I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that it's
aggravating.

Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
--
Art Cabot
Director, Information Technology
Sizemore, Inc.

Some do - some don't.

Do want help or not?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Art Cabot" <ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E39F415-FA90-49DD-BEC3-C514E2975A87@microsoft.com...
>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that
> it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
> --
> Art Cabot
> Director, Information Technology
> Sizemore, Inc.

A lot of people hate it for a lot of reasons. But it isn't inherently slow.
I'm running it on a plain-vanilla P4 with 1GB RAM and a SATA 150 drive. It's
running at least as fast as XP. Actually, faster when you consider how
quickly you can get around without all that relentless navigating through
folders, opening programs, and such. I'm certainly not waiting around for
anything to happen.


"Art Cabot" <ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E39F415-FA90-49DD-BEC3-C514E2975A87@microsoft.com...
>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that
> it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
> --
> Art Cabot
> Director, Information Technology
> Sizemore, Inc.

I've been VERY happy with my Vista Ultimate. The only thing I'm wafting for
is the new release of iTunes. Otherwise, I'm golden. Vista has been fast,
and the UI is very nice. Maybe the issue is too many people are trying to
install on old hardware?


"Art Cabot" <ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E39F415-FA90-49DD-BEC3-C514E2975A87@microsoft.com...
>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that
> it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
> --
> Art Cabot
> Director, Information Technology
> Sizemore, Inc.

"Art Cabot" <ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E39F415-FA90-49DD-BEC3-C514E2975A87@microsoft.com...
>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that
> it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?

I felt that way when I first started setting up my OEM-Vista-equipped Vaio
laptop. Now that I've been using it for two weeks or so, everything has
stablized and I rather like Vista.

> --
> Art Cabot
> Director, Information Technology
> Sizemore, Inc.

"Art Cabot" wrote:

> I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?

On my 5 years old PC with 768MB of RAM, Windows Vista is very fast.

I have no issues with Vista that would want to make me switch back to XP..


"Art Cabot" <ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E39F415-FA90-49DD-BEC3-C514E2975A87@microsoft.com...
>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that
> it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
> --
> Art Cabot
> Director, Information Technology
> Sizemore, Inc.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:50:00 -0800, Art Cabot
<ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
>absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that it's
>aggravating.
>
>Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?

Not me. While I can find fault with Vista without really looking hard
I don't hate it. In my opinion, and I'm surely not alone, Microsoft
dropped the ball with their clumsy implementation of UAC, (User
Account Control) that's suppose to provide better security and in
reality for many will only end up being a nag, worse than any
mother-in-law, endlessly harping about access and permissions. That's
my big beef with Vista.

How much UAC is a issue for you or not, depends on what you ask your
computer to do, what hardware and software you have and how some tasks
run under special permissions or not which may have worked fine and
transparently under XP, but now, for some, may cause UAC to bitch like
your wife at that time of month. <wink> I don't see that as a feature,
it can be and is for me a huge annoyance that was not thought out well
and obviously not well tested under real world situations. I hate all
the time I've wasted messing with UAC when it constantly intefers with
what I'm trying to do on MY COMPUTER because it doesn't work as
advertised and it insisting it runs my computer rather then ME running
it. UAC for the most part is hand holding for dummies. It doesn't
really protect anything. It simply nags are you sure you want to do
something. The first time you may find such a warning amusing, the
second and third time you'll get annoyed, after that you may start
cursing at UAC because it won't shut up.

The rest of Vists brings some nice features, mostly refinements,
nothing earth shaking. Lots of little tweaks, better implementation
for some things, for sure if your have Aero running a much prettier
Windows if that's your kind of thing. Some will like those changes,
others won't. That's human nature.

Another annoying thing until you get used it is common controls for
everyday tasks have been switched around or moved had a facelift, that
too is common in each upgrade of Windows. Just takes a little getting
use to and causes some fumbling around until you retrain yourself.

Build-in search options have undergone a lot of change. Again some
will love that, others won't.

As far as speed, my experience (your mileage may vary) it is
marginally faster doing some things, noticeablly faster on a few
applications, others about the the same as XP. I don't see anything
running slower. If you see that, chances are you have driver issues or
Registry bloat or some kind of configuration issue.

On the negative side, some issues that have plagued Windows for years,
decades actually for some, still haven't been fixed. Hung applications
can't always be shut down promply, even from Task Manager or at all
without hitting the power switch on your PC. Windows Explorer while
having some nice improvements can and still does hang, your desktop
icons still get redrawn for no rhyme or reason out of the blue,
shutdown can take minutes for no particular reason, Windows will nag
and balk over trivial issues, but it has always done that. Media
Player is still too dumb to always play supported file types,
thumbnails may or may not appear correctly with or without Registry
hacks, new goofy network issues have been noted. Again, you expect
such things early in a release.

We are all Microsoft drones. We eat whatever Microsoft gives us.
How could we not love it? We are Emm Vee Pees (MVP's) and
vistaboy fans.

We have made shrines to vista and pray 3 times daily.

We also are ready to insult, ridicule and call trolls whoever has a
different opinion
than we do. We call all this advancement and progress.

