Hi All,

I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.

MS Windows XP did not cater for this - as its new.....so brought out a patch
we could install.

It worked a treat.

However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is no
setting for WA Daylight Saving.

So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
required.

But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are constant
errors no matter which server is chosen.

Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync unrelated
to the time zone chosen?

I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does not
make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight Saving
line)

Any ideas???

Cheers

FG

"Flash Gortdon" <flash_gordon@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
> [...]
> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
> no setting for WA Daylight Saving.
>
> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
> required.
>
> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
> constant errors no matter which server is chosen.
>
> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
> unrelated to the time zone chosen?
>
> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does not
> make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight Saving
> line)[/color]

Is it possible that the patch correctly set the GMT offset but the
programmer didn't work the correct magic to enable the DST checkbox?

What patch did you install? There have been several that involve WA but it
looks like the most recent that Microsoft's web site calls out is KB928939:

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c6a2c8fe-abda-4051-a24f-3ec933089747&DisplayLang=en[/url]

There's also an article that describes how to use TZEDIT to manually change
the time zone settings:

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/australia/technet/timezone/Windows.aspx[/url]

Good luck...

Joe Morris

Hi Joe,

I used this patch:-

Windows-KB928939-ENU.msi

Like I said it installed OK....but the check box didn't appear...I even
rebooted to make sure but no show.

I read the KB's and they constantly state in the small print that Vista has
all of the DST dialogs included....but I think they STILL forgot WA - Au!

It shouldn't be this difficult...

But a bit surprised that no-one else from WA has had same problem with Vista
Ultimate.

Cheers

FG


"Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:iOqGh.253$Ih.0@trnddc02...[color=blue]
> "Flash Gortdon" <flash_gordon@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
>> [...]
>> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
>> no setting for WA Daylight Saving.
>>
>> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
>> required.
>>
>> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
>> constant errors no matter which server is chosen.
>>
>> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
>> unrelated to the time zone chosen?
>>
>> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does
>> not make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight
>> Saving line)[/color]
>
> Is it possible that the patch correctly set the GMT offset but the
> programmer didn't work the correct magic to enable the DST checkbox?
>
> What patch did you install? There have been several that involve WA but
> it looks like the most recent that Microsoft's web site calls out is
> KB928939:
>
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c6a2c8fe-abda-4051-a24f-3ec933089747&DisplayLang=en[/url]
>
> There's also an article that describes how to use TZEDIT to manually
> change the time zone settings:
>
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/australia/technet/timezone/Windows.aspx[/url]
>
> Good luck...
>
> Joe Morris
>[/color]

Flash

Try this:

Set your location to GMT +2.00hrs
Uninstall the 'daylight saving patch'.
Re-download and install the patch.
Reboot.
Set your location to Perth GST +8
Hopefully this time you should have the box to
tick for daylight saving.

Hope this helps

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''


"Flash Gortdon" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi All,
>
> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
>
> MS Windows XP did not cater for this - as its new.....so brought out a patch
> we could install.
>
> It worked a treat.
>
> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is no
> setting for WA Daylight Saving.
>
> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
> required.
>
> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are constant
> errors no matter which server is chosen.
>
> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync unrelated
> to the time zone chosen?
>
> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does not
> make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight Saving
> line)
>
> Any ideas???
>
> Cheers
>
> FG
>
>[/color]

Hi,

There is a KB929120 which also deals with Australia's Daylight Savings. It
says it is for XP though and there is no Vista version. I am not sure if the
XP version will work but you could try it.

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6bacc2d7-e643-4a58-a377-07309ab7ed4d&displaylang=en&Hash=NpwTmQ4OHPzylY%2fG2osyI9N35q8tHu381gfaSf1dhFiNQeRtH4SfRVXGhod%2b2RYXPIHSdhyjMw%2fEdMYzUcU5ig%3d%3d[/url]

