Richard Urban wrote:
[color=blue]
> Guess you aren't very good at your operating system of choice or you would
> be spending your time helping out others who use the same.
>
> Instead you waste your time here![/color]

Nice try at an insult there. =)

See the thing is though, it is hard helping people with an operating system
where things just simply work. =)

I actually do post to the Beryl forums occasionally with helpful stuff
seeing how I am using the latest beta version.

I also do post to a linux newsgroup and answer newbie questions as they
arise..

As far as wasting time here? Naw, I consider this newsgroup to be a pretty
decent entertainment value and therefore it's not a waste of time.

Plus I've had the occasional interesting discussion in here with a couple of
people and I'm always open for more interesting discussions.

And hey! If you can explain to me, just for starters:

- How Vista not supporting over half my systems and older peripherals...
- How Vista not supporting some software I need (note that I have viable
linux alternatives hence the problem does not apply to linux)...
- How frequent activation phonecalls because I just updated my drivers
again...
- How never knowing if maybe my drivers were revoked today because a 15yr
old found a way to hack them and copy a blue ray dvd and news of it are
plastered all over the net with a detailed how-to...

How any of those things are beneficial to me and make me more productive...

Well then maybe I may even give Vista a try!!! =)

--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
君のこと忘れた時がないから

There is only one way to setup virtual machines. You load the operating
system as if you are installing it on a new box. You ARE creating a new
computer, albeit a virtual computer. Validation, and all that goes with it,
applies.

No other way that I know of.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Cymbal Man Freq." <Don't [email]Bother@ForgedPostsAnonymous.unor[/email]g> wrote in
message news:OFsLPeaYHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Brandon" <bsmith@presentationsdirect.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:O2A7UCOYHHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | Vista has some decent improvements, but overall it's not a "killer app".
> | I've had more problems than successes . . . I would advise most people
> to
> | just wait until they need a new computer.
> |
> | Brandon
>
> I need a new computer ASAP, but I'm trying to gauge how successful the
> Vista
> launch is before I decide whether I want XP or Vista, and what versions of
> each.
> From what I can see, Vista is a failure for what I intended (burning 8
> hour
> videotapes to Blu-Ray), but that could change in a couple of years. But
> also
> what hardware I'd need to be Vista compatible without getting Vista
> preloaded
> (even the preloaded systems don't have all of the drivers!). So, if I pick
> an
> E6600 chip and a MOBO with 3 PCI slots in it and 2 PCIe slots for video
> and USB
> & Firewire (really hard to find firewire included on mobos); then I have
> to
> figure out what video & capture cards I need & soundcard I need special
> ordered
> (M-Audio most likely); how many hard drives I need; and the power supply
> needed
> (what a touchy subject!). I replace all of my lightbulbs to low wattage
> units to
> save on electricity and these new computer power supplies are gonna
> overload my
> BackUPS during a blackout!
>
> What is the best way to set up Virtual machines, still seing new answers
> as of
> today here, horribly unimpressive.
>
>[/color]

Nice! You just admitted to being a ***TROLLLLLLLLLLLL***

But we all knew that.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
news:gZOdnZbwLZRQ0W3YnZ2dnUVZ8t2snZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
> Richard Urban wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Guess you aren't very good at your operating system of choice or you
>> would
>> be spending your time helping out others who use the same.
>>
>> Instead you waste your time here![/color]
>
> Nice try at an insult there. =)
>
> See the thing is though, it is hard helping people with an operating
> system
> where things just simply work. =)
>
> I actually do post to the Beryl forums occasionally with helpful stuff
> seeing how I am using the latest beta version.
>
> I also do post to a linux newsgroup and answer newbie questions as they
> arise..
>
> As far as wasting time here? Naw, I consider this newsgroup to be a pretty
> decent entertainment value and therefore it's not a waste of time.
>
> Plus I've had the occasional interesting discussion in here with a couple
> of
> people and I'm always open for more interesting discussions.
>
> And hey! If you can explain to me, just for starters:
>
> - How Vista not supporting over half my systems and older peripherals...
> - How Vista not supporting some software I need (note that I have viable
> linux alternatives hence the problem does not apply to linux)...
> - How frequent activation phonecalls because I just updated my drivers
> again...
> - How never knowing if maybe my drivers were revoked today because a 15yr
> old found a way to hack them and copy a blue ray dvd and news of it are
> plastered all over the net with a detailed how-to...
>
> How any of those things are beneficial to me and make me more
> productive...
>
> Well then maybe I may even give Vista a try!!! =)
>
> --
> Stephan Rose
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> 君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
> 君のこと忘れた時がないから[/color]

On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:15:09 -0500, Richard Urban wrote:
[color=blue]
> Guess you aren't very good at your operating system of choice or you would
> be spending your time helping out others who use the same.
>
> Instead you waste your time here![/color]

For the comic relief, mainly. I don't spend much time here - this is the
only MS group I monitor; about 15 Linux groups; and yes, I do help there.

