I switched to Windows Live Mail Desktop (beta) until a solution is found.
The frozen email did not migrate to it. However, neither did my Mail
folders. I find that as long as I opt for the beta mail to be my choice for
first priority, the other mailbox although unattended, retains all folders
as-is.

Yes - including the iceberg.

Oldsalt in PA

"Steve Cochran" wrote:
[color=blue]
> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if that
> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>
> steve
>
> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
> > properties
> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
> > displayed, an error has occured.
> >
> > I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color]
>[/color]

"Oldsalt" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I switched to Windows Live Mail Desktop (beta) until a solution is found.
> The frozen email did not migrate to it. However, neither did my Mail
> folders. I find that as long as I opt for the beta mail to be my choice for
> first priority, the other mailbox although unattended, retains all folders
> as-is.
>
> Yes - including the iceberg.
>
> Oldsalt in PA
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
> > using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if that
> > helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
> >
> > steve
> >
> > "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> > >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
> > > properties
> > > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
> > > displayed, an error has occured.
> > >
> > > I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color]
> >[/color][/color]

Hello,
Can you please clarify what I am to do about this outbox mail problem, I am
confused I see that some have reinstalled and that below there is an option
to hire someone to provide technical to help me?? I have to be able to send
emails, save them automatically and work from home -- not for long though
this will cost me my job if I can not work within this operating system
efficiently. I also understand that reinstalling I will lose all my data
correct, that too is not an option, I will be out of a job HELP me please.

"Steve Cochran" wrote:
[color=blue]
> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if that
> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>
> steve
>
> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
> > properties
> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
> > displayed, an error has occured.
> >
> > I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color]
>[/color]

[url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
Steve Cochran has updated this utility to remove stuck messages from the outbox.
It is free and effective.


"Linda" <Linda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9C409F6B-F0AF-4848-B07E-CF7B52327A5A@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Hello,
> Can you please clarify what I am to do about this outbox mail problem, I am
> confused I see that some have reinstalled and that below there is an option
> to hire someone to provide technical to help me?? I have to be able to send
> emails, save them automatically and work from home -- not for long though
> this will cost me my job if I can not work within this operating system
> efficiently. I also understand that reinstalling I will lose all my data
> correct, that too is not an option, I will be out of a job HELP me please.
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
>> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if that
>> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
>> > properties
>> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
>> > displayed, an error has occured.
>> >
>> > I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

This was exactly what I needed. Thanks for ending my frustration!

"Cal Bear '66" wrote:
[color=blue]
> [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
> Steve Cochran has updated this utility to remove stuck messages from the outbox.
> It is free and effective.
>
>
> "Linda" <Linda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9C409F6B-F0AF-4848-B07E-CF7B52327A5A@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Hello,
> > Can you please clarify what I am to do about this outbox mail problem, I am
> > confused I see that some have reinstalled and that below there is an option
> > to hire someone to provide technical to help me?? I have to be able to send
> > emails, save them automatically and work from home -- not for long though
> > this will cost me my job if I can not work within this operating system
> > efficiently. I also understand that reinstalling I will lose all my data
> > correct, that too is not an option, I will be out of a job HELP me please.
> >
> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
> >> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if that
> >> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...
> >> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
> >> > properties
> >> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
> >> > displayed, an error has occured.
> >> >
> >> > I tried rebooting but its still there.
> >>[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

How did you fix this? I'm having the same problem. It's happened before and
I ended up on the phone with HP for 2-1/2 hours! With a 2 and 4 year old
running around, that's not an option today! I can't remember how I fixed it
last time, since we tried so many things. Thanks!


