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Old 02-25-2007, 04:30 PM
Imageman
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OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it off?
I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more useable.
There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot of superfluous
crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks', but . . . . . That's
my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM

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Old 02-25-2007, 04:30 PM
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

Have you tried going to Security Center in Control Panel and clicking on
'Change the way Security Center alerts me'?


"Imageman" <Images@Clean.New> wrote in message
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> Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
> Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it off?
> I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more useable.
> There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot of
> superfluous crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks', but .
> . . . . That's my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM[/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]



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Old 02-25-2007, 05:00 PM
Adam Albright
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:16:13 -0800, "Imageman" <Images@Clean.New>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
>Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it off?
>I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more useable.
>There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot of superfluous
>crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks', but . . . . . That's
>my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM[/color]


You're going to kick yourself...

Locate the Security Center icon on the Task Tray extreme lower right
at bottom of your desktop. When the window opens, left pane, click on
"change the way security center alters me". You have one of three
choices.


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Old 02-25-2007, 09:15 PM
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

"Imageman" <Images@Clean.New> wrote[color=blue]
> Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
> Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it off?
> I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more useable.
> There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot of
> superfluous crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks', but .
> . . . . That's my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM[/color]

You mean you are good enough that you don't need UAC, but can't figure out
how to turn off the alert?

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Old 02-26-2007, 02:30 AM
Jim
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:43:17 -0600, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:16:13 -0800, "Imageman" <Images@Clean.New>
>wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
>>Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it off?
>>I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more useable.
>>There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot of superfluous
>>crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks', but . . . . . That's
>>my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM[/color]
>
>
>You're going to kick yourself...
>
>Locate the Security Center icon on the Task Tray extreme lower right
>at bottom of your desktop. When the window opens, left pane, click on
>"change the way security center alters me". You have one of three
>choices.
>[/color]


Unfortunately that's "all or nothing". There seems to be no way to say
"alert me if Defender or AV isn't running, but don't bother telling me
if UAC isn't running because I disabled UAC myself" etc.


Jim

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Old 02-26-2007, 03:30 AM
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

:-)

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OvqayTWWHHA.192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Imageman" <Images@Clean.New> wrote[color=green]
>> Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
>> Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it
>> off? I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more
>> useable. There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot of
>> superfluous crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks', but .
>> . . . . That's my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM[/color]
>
> You mean you are good enough that you don't need UAC, but can't figure out
> how to turn off the alert?
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell][/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]



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Old 02-26-2007, 09:45 AM
Imageman
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

Hey, I'm an old guy :-) Much past one layer deep and I'm in 'try this'
mode, with no memory of what I just did. Would you believe that I've had a
computer on my desk since the late 70's ? This first week with Vista, and my
spanking new computer, have been a real challenge. and learning curve. Day
before yesterday, I could have scrapped everything. Yesterday was really
good, and today is excellent . . . Vista Rocks! ! !

And thank God for you guys and your help - Gratefully, IM

ps - I figured it out . . .



"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OvqayTWWHHA.192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Imageman" <Images@Clean.New> wrote[color=green]
>> Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
>> Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it
>> off? I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more
>> useable. There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot of
>> superfluous crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks', but .
>> . . . . That's my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM[/color]
>
> You mean you are good enough that you don't need UAC, but can't figure out
> how to turn off the alert?
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell][/color]

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Old 02-26-2007, 03:18 PM
Rock
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

"Imageman" <Images@Clean.New> wrote[color=blue]
> Hey, I'm an old guy :-) Much past one layer deep and I'm in 'try this'
> mode, with no memory of what I just did. Would you believe that I've had a
> computer on my desk since the late 70's ? This first week with Vista, and
> my spanking new computer, have been a real challenge. and learning curve.
> Day before yesterday, I could have scrapped everything. Yesterday was
> really good, and today is excellent . . . Vista Rocks! ! !
>
> And thank God for you guys and your help - Gratefully, IM
>
> ps - I figured it out . . .[/color]
[color=blue]
> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> "Imageman" <Images@Clean.New> wrote[color=darkred]
>>> Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
>>> Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it
>>> off? I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more
>>> useable. There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot
>>> of superfluous crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks',
>>> but . . . . . That's my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM[/color]
>>
>> You mean you are good enough that you don't need UAC, but can't figure
>> out how to turn off the alert?[/color][/color]

You've got a great attitude! I just recommend you turn UAC back on. It's
there to give you control over what's happening on your system at the admin
level. Here are some links with info about UAC.