On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:15:16 -0500, Richard Urban wrote:
[color=blue]
> Guess you aren't very good at your operating system of choice or you would
> be spending your time helping out others who use the same.
>
> Instead you waste your time here![/color]

For the comic relief mainly.

Richard Urban wrote:
[color=blue]
> Nice! You just admitted to being a ***TROLLLLLLLLLLLL***[/color]

Actually I have almost 10 computers all running XP...but since only one of
them is capable of running Vista (per system requirements)...None will ever
see it. =)

--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
君のこと忘れた時がないから

"Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
news:gZOdnZbwLZRQ0W3YnZ2dnUVZ8t2snZ2d@giganews.com...
[color=blue]
> - How Vista not supporting over half my systems and older peripherals...[/color]

I doubt that. As well, there is plenty linux doesn't support.
[color=blue]
> - How Vista not supporting some software I need (note that I have viable
> linux alternatives hence the problem does not apply to linux)...[/color]

Good for you. The entire world doesn't have "viable linux alternatives".
It sound like you are not in the position to use a NEW OS. Nothing wrong
with that.
[color=blue]
> - How frequent activation phonecalls because I just updated my drivers
> again...[/color]

What? That makes no sense.
[color=blue]
> - How never knowing if maybe my drivers were revoked today because a 15yr
> old found a way to hack them and copy a blue ray dvd and news of it are
> plastered all over the net with a detailed how-to...[/color]

What? That makes no sense.

Again, It sound like you are not in the position to use a NEW OS. Nothing
wrong with that. As well, that has nothing to do with anyone else.

Justin wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
> news:gZOdnZbwLZRQ0W3YnZ2dnUVZ8t2snZ2d@giganews.com...
>[color=green]
>> - How Vista not supporting over half my systems and older peripherals...[/color]
>
> I doubt that. As well, there is plenty linux doesn't support.
>[color=green]
>> - How Vista not supporting some software I need (note that I have viable
>> linux alternatives hence the problem does not apply to linux)...[/color]
>
> Good for you. The entire world doesn't have "viable linux alternatives".
> It sound like you are not in the position to use a NEW OS. Nothing wrong
> with that.[/color]

There are more alternatives than you think. Just need to open your eyes a
little. Mine were shut too for the longest time.

At this point in time, the only thing I don't have are a few games. Would be
a big deal to hardcore gamers understandably. Not a big deal to me. That's
about the only software problem I see.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> - How frequent activation phonecalls because I just updated my drivers
>> again...[/color]
>
> What? That makes no sense.[/color]

See another thread in this very NG where a user updated his nVidia driver
and got 3 days to re-activate Windows...=)
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> - How never knowing if maybe my drivers were revoked today because a 15yr
>> old found a way to hack them and copy a blue ray dvd and news of it are
>> plastered all over the net with a detailed how-to...[/color]
>
> What? That makes no sense.[/color]

Sure it does! You do know about the driver revocation thing in Vista right?
In case any drivers leak DRM content?? =)
[color=blue]
>
> Again, It sound like you are not in the position to use a NEW OS. Nothing
> wrong with that. As well, that has nothing to do with anyone else.[/color]

Nope, I am in a position to use an efficient, working and stable OS. =)


--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
君のこと忘れた時がないから

Richard Urban wrote:
[color=blue]
> Nice! You just admitted to being a ***TROLLLLLLLLLLLL***
>[/color]

And actually, ya know what?

The original reason why I came to this NG was to educate myself on Vista
prior to buying it. I *wanted* Vista. I've been a big MS supporter for many
years. I liked every OS release so far and enjoyed using them. But I
suppose all good things do come to an end...and for me, they came to an end
with Vista.

--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
君のこと忘れた時がないから

kirk jim wrote:[color=blue]
> Vista is a pile of dog doo doo.....[/color]

Oh, OK. So that means I could light a copy of it on fire and leave it
on Bill Gate's doorstep! ;)
[color=blue]
>
> the only interesting thing its got is the 3d desktop... but there are no
> applications yet
> that take advantage of that. On the otherhand with vista you open yourself
> to
> a huge list of problems... and if you join that with bad design concepts...
>
> Vista is a flop.... get it only if you are buying a new computer with some
> OS preinstalled..
> and the pc you are getting is a dual core with at least 2 gigs of ram.[/color]

And also if you don't want to maintain control over your own
computer...or if you want to leave Bill a gift :D
[color=blue]
>
> "Shaun Dickinson" <shaundickinson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:uCAH9mNYHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
>>[/color]
>[/color]

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
[url]http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html[/url]

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"DRM is not added to anything in Vista."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

"Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
news:KrCdnR3ZDfxR0m3YnZ2dnUVZ8rOdnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
> Richard Urban wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Nice! You just admitted to being a ***TROLLLLLLLLLLLL***[/color]
>
> Actually I have almost 10 computers all running XP...but since only one of
> them is capable of running Vista (per system requirements)...None will
> ever
> see it. =)[/color]

I fail to see your point? My PPC will never see Vista either. But then
again, anything out of hardware spec has absolutely nothing to do with
Vista.

