My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run smoothly
and reasonably fast.

Is that incorrect?

How much VRAM for Good Performance?

DSH

"BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
[color=blue]
> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
> 120G hard drive.
>
> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>
> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>
> --
> Barry Schnur[/color]

It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs just fine with
1 GB RAM.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
[url]http://www.vistahelp.ca[/url]


"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>
> Is that incorrect?
>
> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>
> DSH
>
> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>[color=green]
>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>> 120G hard drive.
>>
>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>
>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>
>> --
>> Barry Schnur[/color]
>
>[/color]

That's fully incorrect, but it's a popular statement.

Depending on what you're doing Vista runs quite well on 512mb of memory.
For light-use home users who do email, Internet, a little light word
processing and such AND who have a graphic adapter that has dedicated
memory, 512mb is perfectly useable.

I would recommend that most folks use 1gb as a starting point, especially if
they have shared memory between video and system use, then evaluate
performance and watch to see if they're getting a lot of pagefile use going
on. If not, then 2gb would be a waste.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] [email]rgharper******.com[/email]
* NEW! Catch my blog ... [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/[/url]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - [url]http://rgharper.mvps.org/[/url]
* HELP us help YOU ... [url]http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm[/url]


"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>
> Is that incorrect?
>
> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>
> DSH
>
> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>[color=green]
>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>> 120G hard drive.
>>
>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>
>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>
>> --
>> Barry Schnur[/color]
>
>[/color]

I found it sluggish under 1Gb and fine anything above that. After 1½Gb I
didn't notice a great deal of difference.

Bobby

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>
> Is that incorrect?
>
> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>
> DSH
>
> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>[color=green]
>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>> 120G hard drive.
>>
>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>
>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>
>> --
>> Barry Schnur[/color]
>
>[/color]

I use Ultimate for office apps, CD/DVD burning etc & no games & I had to
upgrade from 512 - 1024mb RAM.
512 was way too slow, but 1024 is fine.

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>
> Is that incorrect?
>
> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>
> DSH
>
> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>[color=green]
>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>> 120G hard drive.
>>
>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>
>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>
>> --
>> Barry Schnur[/color]
>
>[/color]

More detail please.

What can one do and not do with 1 GB of RAM.

The "Most People" Argument is not helpful.

Video RAM?

DSH

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:O64GPvRWHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[color=blue]
> It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs just fine
> with 1 GB RAM.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> [url]http://www.vistahelp.ca[/url]
>
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
> news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
>> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>>
>> Is that incorrect?
>>
>> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>>> 120G hard drive.
>>>
>>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>>
>>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barry Schnur[/color][/color][/color]

"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:u08WFwRWHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[color=blue]
> That's fully incorrect, but it's a popular statement.
>
> Depending on what you're doing Vista runs quite well on 512mb of memory.
> For light-use home users who do email, Internet, a little light word
> processing and such AND who have a graphic adapter that has dedicated
> memory, 512mb is perfectly useable.[/color]

What's "light word processing"? How much VRAM? So those are the MS defined
"Light Users".
[color=blue]
> I would recommend that most folks use 1gb as a starting point, especially
> if they have shared memory between video and system use, then evaluate
> performance and watch to see if they're getting a lot of pagefile use
> going on. If not, then 2gb would be a waste.[/color]

ADDING 1 GB of RAM to a laptop that already has both slots filled with 512
MB sticks is no easy or inexpensive task.

Why do you make it sound as if it's an Easy Option "Later"?

You've only discussed "Light Users".

NOT "Medium Users" [or whatever moniker you choose to tag them with] and
"Heavy Users" -- or your chosen tag.

Of course "Light Users" can easily gravitate to "Medium" and "Heavy" -- so
you want them to buy all NEW hardware and software when they do that?

DSH
[color=blue]
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] [email]rgharper******.com[/email]
> * NEW! Catch my blog ... [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/[/url]
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * The Website - [url]http://rgharper.mvps.org/[/url]
> * HELP us help YOU ... [url]http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm[/url]
>
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
> news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
>> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>>
>> Is that incorrect?
>>
>> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>>> 120G hard drive.
>>>
>>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>>
>>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barry Schnur[/color][/color][/color]

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>
> Is that incorrect?[/color]


It runs fine for me with 1 GB and I'm sure it would run fine for most people
with 512 MB. The ones that would want more are probably those who play a
lot of games or do a lot of multimedia.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
[url]http://www.fjsmjs.com[/url]
Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.

Bingo!

Now THAT is a useful answer -- FREE of Bafflegab and Lightspeak.

Thank You.

What do you do with that box?

DSH

"Bobby" <bobby@europe.com> wrote in message
news:uCtwp1RWHHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[color=blue]
>I found it sluggish under 1Gb and fine anything above that. After 1½Gb I
>didn't notice a great deal of difference.
>
> Bobby
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
> news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
>> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>>
>> Is that incorrect?
>>
>> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>>> 120G hard drive.
>>>
>>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>>
>>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barry Schnur[/color][/color][/color]

Thanks.

No Games Noted.

How about movies and YouTube?

