My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
that are compatible with Vista?

Thanks for any tips.
Charlie
******************************************************
Charliec

Hi Charlie,

I am using Acronis True Image Home 10.0 since I installed my Vista x64 and
it's very good.

I could restore my Vista completely last time by booting to resuce cd and
restore my previous backup.

It got a lot of nice features, see them here :

[url]http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/[/url]

Cheers,

Safouh
"Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
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> My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
> not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
> that are compatible with Vista?
>
> Thanks for any tips.
> Charlie
> ******************************************************
> Charliec[/color]

Acronis True Image Home works well

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"Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
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> My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
> not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
> that are compatible with Vista?
>
> Thanks for any tips.
> Charlie
> ******************************************************
> Charliec[/color]

Thanks all for the replies. I will take a look.
Charlie
[color=blue]
>On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:20:30 -0500, "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:[/color]
[color=blue]
>Acronis True Image Home works well[/color]
******************************************************
Charliec

Just so I understand, are you saying that you:

1. Had loaded programs, pictures, documents, Vista updates, etc.
2. At some point had to do a restore.
3. Booted with your Restore CD to restore your PC to it's original state.
4. Then restored with your latest Acronis backup.

And didn't have to reinstall any software, etc.????

Cheers, Dave

"Safouh" <Safouh@mail.com> wrote in message
news:AA1FC301-5E14-4922-AD37-13AC3EADC9B8@microsoft.com...
Hi Charlie,

I am using Acronis True Image Home 10.0 since I installed my Vista x64 and
it's very good.

I could restore my Vista completely last time by booting to resuce cd and
restore my previous backup.

It got a lot of nice features, see them here :

[url]http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/[/url]

Cheers,

Safouh
"Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
news:27j3v21n5lrj6r3gmaeqkgu02v7es05jfo@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
> not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
> that are compatible with Vista?
>
> Thanks for any tips.
> Charlie
> ******************************************************
> Charliec[/color]

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:09:09 -0800, Charliec
<charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
>not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
>that are compatible with Vista?
>
>Thanks for any tips.
>Charlie
>******************************************************
>Charliec[/color]

I'm partial to BounceBack which comes as free software with several
external hard drives (like Seagate's externals) as a freebe that's
throw in. You can upgrade to a more robost version for a small premium
or buy it directly too.

The topic of "backup" often is misunderstood and spans a fairly broad
range I've broken down into three main categories, which isn't meant
to be all inclusive, but does cover the majority of reasons people
"backup".

1. Image burning --- This is where a hard drive partition is
"mirrored" where you create a "mirror image" or a byte by byte
copy. This is useful for restoring your system if Windows some day
refuses to start up or some similar disaster that can save your
bacon.

2. Burning to disc --- Similar to above and may employ the same method
but you take it a step further where you make copies of all your
important data files, depending on much "stuff" you have typically
burned to a bunch of CDs or DVD's, sometimes to another partition.

These two methods while effective can get grow tedious especially if
you need to set up elborate rules of what to "mirror" and you got
better things to do with your time then feed your computer a stack of
DVD's to burn backbacks up on a regular basis. Because of this reason
the typical user over time grows lax and just doesn't backup as often
or as completely as you should. Then is sorry afterwards. ;-)

3. File duplication --- This is where you make physical copies of
files and then store them typically offsite, or at least on another
hard drive out of harm's way. Frequently to some removable hard
drive that's run as a external or if you have a lot of internal
drives to one or more of those.

This method assumes you have LOTS of free disk space to put the
duplicates on. It is my preferred method since I have gobs and gobs of
storage, over 3 TB total and that is a "t" as in terabyte or trillions
of bytes. You can still use this method of your needs are far less.
Better, it can be as simple as pushing a button on some external hard
drives (like some Seagate Models*) and the backup software will do the
rest while you're busy doing something else.

The reason I like BounceBack is rather then pushing a button, another
option is to have it do what's called a compare. In just minutes it
will scan your entire system regardless how complex it is, all your
drives, one at a time for folders you tell it you want to "backup" and
report back file by file what if anything has changed since you last
backed up, what you may wish to purge (delete) and what as yet hasn't
been backed up.

This method forces you to actually look at your data and make more
intelligence decisions on how and what you are backing up. If
disaster should strike, the name says what it does. You quickly bounce
back and restore your system from the backups with it copying things
back to how they were.