Cheers,
Lara


"Flash Gortdon" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi Joe,
>
> I used this patch:-
>
> Windows-KB928939-ENU.msi
>
> Like I said it installed OK....but the check box didn't appear...I even
> rebooted to make sure but no show.
>
> I read the KB's and they constantly state in the small print that Vista has
> all of the DST dialogs included....but I think they STILL forgot WA - Au!
>
> It shouldn't be this difficult...
>
> But a bit surprised that no-one else from WA has had same problem with Vista
> Ultimate.
>
> Cheers
>
> FG
>
>
> "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:iOqGh.253$Ih.0@trnddc02...[color=green]
> > "Flash Gortdon" <flash_gordon@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
> >> [...]
> >> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
> >> no setting for WA Daylight Saving.
> >>
> >> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
> >> required.
> >>
> >> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
> >> constant errors no matter which server is chosen.
> >>
> >> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
> >> unrelated to the time zone chosen?
> >>
> >> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does
> >> not make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight
> >> Saving line)[/color]
> >
> > Is it possible that the patch correctly set the GMT offset but the
> > programmer didn't work the correct magic to enable the DST checkbox?
> >
> > What patch did you install? There have been several that involve WA but
> > it looks like the most recent that Microsoft's web site calls out is
> > KB928939:
> >
> > [url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c6a2c8fe-abda-4051-a24f-3ec933089747&DisplayLang=en[/url]
> >
> > There's also an article that describes how to use TZEDIT to manually
> > change the time zone settings:
> >
> > [url]http://www.microsoft.com/australia/technet/timezone/Windows.aspx[/url]
> >
> > Good luck...
> >
> > Joe Morris
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

Thanks....

Did as you suggested - although I wasn't to sure what placing on a diff
time-zone would accomplish - but it didn't work.

It really doesn't want to give me the option of Daylight Saving....

FG

"LoneWolf" <LoneWolf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:39DADB7B-BDA9-43C3-B3B3-6DC9FEB99C87@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Flash
>
> Try this:
>
> Set your location to GMT +2.00hrs
> Uninstall the 'daylight saving patch'.
> Re-download and install the patch.
> Reboot.
> Set your location to Perth GST +8
> Hopefully this time you should have the box to
> tick for daylight saving.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>
>
> "Flash Gortdon" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
>>
>> MS Windows XP did not cater for this - as its new.....so brought out a
>> patch
>> we could install.
>>
>> It worked a treat.
>>
>> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
>> no
>> setting for WA Daylight Saving.
>>
>> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
>> required.
>>
>> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
>> constant
>> errors no matter which server is chosen.
>>
>> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
>> unrelated
>> to the time zone chosen?
>>
>> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does
>> not
>> make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight Saving
>> line)
>>
>> Any ideas???
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> FG
>>
>>[/color][/color]

So....anyone else with any ideas or knowledge on how to fix this Daylight
Saving Issue in Vista??

Any help appreciated

FG

"Flash Gortdon" <flash_gordon@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:Ox2YG2jXHHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thanks....
>
> Did as you suggested - although I wasn't to sure what placing on a diff
> time-zone would accomplish - but it didn't work.
>
> It really doesn't want to give me the option of Daylight Saving....
>
> FG
>
> "LoneWolf" <LoneWolf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:39DADB7B-BDA9-43C3-B3B3-6DC9FEB99C87@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Flash
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> Set your location to GMT +2.00hrs
>> Uninstall the 'daylight saving patch'.
>> Re-download and install the patch.
>> Reboot.
>> Set your location to Perth GST +8
>> Hopefully this time you should have the box to
>> tick for daylight saving.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>>
>>
>> "Flash Gortdon" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight
>>> Saving.
>>>
>>> MS Windows XP did not cater for this - as its new.....so brought out a
>>> patch
>>> we could install.
>>>
>>> It worked a treat.
>>>
>>> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
>>> no
>>> setting for WA Daylight Saving.
>>>
>>> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
>>> required.
>>>
>>> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
>>> constant
>>> errors no matter which server is chosen.
>>>
>>> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
>>> unrelated
>>> to the time zone chosen?
>>>
>>> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does
>>> not
>>> make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight Saving
>>> line)
>>>
>>> Any ideas???
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> FG
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

Flash Gortdon wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi All,
>
> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
>
> MS Windows XP did not cater for this - as its new.....so brought out a
> patch we could install.
>
> It worked a treat.
>
> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
> no setting for WA Daylight Saving.
>
> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
> required.
>
> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
> constant errors no matter which server is chosen.
>
> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
> unrelated to the time zone chosen?
>
> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does
> not make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight
> Saving line)
>
> Any ideas???
>
> Cheers
>
> FG[/color]

Microsoft has patched Vista for this change before they released it. It
knows when the new DST dates are and will change you Vista time accordingly.