[url]http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx[/url]

[url]http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/0d75f774-8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true[/url]

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

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Old 02-26-2007, 04:00 PM
Imageman
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

Thanks Rock! I will study up on the links you provided to make my decision.
Appreciate your compliment - IM



"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OtuldvfWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Imageman" <Images@Clean.New> wrote[color=green]
>> Hey, I'm an old guy :-) Much past one layer deep and I'm in 'try this'
>> mode, with no memory of what I just did. Would you believe that I've had
>> a computer on my desk since the late 70's ? This first week with Vista,
>> and my spanking new computer, have been a real challenge. and learning
>> curve. Day before yesterday, I could have scrapped everything. Yesterday
>> was really good, and today is excellent . . . Vista Rocks! ! !
>>
>> And thank God for you guys and your help - Gratefully, IM
>>
>> ps - I figured it out . . .[/color]
>[color=green]
>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> "Imageman" <Images@Clean.New> wrote
>>>> Turned that irritating business off, but how do I stop that persistent
>>>> Windows Security Center Window from popping up telling me I turned it
>>>> off? I've got about 80 hours in now since Tuesday, making Vista more
>>>> useable. There are a bunch of neat features buried in there, and a lot
>>>> of superfluous crapola also. I'm not quite ready to say 'Vista Rocks',
>>>> but . . . . . That's my story, and I'm sticking to it - IM
>>>
>>> You mean you are good enough that you don't need UAC, but can't figure
>>> out how to turn off the alert?[/color][/color]
>
> You've got a great attitude! I just recommend you turn UAC back on. It's
> there to give you control over what's happening on your system at the
> admin level. Here are some links with info about UAC.
>
> [url]http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx[/url]
>
> [url]http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/0d75f774-8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true[/url]
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell][/color]

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Old 02-26-2007, 05:30 PM
Adam Albright
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . . . .

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:14:22 -0800, "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote:

[color=blue]
>You've got a great attitude! I just recommend you turn UAC back on. It's
>there to give you control over what's happening on your system at the admin
>level. Here are some links with info about UAC.[/color]

I'm still waiting for any MVP or anybody for that matter to tell me
how you "turn on" "run as administrator" if that option is grayed out
or totally absent. Then tell me why at times where permissions are
suppose to be listed there is nothing but a blank white screen and
clicking the advanced tab to attempt to work around it from the
previous menu does nothing. Want to give it a shot Rock?

My point here is while the intention of the UAC was to give control
over what's happening on your system there are times when it screws it
up pretty bad as I've just detailed.

Worse as I've said a couple times there are doucmented cases where
hackers HAVE ALREADY broke Vista's new "security" one time at a
convention with Microsoft officials just feet away watching it happen
in real time.

That got to rank up there when Billy G himself was on stage doing a
demo of brand new Windows 98 and got a blue screen of death.

A VERY funny video, take a look:

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RgriTO8UHvs&search=blue%20screen%20of%20death[/url]


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Old 02-27-2007, 09:00 AM
mhonzell
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Re: OK, that 'User Account Control' crap is off, but how do I . .

What I've determined so far about UAC:

1. If you are intentionally attempting to install software, say... MS
Office, you have to not only prove who you are, but then give permission to
proceed. If you have third party barriers, you are simply bombarded with
windows asking permission.

2. If you are attempting to run a program that would normally run at the C:\
prompt level, then it doesn't bother asking, it just runs and then dies...
you have to right-click the program and state Run as Administrator without
any proof of who you are.

3. If you are having problems with Vista and can't find the program you need
in the "freeform" Start Menu (because they've all been renamed), and simply
start trying stuff, then you quickly turn off the UAC so you can stay focused
on the problem that got you here. Then, ultimately, you are led to even more
problems when you run something you should not have.

When I learn how to turn off these annoying balloon tooltips, UAC warnings
and permissions, get the files to show their extensions and are no longer
hidden and provide some structure to this mess, I might be able to get Vista
to run without BSODs that automatically reboot before you can read them.

Yep, it's a learning curve.
Darn, just deleted my Recycle Bin... now, how do I get that back?

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Old 02-27-2007, 09:45 AM
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> Darn, just deleted my Recycle Bin... now, how do I get that back?

Ask your system administrator.

-Frank


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Old 02-27-2007, 11:45 AM
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Personalize > Desktop > Desktop Icon Settings

Check boxes for what you want to see.
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