"One-eyed Willie" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Its fixed, I was on the phone earlier with a microsoft support guy and he
> wanted me to re-install windows!! I spent 4 hrs looking for help and calling
> and posting, Seems as if they at least made the fix easier to find, that
> would be a start.....
> I learned about this discussion group so it wasn't a complete waste of time
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > You can close WinMail and then move the entire contents of the message store
> > directory to another directory and that will start it up fresh. You can
> > then drag the eml files (messages) back into the WinMail folders.
> >
> > Microsoft is unlikely to fix any bugs in WinMail anytime soon, as it has a
> > very low priority. So workarounds and 3rd party programs are going to be
> > required, just as they were with OE.
> >
> > steve
> >
> > "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:2BD86271-9175-4F0E-AD30-1F3CCEAA47AC@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> > >I am very annoyed with this bug, but I don't know how to report it either.
> > >I
> > > had messages I thought I sent but they get stuck also, however I can send
> > > or
> > > delete them manally. Maybe I will take my computer back to Best Buy, its
> > > still under warranty.
> > >
> > > "Mario Rosario" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Anyone file a bug with Microsoft? I and many others have this problem.
> > >> This
> > >> is very annoying. Now that I upgraded to RTM, I don't have the link to
> > >> file
> > >> a bug.
> > >>
> > >> Mario
> > >>
> > >> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:CBEA9911-103A-4A2A-B5EE-0033C8E00F0E@microsoft.com...
> > >> > There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
> > >> > using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if
> > >> > that
> > >> > helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
> > >> >
> > >> > steve
> > >> >
> > >> > "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > >> > message news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...
> > >> >>I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
> > >> >> properties
> > >> >> it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not
> > >> >> be
> > >> >> displayed, an error has occured.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I tried rebooting but its still there.
> > >> >
> > >>[/color]
> >[/color][/color]

See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]


--
I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"Meredith" <Meredith@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46BCC663-CB6E-4B8F-93B8-5C9B325C8870@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> How did you fix this? I'm having the same problem. It's happened before and
> I ended up on the phone with HP for 2-1/2 hours! With a 2 and 4 year old
> running around, that's not an option today! I can't remember how I fixed it
> last time, since we tried so many things. Thanks!
>
>
> "One-eyed Willie" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Its fixed, I was on the phone earlier with a microsoft support guy and he
>> wanted me to re-install windows!! I spent 4 hrs looking for help and calling
>> and posting, Seems as if they at least made the fix easier to find, that
>> would be a start.....
>> I learned about this discussion group so it wasn't a complete waste of time
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > You can close WinMail and then move the entire contents of the message
>> > store
>> > directory to another directory and that will start it up fresh. You can
>> > then drag the eml files (messages) back into the WinMail folders.
>> >
>> > Microsoft is unlikely to fix any bugs in WinMail anytime soon, as it has a
>> > very low priority. So workarounds and 3rd party programs are going to be
>> > required, just as they were with OE.
>> >
>> > steve
>> >
>> > "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:2BD86271-9175-4F0E-AD30-1F3CCEAA47AC@microsoft.com...
>> > >I am very annoyed with this bug, but I don't know how to report it either.
>> > >I
>> > > had messages I thought I sent but they get stuck also, however I can send
>> > > or
>> > > delete them manally. Maybe I will take my computer back to Best Buy, its
>> > > still under warranty.
>> > >
>> > > "Mario Rosario" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Anyone file a bug with Microsoft? I and many others have this problem.
>> > >> This
>> > >> is very annoying. Now that I upgraded to RTM, I don't have the link to
>> > >> file
>> > >> a bug.
>> > >>
>> > >> Mario
>> > >>
>> > >> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:CBEA9911-103A-4A2A-B5EE-0033C8E00F0E@microsoft.com...
>> > >> > There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can
>> > >> > try
>> > >> > using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if
>> > >> > that
>> > >> > helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>> > >> >
>> > >> > steve
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > >> > message news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...
>> > >> >>I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
>> > >> >> properties
>> > >> >> it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could
>> > >> >> not
>> > >> >> be
>> > >> >> displayed, an error has occured.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I tried rebooting but its still there.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >[/color][/color][/color]

We just got our new laptop on Sunday with Windows Vista and I already have
an e-mail that is stuck in the inbox. Very frustrating, and disappointing to
hear this is not a new problem, and they havne't done anything to correct it.
We're going to switch back to Windows XP. Never had that problem on that
version.