Things that make you go, Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

Justin wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
> news:KrCdnR3ZDfxR0m3YnZ2dnUVZ8rOdnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=green]
>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Nice! You just admitted to being a ***TROLLLLLLLLLLLL***[/color]
>>
>> Actually I have almost 10 computers all running XP...but since only one
>> of them is capable of running Vista (per system requirements)...None will
>> ever
>> see it. =)[/color]
>
> I fail to see your point? My PPC will never see Vista either. But then
> again, anything out of hardware spec has absolutely nothing to do with
> Vista.
>
> Things that make you go, Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm.......[/color]

The point is that it makes Vista useless.

--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
君のこと忘れた時がないから

"Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
news:WIKdnXPKkLDWzm3YnZ2dnUVZ8tzinZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
> There are more alternatives than you think. Just need to open your eyes a
> little. Mine were shut too for the longest time.[/color]

Of course there are. But that doesn't cover everyone. My company
re-evaluates linux every so often. The last time around there was no way
for our business desktops to move to linux. Not when it came to software or
hardware.

[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> - How frequent activation phonecalls because I just updated my drivers
>>> again...[/color]
>>
>> What? That makes no sense.[/color]
>
> See another thread in this very NG where a user updated his nVidia driver
> and got 3 days to re-activate Windows...=)[/color]

What does that have to do with anything? I've updated to every single
driver update from Nvidia. That never happened. Just because something
went WRONG on someone's machine, does not mean it's the norm. If even it
happened to a few people, that still doesn't mater. Nvidia obviously
screwed up and they'll fix it.

[color=blue]
> Sure it does! You do know about the driver revocation thing in Vista
> right?
> In case any drivers leak DRM content?? =)[/color]

Posted in the MS Vista beta group:

Driver Revocation does not mean the driver will stop working. Driver
revocation means the driver will no longer be trusted to play secure
content. This means that your HD Movies will stop playing if the driver is
revoked but it doesn't mean your computer will stop working. Also, Microsoft
is unlikely to revoke drivers just for fun. It is in their interest to
revoke only drivers that have a new driver released.

While we are at it, revocation of hardware is not something that is
downloaded by Windows Update, its a property of the actual Premium Content
disks themselves.

The disk contains a revocation list of any devices (including rogue hardware
players) that can not authenticate with the disk. This actually means that
all of the premium content you already own will still continue to work even
with your revoked device.
_________________

Again, what you said makes no sense. Revoked or not, you are not
inconvenienced in any way.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Again, It sound like you are not in the position to use a NEW OS.
>> Nothing
>> wrong with that. As well, that has nothing to do with anyone else.[/color]
>
> Nope, I am in a position to use an efficient, working and stable OS. =)[/color]

See, this is where you come off sounding like a pompous.... I use Vista and
I have an efficient, working and stable OS. So this round about way of
putting things isn't helping you.

Yes, Vista is useless to old machines. Wow, there's a no brainier!

W2K3 is useless to old machines.
XP is useless to old machines.
W2K is useless to old machines.
Win98 is useless to old machines.
Win95 is useless to old machines.

Linux is useless to old machines.

OSX is useless to old machines.


So then, by your logic, all OSs are useless. Nice!



"Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
news:AM-dnbN77pZSwW3YRVnysAA@giganews.com...[color=blue]
> Justin wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
>> news:KrCdnR3ZDfxR0m3YnZ2dnUVZ8rOdnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice! You just admitted to being a ***TROLLLLLLLLLLLL***
>>>
>>> Actually I have almost 10 computers all running XP...but since only one
>>> of them is capable of running Vista (per system requirements)...None
>>> will
>>> ever
>>> see it. =)[/color]
>>
>> I fail to see your point? My PPC will never see Vista either. But then
>> again, anything out of hardware spec has absolutely nothing to do with
>> Vista.
>>
>> Things that make you go, Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm.......[/color]
>
> The point is that it makes Vista useless.
>
> --
> Stephan Rose
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> 君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
> 君のこと忘れた時がないから[/color]

Justin wrote:
[color=blue]
> Yes, Vista is useless to old machines. Wow, there's a no brainier!
>
> W2K3 is useless to old machines.
> XP is useless to old machines.
> W2K is useless to old machines.
> Win98 is useless to old machines.
> Win95 is useless to old machines.
>
> Linux is useless to old machines.[/color]

Any one of my computers could run ANY one of the above.

Only *one* could run Vista.
[color=blue]
>
> OSX is useless to old machines.[/color]

OSX I can't comment on, I hear there is an x86 version now but that's about
all I know.
[color=blue]
>
>
> So then, by your logic, all OSs are useless. Nice![/color]

No, just Vista.

--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出すひなんてないのは
君のこと忘れた時がないから