Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows vista
or service pack?
--
Matt

Hi,

There is not even so much as a discussion of this going on. I think that
next (after longhorn server goes mainstream), MS will be concentrating its
considerable resources on SP3 for XP and server 2K3. Vista's first SP may
follow that. It certainly won't be anytime soon.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]

"Matty20" <Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77305DCB-0412-4315-9FB1-206927667266@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows
> vista
> or service pack?
> --
> Matt[/color]

When it is ready.

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"Matty20" <Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77305DCB-0412-4315-9FB1-206927667266@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows
> vista
> or service pack?
> --
> Matt[/color]

Wrong.

The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"

That's been stated over and over again.

Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting :(


"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:#Yeni67UHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> There is not even so much as a discussion of this going on. I think that
> next (after longhorn server goes mainstream), MS will be concentrating its
> considerable resources on SP3 for XP and server 2K3. Vista's first SP may
> follow that. It certainly won't be anytime soon.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>
> "Matty20" <Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:77305DCB-0412-4315-9FB1-206927667266@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows
>> vista
>> or service pack?
>> --
>> Matt[/color]
>[/color]

What's said over and over and what actually happens are often two different
things.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]

"Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:BD19D21C-B1E2-4363-A4B0-7C39A71B9DE9@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Wrong.
>
> The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"
>
> That's been stated over and over again.
>
> Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting :(
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:#Yeni67UHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hi,
>>
>> There is not even so much as a discussion of this going on. I think that
>> next (after longhorn server goes mainstream), MS will be concentrating
>> its considerable resources on SP3 for XP and server 2K3. Vista's first SP
>> may follow that. It certainly won't be anytime soon.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>
>> "Matty20" <Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:77305DCB-0412-4315-9FB1-206927667266@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows
>>> vista
>>> or service pack?
>>> --
>>> Matt[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

Vista SP1 will not appear prior to Q3-07. Or so I've been told...

Lang

"Matty20" <Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77305DCB-0412-4315-9FB1-206927667266@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows
> vista
> or service pack?
> --
> Matt[/color]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:14:00 -0800, Matty20
<Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> spake thusly:
[color=blue]
>Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows vista
>or service pack?[/color]

[url]http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=vista+service+pack+date[/url]
--
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

This one isn't a question though.

The SP for Vista will be released at launch of Server.

It will bring the codebases back into line with one another for some simple
reasons.

Once they get the codebase back in line then fixes will be simpler and will
be easier to deploy across the spectrum of products.

Also new SP's can be released simultaneously which will save cost/time for
business and make rollouts less of a headache.

I'm not guessing on this, this is solid info.


"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uVywML9UHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> What's said over and over and what actually happens are often two
> different things.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>
> "Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:BD19D21C-B1E2-4363-A4B0-7C39A71B9DE9@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Wrong.
>>
>> The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"
>>
>> That's been stated over and over again.
>>
>> Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting :(
>>
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:#Yeni67UHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There is not even so much as a discussion of this going on. I think that
>>> next (after longhorn server goes mainstream), MS will be concentrating
>>> its considerable resources on SP3 for XP and server 2K3. Vista's first
>>> SP may follow that. It certainly won't be anytime soon.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>>
>>> "Matty20" <Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:77305DCB-0412-4315-9FB1-206927667266@microsoft.com...
>>>> Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows
>>>> vista
>>>> or service pack?
>>>> --
>>>> Matt
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

Hi Shane,

I know what was said, I just don't place a lot of stock in it. I also know
that many releases do not happen as predicted for any number of reasons, and
unscheduled delays are quite common (think: winfs). To say with absolute
certainty that this will happen as planned is not a bet I would make or
take.