"Steve Cochran" wrote:
[color=blue]
> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if that
> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>
> steve
>
> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
> > properties
> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
> > displayed, an error has occured.
> >
> > I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color]
>[/color]

Going back to XP because you don't like Vista's mail program
is like throwing the baby out with the bath water...

If Windows Mail's bugs disappoint you, try Windows Live Mail:
[url]http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas[/url]

Gary VanderMolen


"BrianToronto" <BrianToronto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3BD5D314-97B7-40C9-B2F6-C1EEFF73A793@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> We just got our new laptop on Sunday with Windows Vista and I already have
> an e-mail that is stuck in the inbox. Very frustrating, and disappointing to
> hear this is not a new problem, and they havne't done anything to correct it.
> We're going to switch back to Windows XP. Never had that problem on that
> version.
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
>> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if that
>> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
>> > properties
>> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
>> > displayed, an error has occured.
>> >
>> > I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

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Gary VanderMolen wrote:[color=blue]
> Going back to XP because you don't like Vista's mail program
> is like throwing the baby out with the bath water...
>
> If Windows Mail's bugs disappoint you, try Windows Live Mail:
> [url]http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas[/url]
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
>
> "BrianToronto" <BrianToronto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3BD5D314-97B7-40C9-B2F6-C1EEFF73A793@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> We just got our new laptop on Sunday with Windows Vista and I already have
>> an e-mail that is stuck in the inbox. Very frustrating, and disappointing to
>> hear this is not a new problem, and they havne't done anything to correct it.
>> We're going to switch back to Windows XP. Never had that problem on that
>> version.
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
>>> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if that
>>> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...
>>>> I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
>>>> properties
>>>> it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
>>>> displayed, an error has occured.
>>>>
>>>> I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color][/color]
>[/color]

Or even better, try out Thunderbird :-)
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"BrianToronto" <BrianToronto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3BD5D314-97B7-40C9-B2F6-C1EEFF73A793@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> We just got our new laptop on Sunday with Windows Vista and I already have
> an e-mail that is stuck in the inbox. Very frustrating, and disappointing
> to
> hear this is not a new problem, and they havne't done anything to correct
> it.
> We're going to switch back to Windows XP. Never had that problem on that
> version.
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
>> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if
>> that
>> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
>> > properties
>> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not
>> > be
>> > displayed, an error has occured.
>> >
>> > I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

If you are not willing to just ignore them, the only way is to delete both
copies of the database (which does not contain the messages, but only
references to them) and let WinMail rebuild it.
First close WinMail, then use Task Manager to make sure there are no
instances of it under applications or processes.
Then click Start | Search | Advanced Search
Check the box to include non-indexed, hidden and system files.
In the Name field type WindowsMail.MSMessageStore and click the Search
button.
It should show you two copies. Delete both of them and re-open WinMail.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

I have one message stuck in my In-Box and now have one stuck in my Out-Box. I
have talked to my local cable provider and Microsoft about the problem and
got no help.I called Dell about the problem since I bought the system from
them and they confirmed my problem and told me that Microsoft is working on
the problem and will put solutions out thru Updates. Could take to the end of
the year. At the rate I'm going I will start filling up my mail boxes with
stuck mail if I don't get a solution soon.




"One-eyed Willie" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
> properties
> it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
> displayed, an error has occured.
>
> I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color]

You should post to the microsoft.public.vista. mail group

For stuck Outbox messages go to:

[url]http://www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/Default.aspx[/url]

It's free and effective (Read the instructions carefully, especially the red
box).

