Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?

Vista is a pile of dog doo doo.....

the only interesting thing its got is the 3d desktop... but there are no
applications yet
that take advantage of that. On the otherhand with vista you open yourself
to
a huge list of problems... and if you join that with bad design concepts...

Vista is a flop.... get it only if you are buying a new computer with some
OS preinstalled..
and the pc you are getting is a dual core with at least 2 gigs of ram.

"Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
>[/color]

Can you read?

Search Vista in Google and make up your own mind. Then you will be able to
filter out the Cra* from both sides of the fence.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
>[/color]

I have it running on new hardware with plenty of RAM and I love it.


"Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
>[/color]

vista works for some and does not for others, usually because of their own failings.
you can probably expect problems with 3rd party programs that have YET to be updated to visa as well as drivers for your devices that also have yet to be upgraded for vista.

run the upgrade advisor and then do some checking on your own for programs and drivers.
every computer is different.

you should have at least 20gb of free disk space, video with 256mb of mem and 1gb of system memory.

to assist with successful install it is best to disable uninstall any extra devices you do not need during the install.
like extra hard drives, serial/parallel ports, usb ports and for sure turn off over clocking.

[email]mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com[/email]

"Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:uCAH9mNYHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?

On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:57:47 +0000, Shaun Dickinson wrote:
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> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?[/color]

I expect if you ask ten people you will get at least 15 different views.
I've seen several other consultants advise to wait for at least SP1 - I
concur.

Vista has some decent improvements, but overall it's not a "killer app".
I've had more problems than successes . . . I would advise most people to
just wait until they need a new computer.

Brandon

"Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
>[/color]

I like it.

I have it on 4 machines in my house (Home Premium - laptop, video rendering
box, wife, and daughter). Here's what I like (YMMV) :

The Start Menu is cleaner and does occupy your entire screen with the levels
and layers.

I like Flip 3d. I keep alot of windows open and am constantly flipping to
other windows. It's great to see the contents before switching.

If you type the name of a program (Word for example) in the search box on
the start menu, the program launches. No need to click beyond at all if you
don't want to.

It seems faster to me than XP, but then most of my machines have 1-2 GB of
RAM.

I have not had the driver issues some have reported. Maybe I'm lucky. I
also did quite a bit of research with my PCs hardware manufacturers prior to
upgrading. Of course I do know my hardware inside and out as I build my own
machines. I only had 2 issues on 4 machines and I knew them going in (ATI
TV tuner problem - found a work around for it and HP All-In-One scanning
didn't work from wireless, had to attach a USB cable to it to get it to
scan).

The networking seems to make more sense to me for some reason. It seems no
matter what window or dialog I'm in I can access the network without a bunch
of convoluted steps or drive mappings. That might be a perception thing or
something I'm doing wrong, but I'm dumb and happy with it.

I haven't had a BSOD or a program fail on it. My NeroVision used to crash
alot on XP. Hasn't crashed yet on Vista. Even Pinnacle Studio (notorious
for crashing in early releases) seems to work smoothly.

I don't seem to get lock-ups.

I like OneCare (yeah I know, flame away). I was using it on XP and it
integrates well with Vista.

Office Home and Business - works great on Vista and you can install it on 3
machines.

Windows MovieMaker seems better. Allows DV capture.

It runs all my daughter's games (she especially loves Barbie Beach Vacation
and Arthur).

My hobby is video editing and production. Vista seems to work great with
just about all my software (except Adobe EncoreDVD, but I don't use that
much anyway). Needless to say, I put alot of strain on my PCs. Vista
renders video quickly and doesn't complain in 2 GB ram. I have 2 machines
with AMD X2s in them and 2 with single-core AMD-64s. All run fine on it. I
have machines with ATI graphics (card and integrated, the integrated is a
200M that only has 64 MB shared and Flip 3-d still runs fine on it) and
NVidia 6100s. No problem with Aero on any of them. My Pinnacle MovieBox
captures video very well on it.

Nothing really earth-shattering. I wouldn't call it a killer app. I just
know I like using it better. Maybe that will change after the newness wears
off.

P.S. My wife is somewhat change resistant when it comes to software and
even she thinks it's easier to use. My 5 year old just likes all the pretty
colors on her machine, sigh.

Art



"Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
>[/color]

>The Start Menu is cleaner and does occupy your entire screen with the[color=blue]
>levels and layers.[/color]

thats exactly what I absolutly HATE about the new start menu and I will
PROVE that its
a stupid idea!

await new posts...


