > licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware
>> > system[/color]
>>
>> See page 11, points number 4 under Vista Home Basic and Vista Home
>> Premium of the license agreement here:
>>[/color][/color]

MS Virtual PC will install in Business and up.
Rick


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Old 03-17-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

On 17 Mrz., 02:10, "Rick" <nos...@safety.net> wrote:
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> MS Virtual PC will install in Business and up.[/color]

Good to know, though my question concerned Vista as a guest, not as a
host.
VPC for Vista as a guest is no option at all becase of its lack of
USB.
Regards, Sven

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Old 03-18-2007, 06:00 PM
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Re: Vista in VMware Server

DevilsPGD wrote:
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> In message <1174091612.418729@netadmin1.interbaun.net> NoStop
> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>No mention of running a version in a vm. One would have to read each EULA
>>for each product to find out which ones are permitted to run in a vm. If
>>nothing else, my raising this issue will make Windoze users investigate
>>beyond Microsoft's LIES.[/color]
>
> Sorry, what lies?[/color]

It's known as lies by omission. Much like the way GW Bush operates.

Cheers.

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