DSH

"Richard" <rgdakin********.co.uk> wrote in message
news:EA2EE518-3618-418A-8E13-DDCCDDD8898A@microsoft.com...
[color=blue]
>I use Ultimate for office apps, CD/DVD burning etc & no games & I had to
>upgrade from 512 - 1024mb RAM.
> 512 was way too slow, but 1024 is fine.
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
> news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
>> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>>
>> Is that incorrect?
>>
>> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>>> 120G hard drive.
>>>
>>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>>
>>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barry Schnur[/color][/color][/color]

I am currently using buisness, so I do not know how much extra
Ultimate requires.
But, I can easily have all my office apps open along with lotsa tab's
in the browser, and a movie running, and then I use like 50-60% of my
1Gig RAM.
Furthermore I have had no difficulties playing a resource hogging game
like Oblivion.

So unless you planning on doing heavy operations like video-editing,
or 3D-drawing/rendering I'd say 1Gig is perfectly fine.

> It runs fine for me with 1 GB and I'm sure it would run fine for most[color=blue]
> people with 512 MB. The ones that would want more are probably those who
> play a lot of games or do a lot of multimedia.[/color]

You don't specify "IT"...

Vista Ultimate?
-----------------------------------------
[color=blue]
>The ones that would want more are probably those who play a lot of games or
>do a lot of multimedia.[/color]

Such as watching an HD film on the laptop or letting the grandson play his
favorite game on it?

Or watching YouTube?

"A lot of games" -- How about ONE state of the art TODAY game -- fast and
reliably -- no hangups -- no pauses with frozen screen -- and so forth?

How much Video RAM to run Vista Ultimate FAST & RELIABLY.

It's like pulling teeth -- one just keeps trying...

DSH

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:FE0ECB55-F0B8-40DD-8B73-8B329B37140C@microsoft.com...
[color=blue]
> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
> news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
>> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>>
>> Is that incorrect?[/color]
>
> It runs fine for me with 1 GB and I'm sure it would run fine for most
> people with 512 MB. The ones that would want more are probably those who
> play a lot of games or do a lot of multimedia.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> [url]http://www.fjsmjs.com[/url]
> Answer in newsgroup. Don't expect an answer to email.[/color]

I run 2gb
Games........great
Decode video............great
copy DVD/Rip CD/etc..........great
YouTube......waste of my time but it works smoothly with a good fast
Internet connection.

I used to run it with 1gb and it was just fine..but anyone will definitly
see an improvement with 2gb.And I am still running an Evaluation copy RC2
build 5744..64bit
peter
"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
news:eMjZRHSWHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thanks.
>
> No Games Noted.
>
> How about movies and YouTube?
>
> DSH
>
> "Richard" <rgdakin********.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:EA2EE518-3618-418A-8E13-DDCCDDD8898A@microsoft.com...
>[color=green]
>>I use Ultimate for office apps, CD/DVD burning etc & no games & I had to
>>upgrade from 512 - 1024mb RAM.
>> 512 was way too slow, but 1024 is fine.
>>
>> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
>> news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
>>> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>>>
>>> Is that incorrect?
>>>
>>> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>>>
>>> DSH
>>>
>>> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>>>> 120G hard drive.
>>>>
>>>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>>>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>>>
>>>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>>>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>>>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Barry Schnur[/color][/color]
>
>[/color]

Thanks.

Useful Answer.

ALL those running at the SAME time -- RIGHT?

What if you then tried to download the latest Vista Update at the same
time -- or install the daily AV update?

What if you want to walk through the Louvre in 3D at the same time?

Or send an English email and then one in French and then one in Japanese?

Would you have to stop the movie? <g>

I see you are a doctor -- or say you are.

Let's say you are a physician rather than a Ph.D.

Let's say you want to view a video of some physician describing how to take
out your own appendix in an emergency, because you think you might need to
know that some day.

The movie is stopped but can you keep it open and also stop the stroll
through the Louve -- but keep that open and waiting too -- and then pick up
on both later -- at the exact point you left without losing the entire
shebang?

DSH

<Dr.NeyNey******.com> wrote in message
news:1172439073.291663.217950@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
[color=blue]
>I am currently using buisness, so I do not know how much extra
> Ultimate requires.[/color]
[color=blue]
> But, I can easily have all my office apps open along with lotsa tab's
> in the browser, and a movie running, and then I use like 50-60% of my
> 1Gig RAM.[/color]
[color=blue]
> Furthermore I have had no difficulties playing a resource hogging game
> like Oblivion.
>
> So unless you planning on doing heavy operations like video-editing,
> or 3D-drawing/rendering I'd say 1Gig is perfectly fine.[/color]

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden********.com> wrote in message
news:%233FF5jRWHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
> smoothly and reasonably fast.
>
> Is that incorrect?
>
> How much VRAM for Good Performance?
>
> DSH
>
> "BSchnur" <BSchnur@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.204b942ca0958d1b989829@msnews.microsoft.com...
>[color=green]
>> Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
>> 120G hard drive.
>>
>> Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
>> reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.
>>
>> I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
>> 32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
>> don't really see the point for the move in my situation.
>>
>> --
>> Barry Schnur[/color]
>
>[/color]

i got 2gb of ram, and vista run far from fine for me, its very sluggish
sometimes it still crashes