--
I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"Message stuck in Inbox" <MessagestuckinInbox@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message news:664F495A-8BEB-4672-B15E-A5A93BD2936D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have one message stuck in my In-Box and now have one stuck in my Out-Box. I
> have talked to my local cable provider and Microsoft about the problem and
> got no help.I called Dell about the problem since I bought the system from
> them and they confirmed my problem and told me that Microsoft is working on
> the problem and will put solutions out thru Updates. Could take to the end of
> the year. At the rate I'm going I will start filling up my mail boxes with
> stuck mail if I don't get a solution soon.
>
>
>
>
> "One-eyed Willie" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
>> properties
>> it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not be
>> displayed, an error has occured.
>>
>> I tried rebooting but its still there.[/color][/color]

ref: email stuck in windows mail !-i have had this happen twice--my solution
is to go into program files-select WINDOWS MAIL-then select -WINMAIL---right
click your mouse and delete the file--it will solve your problem--and vista
will automatically reinstall the file--thx--Jim-Daventry uk

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
[color=blue]
> "BrianToronto" <BrianToronto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3BD5D314-97B7-40C9-B2F6-C1EEFF73A793@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > We just got our new laptop on Sunday with Windows Vista and I already have
> > an e-mail that is stuck in the inbox. Very frustrating, and disappointing
> > to
> > hear this is not a new problem, and they havne't done anything to correct
> > it.
> > We're going to switch back to Windows XP. Never had that problem on that
> > version.
> >
> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
> >> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if
> >> that
> >> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...
> >> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
> >> > properties
> >> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not
> >> > be
> >> > displayed, an error has occured.
> >> >
> >> > I tried rebooting but its still there.
> >>[/color][/color]
>
> If you are not willing to just ignore them, the only way is to delete both
> copies of the database (which does not contain the messages, but only
> references to them) and let WinMail rebuild it.
> First close WinMail, then use Task Manager to make sure there are no
> instances of it under applications or processes.
> Then click Start | Search | Advanced Search
> Check the box to include non-indexed, hidden and system files.
> In the Name field type WindowsMail.MSMessageStore and click the Search
> button.
> It should show you two copies. Delete both of them and re-open WinMail.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> Do not send mail.
>[/color]

That deletes the executable WinMail.exe.
I highly doubt that would fix anything.

Gary VanderMolen

"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7167D4FA-DF43-419A-AD2C-04138630833F@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> ref: email stuck in windows mail !-i have had this happen twice--my solution
> is to go into program files-select WINDOWS MAIL-then select -WINMAIL---right
> click your mouse and delete the file--it will solve your problem--and vista
> will automatically reinstall the file--thx--Jim-Daventry uk
>
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "BrianToronto" <BrianToronto@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3BD5D314-97B7-40C9-B2F6-C1EEFF73A793@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > We just got our new laptop on Sunday with Windows Vista and I already have
>> > an e-mail that is stuck in the inbox. Very frustrating, and disappointing
>> > to
>> > hear this is not a new problem, and they havne't done anything to correct
>> > it.
>> > We're going to switch back to Windows XP. Never had that problem on that
>> > version.
>> >
>> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >
>> >> There isn't a whole lot you can do if you can't delete it. You can try
>> >> using my WMUtil program to compact and repair the database and see if
>> >> that
>> >> helps. See [url]www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/[/url]
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>
>> >> "One-eyed Willie" <OneeyedWillie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:3508D4A4-8773-4AA7-BE25-F7BDCCC6AA7A@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I can't delete it, send it, move it, cut it... when I right click for
>> >> > properties
>> >> > it gives me an error message- the properties of this message could not
>> >> > be
>> >> > displayed, an error has occured.
>> >> >
>> >> > I tried rebooting but its still there.
>> >>[/color]
>>
>> If you are not willing to just ignore them, the only way is to delete both
>> copies of the database (which does not contain the messages, but only
>> references to them) and let WinMail rebuild it.
>> First close WinMail, then use Task Manager to make sure there are no
>> instances of it under applications or processes.
>> Then click Start | Search | Advanced Search
>> Check the box to include non-indexed, hidden and system files.
>> In the Name field type WindowsMail.MSMessageStore and click the Search
>> button.
>> It should show you two copies. Delete both of them and re-open WinMail.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>> Do not send mail.
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