* I haven't tried the automatic "push button to backup" in Vista since
I much prefer the compare list method so don't know if the driver that
controls that feature still works in Vista, it did work fine in XP the
few times I tried it.

Hi Dave,

Actually I installed my Vista x64 with all standard applications then I took
full backup using Acronis , after few days after I installed Norton Internet
Security 2007 my PC is F**cked up ! therefore I restored my pc using the
rescue media which I created by Acronis (it gives access to your harddisk
from the boot CD with basic Acronis application interface)

It took 20 minutes, then the PC been restored to the status as it was when I
did my full backup ! amazing right :-)

Cheers,

Safouh
"DoubleDAZ" <ddetert@removethis.cox.net> wrote in message
news:u7DegepYHHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Just so I understand, are you saying that you:
>
> 1. Had loaded programs, pictures, documents, Vista updates, etc.
> 2. At some point had to do a restore.
> 3. Booted with your Restore CD to restore your PC to it's original state.
> 4. Then restored with your latest Acronis backup.
>
> And didn't have to reinstall any software, etc.????
>
> Cheers, Dave
>
> "Safouh" <Safouh@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:AA1FC301-5E14-4922-AD37-13AC3EADC9B8@microsoft.com...
> Hi Charlie,
>
> I am using Acronis True Image Home 10.0 since I installed my Vista x64 and
> it's very good.
>
> I could restore my Vista completely last time by booting to resuce cd and
> restore my previous backup.
>
> It got a lot of nice features, see them here :
>
> [url]http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/[/url]
>
> Cheers,
>
> Safouh
> "Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
> news:27j3v21n5lrj6r3gmaeqkgu02v7es05jfo@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
>> not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
>> that are compatible with Vista?
>>
>> Thanks for any tips.
>> Charlie
>> ******************************************************
>> Charliec[/color]
>[/color]

Thanks, I'm going to have to check into that.

Cheers, Dave

"Safouh" <Safouh@mail.com> wrote in message
news:%23rLg7jpYHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Hi Dave,

Actually I installed my Vista x64 with all standard applications then I took
full backup using Acronis , after few days after I installed Norton Internet
Security 2007 my PC is F**cked up ! therefore I restored my pc using the
rescue media which I created by Acronis (it gives access to your harddisk
from the boot CD with basic Acronis application interface)

It took 20 minutes, then the PC been restored to the status as it was when I
did my full backup ! amazing right :-)

Cheers,

Safouh
"DoubleDAZ" <ddetert@removethis.cox.net> wrote in message
news:u7DegepYHHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Just so I understand, are you saying that you:
>
> 1. Had loaded programs, pictures, documents, Vista updates, etc.
> 2. At some point had to do a restore.
> 3. Booted with your Restore CD to restore your PC to it's original state.
> 4. Then restored with your latest Acronis backup.
>
> And didn't have to reinstall any software, etc.????
>
> Cheers, Dave[/color]