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Hi and Thanks - but that is the problem - it's not.

If I set it to Perth (GMT+8) - which is what it should be, the time is an
hour wrong and unlike all the other time zones with DST it does not include
the check box for the DST....

So not sure what to do.

FG

"Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message news:esfpqi$s5t$5@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Flash Gortdon wrote:[color=green]
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
>>
>> MS Windows XP did not cater for this - as its new.....so brought out a
>> patch we could install.
>>
>> It worked a treat.
>>
>> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
>> no setting for WA Daylight Saving.
>>
>> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
>> required.
>>
>> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
>> constant errors no matter which server is chosen.
>>
>> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
>> unrelated to the time zone chosen?
>>
>> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does
>> not make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight
>> Saving line)
>>
>> Any ideas???
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> FG[/color]
>
> Microsoft has patched Vista for this change before they released it. It
> knows when the new DST dates are and will change you Vista time
> accordingly.
>
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Have you looked for/at a Microsoft utility called tzedit ?

Here's links to the very comprehensive MS documents on DST which
although written to deal with the US situation contains a lot of useful
information about specific applications, not just Windows itself.

[url]http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues[/url]

[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387[/url]

This latter document contains a long set of entries for manually
correcting the settings changes for various countries and I see several
for Australia -- I didn't try to check to see if there is one for
Western Australia but if there is not you could write one based on one
of the other states, I would think.

Here's the link in the latter document to the TZEDIT.EXE download:

[url]http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/a/58a208b7-7dc7-4bc7-8357-[/url]
28e29cdac52f/tzedit.exe

If this last link which runs to more than one line does not work you
can either go to the document I took it from or paste the two lines
into one in the address box of your browser.

Hope that helps.

Wow.....that looks overly complicated to something that should be readily
rectified.

But Thanks anyway.....

I am hoping someone has a simpler solution ;-)

Cheers

FG

"Hugh Wyn Griffith" <huwyngr@unspam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:VA.00000188.002a091b@unspam.tampabay.rr.com...[color=blue]
> Have you looked for/at a Microsoft utility called tzedit ?
>
> Here's links to the very comprehensive MS documents on DST which
> although written to deal with the US situation contains a lot of useful
> information about specific applications, not just Windows itself.
>
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues[/url]
>
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387[/url]
>
> This latter document contains a long set of entries for manually
> correcting the settings changes for various countries and I see several
> for Australia -- I didn't try to check to see if there is one for
> Western Australia but if there is not you could write one based on one
> of the other states, I would think.
>
> Here's the link in the latter document to the TZEDIT.EXE download:
>
> [url]http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/a/58a208b7-7dc7-4bc7-8357-[/url]
> 28e29cdac52f/tzedit.exe
>
> If this last link which runs to more than one line does not work you
> can either go to the document I took it from or paste the two lines
> into one in the address box of your browser.
>
> Hope that helps.
>[/color]

Hi,

Got this for Windows 2000. Not sure if it will work for Vista but it is
worth a shot.

[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886775[/url]