"Art" <dont@email.me> wrote in message
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>I like it.
>
> I have it on 4 machines in my house (Home Premium - laptop, video
> rendering box, wife, and daughter). Here's what I like (YMMV) :
>
> The Start Menu is cleaner and does occupy your entire screen with the
> levels and layers.
>
> I like Flip 3d. I keep alot of windows open and am constantly flipping to
> other windows. It's great to see the contents before switching.
>
> If you type the name of a program (Word for example) in the search box on
> the start menu, the program launches. No need to click beyond at all if
> you don't want to.
>
> It seems faster to me than XP, but then most of my machines have 1-2 GB of
> RAM.
>
> I have not had the driver issues some have reported. Maybe I'm lucky. I
> also did quite a bit of research with my PCs hardware manufacturers prior
> to upgrading. Of course I do know my hardware inside and out as I build
> my own machines. I only had 2 issues on 4 machines and I knew them going
> in (ATI TV tuner problem - found a work around for it and HP All-In-One
> scanning didn't work from wireless, had to attach a USB cable to it to get
> it to scan).
>
> The networking seems to make more sense to me for some reason. It seems
> no matter what window or dialog I'm in I can access the network without a
> bunch of convoluted steps or drive mappings. That might be a perception
> thing or something I'm doing wrong, but I'm dumb and happy with it.
>
> I haven't had a BSOD or a program fail on it. My NeroVision used to crash
> alot on XP. Hasn't crashed yet on Vista. Even Pinnacle Studio (notorious
> for crashing in early releases) seems to work smoothly.
>
> I don't seem to get lock-ups.
>
> I like OneCare (yeah I know, flame away). I was using it on XP and it
> integrates well with Vista.
>
> Office Home and Business - works great on Vista and you can install it on
> 3 machines.
>
> Windows MovieMaker seems better. Allows DV capture.
>
> It runs all my daughter's games (she especially loves Barbie Beach
> Vacation and Arthur).
>
> My hobby is video editing and production. Vista seems to work great with
> just about all my software (except Adobe EncoreDVD, but I don't use that
> much anyway). Needless to say, I put alot of strain on my PCs. Vista
> renders video quickly and doesn't complain in 2 GB ram. I have 2 machines
> with AMD X2s in them and 2 with single-core AMD-64s. All run fine on it.
> I have machines with ATI graphics (card and integrated, the integrated is
> a 200M that only has 64 MB shared and Flip 3-d still runs fine on it) and
> NVidia 6100s. No problem with Aero on any of them. My Pinnacle MovieBox
> captures video very well on it.
>
> Nothing really earth-shattering. I wouldn't call it a killer app. I just
> know I like using it better. Maybe that will change after the newness
> wears off.
>
> P.S. My wife is somewhat change resistant when it comes to software and
> even she thinks it's easier to use. My 5 year old just likes all the
> pretty colors on her machine, sigh.
>
> Art
>
>
>
> "Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:uCAH9mNYHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
>>[/color]
>[/color]

"Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
>
>[/color]


I gave Vista a try...and actually prefer XP!

If you have all new and very high-end hardware though Vista would probably
be OK...
but I didn't really find anything special about it.

If you are getting a new machine and it comes with Vista...I'm sure it would
be fine...
but if you are currently running XP...I'd say to just keep things as they
are and not upgrade

Visioneer is supposed to have Vista-compatible drivers for its scanners in
May, 2007. When I have a scanner driver that works with Vista, I'll install
Ultimate (which I have), and will try to form a more careful opinion at that
point.

Stan Nelson
Dallas.

Use plain text for newsgroups you fool.


"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
news:OwYJw7NYHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
vista works for some and does not for others, usually because of their own
failings.
you can probably expect problems with 3rd party programs that have YET to
be updated to visa as well as drivers for your devices that also have yet to
be upgraded for vista.

run the upgrade advisor and then do some checking on your own for programs
and drivers.
every computer is different.

you should have at least 20gb of free disk space, video with 256mb of mem
and 1gb of system memory.

to assist with successful install it is best to disable uninstall any extra
devices you do not need during the install.
like extra hard drives, serial/parallel ports, usb ports and for sure turn
off over clocking.

[email]mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com[/email]

I've found that that TIP loads much faster, and it hasn't frozen on me yet (I've found when I was using Windows XP that it or something causes it to freeze for minutes).

There's a lot more hard drive activity when the computer loads up, but once Vista is up, it isn't that "slow" as I would have expected.

So far Vista has been fine for me, but I've only been using it since the weekend...

kirk jim wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>>The Start Menu is cleaner and does occupy your entire screen with the
>>levels and layers.[/color]
>
> thats exactly what I absolutly HATE about the new start menu and I will
> PROVE that its
> a stupid idea![/color]

I had the suspicion it would do that when I saw a screenshot of the initial
start menu when you just click the start button.

Personally I don't like that idea either. I want my start menu to be as
small and compact as possible.

Even in XP I always set it to use the classic mode from win9X and I love the
fact that it remembers the apps I actually use therefore keeping the menu
as small and compact as possible!

XP simply just makes sense...
Vista simply just doesn't...

--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
君のこと忘れた時がないから

"Stephan Rose" <kermos@somrek.net> wrote in message
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> I had the suspicion it would do that when I saw a screenshot of the
> initial
> start menu when you just click the start button.
> Personally I don't like that idea either. I want my start menu to be as
> small and compact as possible.[/color]

??? I think Art meant to use doesN'T (is that right or wrong Art?). The
Vista start menu is smaller then XP.