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:13:13 -0600, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:09:09 -0800, Charliec
><charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
>>not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
>>that are compatible with Vista?
>>
>>Thanks for any tips.
>>Charlie
>>******************************************************
>>Charliec[/color]
>
>I'm partial to BounceBack which comes as free software with several
>external hard drives (like Seagate's externals) as a freebe that's
>throw in. You can upgrade to a more robost version for a small premium
>or buy it directly too.
>
>The topic of "backup" often is misunderstood and spans a fairly broad
>range I've broken down into three main categories, which isn't meant
>to be all inclusive, but does cover the majority of reasons people
>"backup".
>
>1. Image burning --- This is where a hard drive partition is
> "mirrored" where you create a "mirror image" or a byte by byte
> copy. This is useful for restoring your system if Windows some day
> refuses to start up or some similar disaster that can save your
> bacon.
>
>2. Burning to disc --- Similar to above and may employ the same method
> but you take it a step further where you make copies of all your
> important data files, depending on much "stuff" you have typically
> burned to a bunch of CDs or DVD's, sometimes to another partition.
>
>These two methods while effective can get grow tedious especially if
>you need to set up elborate rules of what to "mirror" and you got
>better things to do with your time then feed your computer a stack of
>DVD's to burn backbacks up on a regular basis. Because of this reason
>the typical user over time grows lax and just doesn't backup as often
>or as completely as you should. Then is sorry afterwards. ;-)
>
>3. File duplication --- This is where you make physical copies of
> files and then store them typically offsite, or at least on another
> hard drive out of harm's way. Frequently to some removable hard
> drive that's run as a external or if you have a lot of internal
> drives to one or more of those.
>
>This method assumes you have LOTS of free disk space to put the
>duplicates on. It is my preferred method since I have gobs and gobs of
>storage, over 3 TB total and that is a "t" as in terabyte or trillions
>of bytes. You can still use this method of your needs are far less.
>Better, it can be as simple as pushing a button on some external hard
>drives (like some Seagate Models*) and the backup software will do the
>rest while you're busy doing something else.
>
>The reason I like BounceBack is rather then pushing a button, another
>option is to have it do what's called a compare. In just minutes it
>will scan your entire system regardless how complex it is, all your
>drives, one at a time for folders you tell it you want to "backup" and
>report back file by file what if anything has changed since you last
>backed up, what you may wish to purge (delete) and what as yet hasn't
>been backed up.
>
>This method forces you to actually look at your data and make more
>intelligence decisions on how and what you are backing up. If
>disaster should strike, the name says what it does. You quickly bounce
>back and restore your system from the backups with it copying things
>back to how they were.
>
>* I haven't tried the automatic "push button to backup" in Vista since
>I much prefer the compare list method so don't know if the driver that
>controls that feature still works in Vista, it did work fine in XP the
>few times I tried it.
>[/color]
I use a similar system, but with Acronis which I have used to do
incremental and full images for years now. Saved my ass so many times
I lost count and gets me out of any disaster. Tried the Vista version
was better than the original NT backup but not by much, would never
bet a production machine on it anyway

Bounceback looks fine to me also but I have never used it and with
backup / image stuff its totally essential for me not just a "peace of
mind" backup system, so its a trust thing really. Sounds like your
recovery gets used regularly also, can't learn stuff if you are
frightened of breaking stuff can you?

8-)

Jonah

[color=blue]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>[/color]

I have Vista Ultimate and it came with a Backup utility that does everything
you say Acronis TrueImage does! Why should I buy Acronis TrueImage 10 Vista
Ultimate does have a backup utility that creates Images of the entire hard
drive?

Gene


"jonah" <jonah123******.com> wrote in message
news:ifr3v2dftihclpcsq47alv3lrank0lgmsf@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:13:13 -0600, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:09:09 -0800, Charliec
>><charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
>>>not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
>>>that are compatible with Vista?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any tips.
>>>Charlie
>>>******************************************************
>>>Charliec[/color]
>>
>>I'm partial to BounceBack which comes as free software with several
>>external hard drives (like Seagate's externals) as a freebe that's
>>throw in. You can upgrade to a more robost version for a small premium
>>or buy it directly too.
>>
>>The topic of "backup" often is misunderstood and spans a fairly broad
>>range I've broken down into three main categories, which isn't meant
>>to be all inclusive, but does cover the majority of reasons people
>>"backup".
>>
>>1. Image burning --- This is where a hard drive partition is
>> "mirrored" where you create a "mirror image" or a byte by byte
>> copy. This is useful for restoring your system if Windows some day
>> refuses to start up or some similar disaster that can save your
>> bacon.
>>
>>2. Burning to disc --- Similar to above and may employ the same method
>> but you take it a step further where you make copies of all your
>> important data files, depending on much "stuff" you have typically
>> burned to a bunch of CDs or DVD's, sometimes to another partition.
>>
>>These two methods while effective can get grow tedious especially if
>>you need to set up elborate rules of what to "mirror" and you got
>>better things to do with your time then feed your computer a stack of
>>DVD's to burn backbacks up on a regular basis. Because of this reason
>>the typical user over time grows lax and just doesn't backup as often
>>or as completely as you should. Then is sorry afterwards. ;-)
>>
>>3. File duplication --- This is where you make physical copies of
>> files and then store them typically offsite, or at least on another
>> hard drive out of harm's way. Frequently to some removable hard
>> drive that's run as a external or if you have a lot of internal
>> drives to one or more of those.
>>
>>This method assumes you have LOTS of free disk space to put the
>>duplicates on. It is my preferred method since I have gobs and gobs of
>>storage, over 3 TB total and that is a "t" as in terabyte or trillions
>>of bytes. You can still use this method of your needs are far less.
>>Better, it can be as simple as pushing a button on some external hard
>>drives (like some Seagate Models*) and the backup software will do the
>>rest while you're busy doing something else.
>>
>>The reason I like BounceBack is rather then pushing a button, another
>>option is to have it do what's called a compare. In just minutes it
>>will scan your entire system regardless how complex it is, all your
>>drives, one at a time for folders you tell it you want to "backup" and
>>report back file by file what if anything has changed since you last
>>backed up, what you may wish to purge (delete) and what as yet hasn't
>>been backed up.
>>
>>This method forces you to actually look at your data and make more
>>intelligence decisions on how and what you are backing up. If
>>disaster should strike, the name says what it does. You quickly bounce
>>back and restore your system from the backups with it copying things
>>back to how they were.
>>
>>* I haven't tried the automatic "push button to backup" in Vista since
>>I much prefer the compare list method so don't know if the driver that
>>controls that feature still works in Vista, it did work fine in XP the
>>few times I tried it.
>>[/color]
> I use a similar system, but with Acronis which I have used to do
> incremental and full images for years now. Saved my ass so many times
> I lost count and gets me out of any disaster. Tried the Vista version
> was better than the original NT backup but not by much, would never
> bet a production machine on it anyway
>
> Bounceback looks fine to me also but I have never used it and with
> backup / image stuff its totally essential for me not just a "peace of
> mind" backup system, so its a trust thing really. Sounds like your
> recovery gets used regularly also, can't learn stuff if you are
> frightened of breaking stuff can you?
>
> 8-)
>
> Jonah
>
>[color=green]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