Cheers,
Lara


"Flash Gortdon" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi Joe,
>
> I used this patch:-
>
> Windows-KB928939-ENU.msi
>
> Like I said it installed OK....but the check box didn't appear...I even
> rebooted to make sure but no show.
>
> I read the KB's and they constantly state in the small print that Vista has
> all of the DST dialogs included....but I think they STILL forgot WA - Au!
>
> It shouldn't be this difficult...
>
> But a bit surprised that no-one else from WA has had same problem with Vista
> Ultimate.
>
> Cheers
>
> FG
>
>
> "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:iOqGh.253$Ih.0@trnddc02...[color=green]
> > "Flash Gortdon" <flash_gordon@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
> >> [...]
> >> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
> >> no setting for WA Daylight Saving.
> >>
> >> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
> >> required.
> >>
> >> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
> >> constant errors no matter which server is chosen.
> >>
> >> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
> >> unrelated to the time zone chosen?
> >>
> >> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does
> >> not make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight
> >> Saving line)[/color]
> >
> > Is it possible that the patch correctly set the GMT offset but the
> > programmer didn't work the correct magic to enable the DST checkbox?
> >
> > What patch did you install? There have been several that involve WA but
> > it looks like the most recent that Microsoft's web site calls out is
> > KB928939:
> >
> > [url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c6a2c8fe-abda-4051-a24f-3ec933089747&DisplayLang=en[/url]
> >
> > There's also an article that describes how to use TZEDIT to manually
> > change the time zone settings:
> >
> > [url]http://www.microsoft.com/australia/technet/timezone/Windows.aspx[/url]
> >
> > Good luck...
> >
> > Joe Morris
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

Hi,

Vista was patched for other parts of Australia that have moved their
Daylight Savings. Perth never had daylight savings until recently. It is a
different Patch.

Microsoft - Where is the Vista Patch?

Cheers,
Lara

"Nina DiBoy" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Flash Gortdon wrote:[color=green]
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight Saving.
> >
> > MS Windows XP did not cater for this - as its new.....so brought out a
> > patch we could install.
> >
> > It worked a treat.
> >
> > However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there is
> > no setting for WA Daylight Saving.
> >
> > So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9 as
> > required.
> >
> > But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
> > constant errors no matter which server is chosen.
> >
> > Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
> > unrelated to the time zone chosen?
> >
> > I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but does
> > not make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked Daylight
> > Saving line)
> >
> > Any ideas???
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > FG[/color]
>
> Microsoft has patched Vista for this change before they released it. It
> knows when the new DST dates are and will change you Vista time accordingly.
>
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>[/color]

Flash Gortdon wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi and Thanks - but that is the problem - it's not.
>
> If I set it to Perth (GMT+8) - which is what it should be, the time is
> an hour wrong and unlike all the other time zones with DST it does not
> include the check box for the DST....
>
> So not sure what to do.
>
> FG[/color]

Hi Flash. Sorry, my mistake. That is what I understood for machines In
the US when looking at upgrading the machines at work. Have you
considered calling MS? I bet you could get this one as a free support call.
[color=blue]
>
> "Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message news:esfpqi$s5t$5@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> Flash Gortdon wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am in Western Australia....last December we brought in Daylight
>>> Saving.
>>>
>>> MS Windows XP did not cater for this - as its new.....so brought out
>>> a patch we could install.
>>>
>>> It worked a treat.
>>>
>>> However I have now installed Windows Vista Ultimate...and again there
>>> is no setting for WA Daylight Saving.
>>>
>>> So for the interim I set the time zone for Seoul giving me the GMT +9
>>> as required.
>>>
>>> But this seems to affect the Internet Time Sync - as all I get are
>>> constant errors no matter which server is chosen.
>>>
>>> Is there a fix for this? Or is there a problem with the Time Sync
>>> unrelated to the time zone chosen?
>>>
>>> I have tried to use the Daylight Saving patch and it installs but
>>> does not make any changes it seems (it normally adds the checked
>>> Daylight Saving line)
>>>
>>> Any ideas???
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> FG[/color][/color][/color]

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Download TZEDIT and have a look at it.

It is a User Interface to editing the Registry so you don't have to
understand the programming involved, at least that is my understanding.

But probably the best bet is to use the following Australian Microsoft
document which is specifically dedicated to Perth and its problems <g>

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/australia/technet/timezone/Windows.aspx[/url]

The Windows Resource Kit that they refer to is a part of the XP CD and
is not installed automatically when you install XP. You can extract it
if you have the "real" CD and not a PC manufacturer's restore disk but
why not download it from the site I gave earlier?

You could also try Method 2 where you copy paste that text into a
Notepad file, save it with the name they give that ends in .reg and
then run it to change the registry automatically.

BTW In Method 3 for doing it manually they refer to

3. Click (GMT +9:00) Osaka, Sapporo, Tokyo, and then click OK.

and not to GMT +8:00

Please let us know how you get on.