We are free to say how great vista is on this newsgroup, but when someone
complains,
we ask them if they have any problem.. if they are just here to complain,
then we
discourage him as much as possible. You see we cant have people in here who
actually think! Thought is a dangerous thing..
We sit in front of our vista glass screens hypnotized by the animated
wallpaper...

No one should disrupt our bliss!!!




"Art Cabot" <ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E39F415-FA90-49DD-BEC3-C514E2975A87@microsoft.com...
>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that
> it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
> --
> Art Cabot
> Director, Information Technology
> Sizemore, Inc.

On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:55:00 -0500, "Richard Urban"
<richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:

>Some do - some don't.
>
>Do want help or not?

When have you given any help? You're just a typical MVP Microsoft
butt kisser.

Art,

I thought the same thing when I first installed the Vista Business.
Everything was running very slow and my mouse would free up quite frequently
for 10-20 seconds. As a developer I was about ready to trash it and go back
to XP. That was when I realized that one of my external drives (USB 2.0
connected) couldn't be recognized and that Vista was constantly pinging it.
I unplugged the device and rebooted... This have worked well since that
point.

Best Regards,

Michael Gould




"Art Cabot" <ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E39F415-FA90-49DD-BEC3-C514E2975A87@microsoft.com...
>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that
> it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
> --
> Art Cabot
> Director, Information Technology
> Sizemore, Inc.

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:55:00 -0500, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
>
>> Some do - some don't.
>>
>> Do want help or not?
>
> When have you given any help?

Never.

> You're just a typical MVP Microsoft
> butt kisser.

He usually only insults people and calls them trolls.

Alias

On Mar 3, 8:50 am, Art Cabot <ArtCa...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that it's
> aggravating.
>
> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
> --
> Art Cabot
> Director, Information Technology
> Sizemore, Inc.

I'm really mystified by those that say that Vista runs slow. My
experience is that it's very fast. Mine is Home Premium, clean
install on a home built computer with Core 2 Duo, 1 GB, 128 mb video
card. Example: I have a folder in IE favorites called "Daily stuff"
with seven web sites I read each day (news, comics, etc.). From the
time I start the computer, open the web sites, and shut down the
computer, Vista is 5 minutes faster than my previous computer
(admittedly, a Pentium 3, 500 mhz, Windows 98) or my laptop with
Pentium 4, 2.6 ghz, and XP.

> He usually only insults people and calls them trolls.

See my post in this thread.. I talk about that....


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.mx> wrote in message
news:escckb$ea2$3@aioe.org...
> Adam Albright wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:55:00 -0500, "Richard Urban"
>> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Some do - some don't.
>>>
>>> Do want help or not?
>>
>> When have you given any help?
>
> Never.
>
>> You're just a typical MVP Microsoft
>> butt kisser.
>
> He usually only insults people and calls them trolls.
>
> Alias

Actually, the more bitching and moaning in here is good for the development
of service packs and future releases of Windows. So many people are fed up
with UAC, that I'm sure in the next release of Windows, there will be
something similar, but a LOT more transparent.

The problem that most people in here have (Vista Fanboys, MVP's, whatever),
is the trolls. They don't contribute to anything, recommend that they leave
Vista for OSX or Linux or BSD or MS-DOS; with no suggestions to fix their
problem. If they are asking for help, and we turn them away to go to OSX,
they lose the help they need and want.

Does Vista have it's problems: HELL YES! Do I still like Vista: HELL YEA!
I've been with almost every Microsoft release since DOS 5. All have had
their problems, and it all ends up good in the end. I've also used quite a
few Linux distros, OSX and a little BSD. They all have their great points,
and their bad points. Let's just help them out to make their PC use fun and
productive. They have Vista, and they have a problem that needs fixed. MVP
or average Joe, we can all contribute. Just stop the worthless posts and
trolling. They don't help anyone, and they're a pain to filter through when
looking for some genuine help.

--
Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com

--
"nick" <1@1.1> wrote in message
news:uHrB1sbXHHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> We are all Microsoft drones. We eat whatever Microsoft gives us.
> How could we not love it? We are Emm Vee Pees (MVP's) and
> vistaboy fans.
>
> We have made shrines to vista and pray 3 times daily.
>
> We also are ready to insult, ridicule and call trolls whoever has a
> different opinion
> than we do. We call all this advancement and progress.
>
> We are free to say how great vista is on this newsgroup, but when someone
> complains,
> we ask them if they have any problem.. if they are just here to complain,
> then we
> discourage him as much as possible. You see we cant have people in here
> who actually think! Thought is a dangerous thing..
> We sit in front of our vista glass screens hypnotized by the animated
> wallpaper...
>
> No one should disrupt our bliss!!!
>
>
>
>
> "Art Cabot" <ArtCabot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1E39F415-FA90-49DD-BEC3-C514E2975A87@microsoft.com...
>>I just "met" my first Vista machine (OEM install) and, so far at least, I
>> absolutely HATE it. It's by far the slowest OS I've set-up, so slow that
>> it's
>> aggravating.
>>
>> Am I alone or does anybody else feel this way?
>> --
>> Art Cabot
>> Director, Information Technology
>> Sizemore, Inc.
>
>