--
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Will it backup the System Files -- e.g., the Pagefile and MFT?

DSH

"Eugene Pinero" <pineroe@uwec.edu> wrote in message
news:e4HuKmuYHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[color=blue]
>I have Vista Ultimate and it came with a Backup utility that does
>everything you say Acronis TrueImage does! Why should I buy Acronis
>TrueImage 10 Vista Ultimate does have a backup utility that creates Images
>of the entire hard drive?
>
> Gene[/color]

It is not needed. Most backup apps will specifically exclude backup and
hibernation files (there is no point to a backup) and also Disk Files (there
are 10 others as well as the MFT) as this will really screw up the disk on a
restore.
"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
news:eheVeFvYHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Will it backup the System Files -- e.g., the Pagefile and MFT?
>
> DSH
>
> "Eugene Pinero" <pineroe@uwec.edu> wrote in message
> news:e4HuKmuYHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>[color=green]
>>I have Vista Ultimate and it came with a Backup utility that does
>>everything you say Acronis TrueImage does! Why should I buy Acronis
>>TrueImage 10 Vista Ultimate does have a backup utility that creates Images
>>of the entire hard drive?
>>
>> Gene[/color]
>
>[/color]

Norton 360 has a nice backup utility build-in too, plus it saves in regular
format so you don't need it to restore files if needed... You just copy and
paste.

Dan
Sudbury, Canada

Charlie,

Silly question, maybe, but have you tried Vista's built in backup? Not
implying in any way shape or form that it's as near robust as any of the
solutions recommended by OP's... just asking...

Lang

"Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
news:27j3v21n5lrj6r3gmaeqkgu02v7es05jfo@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
> not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
> that are compatible with Vista?
>
> Thanks for any tips.
> Charlie
> ******************************************************
> Charliec[/color]

No, I haven't, I plan to take a look at it.
Thanks
Charlie
[color=blue]
>On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:50:39 -0500, "Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy********.com> wrote:[/color]
[color=blue]
>Charlie,
>
>Silly question, maybe, but have you tried Vista's built in backup? Not
>implying in any way shape or form that it's as near robust as any of the
>solutions recommended by OP's... just asking...
>
>Lang
>
>"Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
>news:27j3v21n5lrj6r3gmaeqkgu02v7es05jfo@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> My current backup software (BackUp MyPC from Sonic Solutions/Roxio) is
>> not compatible with Vista. Are there good backup programs out there
>> that are compatible with Vista?
>>
>> Thanks for any tips.
>> Charlie
>> ******************************************************
>> Charliec[/color][/color]
******************************************************
Charliec