And if I'm wrong, it's probably a good thing.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]

"Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:CC21E979-0956-404F-8FFD-8C18BEF5D662@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> This one isn't a question though.
>
> The SP for Vista will be released at launch of Server.
>
> It will bring the codebases back into line with one another for some
> simple reasons.
>
> Once they get the codebase back in line then fixes will be simpler and
> will be easier to deploy across the spectrum of products.
>
> Also new SP's can be released simultaneously which will save cost/time for
> business and make rollouts less of a headache.
>
> I'm not guessing on this, this is solid info.
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uVywML9UHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> What's said over and over and what actually happens are often two
>> different things.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>
>> "Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:BD19D21C-B1E2-4363-A4B0-7C39A71B9DE9@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>> The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"
>>>
>>> That's been stated over and over again.
>>>
>>> Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting :(
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:#Yeni67UHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> There is not even so much as a discussion of this going on. I think
>>>> that next (after longhorn server goes mainstream), MS will be
>>>> concentrating its considerable resources on SP3 for XP and server 2K3.
>>>> Vista's first SP may follow that. It certainly won't be anytime soon.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>>>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>>>
>>>> "Matty20" <Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:77305DCB-0412-4315-9FB1-206927667266@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows
>>>>> vista
>>>>> or service pack?
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matt
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

I have heard that many times.
But, AFAIK it is a rumor, a seemingly good rumor, but a rumor just the same.
Please post the source for the statement you make as fact.
It is possible I missed the source.

--
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[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:BD19D21C-B1E2-4363-A4B0-7C39A71B9DE9@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Wrong.
>
> The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"
>
> That's been stated over and over again.
>
> Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting :([/color]

What is the question is the source.
What is your source?

"That's been stated over and over again"
That is not a source and does not make it fact.

"this is solid info"
From where?
Who said it?

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:CC21E979-0956-404F-8FFD-8C18BEF5D662@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> This one isn't a question though.
>
> The SP for Vista will be released at launch of Server.
>
> It will bring the codebases back into line with one another for some
> simple reasons.
>
> Once they get the codebase back in line then fixes will be simpler and
> will be easier to deploy across the spectrum of products.
>
> Also new SP's can be released simultaneously which will save cost/time for
> business and make rollouts less of a headache.
>
> I'm not guessing on this, this is solid info.
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uVywML9UHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> What's said over and over and what actually happens are often two
>> different things.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>
>> "Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:BD19D21C-B1E2-4363-A4B0-7C39A71B9DE9@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>> The SP will be released at the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn"
>>>
>>> That's been stated over and over again.
>>>
>>> Come on, you're an MVP at least do research before posting :(
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:#Yeni67UHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> There is not even so much as a discussion of this going on. I think
>>>> that next (after longhorn server goes mainstream), MS will be
>>>> concentrating its considerable resources on SP3 for XP and server 2K3.
>>>> Vista's first SP may follow that. It certainly won't be anytime soon.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>> [url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
>>>> Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]
>>>>
>>>> "Matty20" <Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:77305DCB-0412-4315-9FB1-206927667266@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows
>>>>> vista
>>>>> or service pack?
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matt
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

BTW...
I believe this rumor to be true.
But since I have not seen any official source from within Microsoft verify
the information, I treat is as a rumor.
Quite regularly Microsoft gets blamed for missing a date when Microsoft made
no such commitment.
Rumors lead some to believe it to be fact and they then complain when
Microsoft missed something Microsoft never claimed to begin with.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:%23UK89lEVHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> What is the question is the source.
> What is your source?
>
> "That's been stated over and over again"
> That is not a source and does not make it fact.
>
> "this is solid info"
> From where?
> Who said it?
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>
>
> "Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:CC21E979-0956-404F-8FFD-8C18BEF5D662@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> This one isn't a question though.
>>
>> The SP for Vista will be released at launch of Server.
>>
>> It will bring the codebases back into line with one another for some
>> simple reasons.
>>
>> Once they get the codebase back in line then fixes will be simpler and
>> will be easier to deploy across the spectrum of products.
>>
>> Also new SP's can be released simultaneously which will save cost/time
>> for business and make rollouts less of a headache.
>>
>> I'm not guessing on this, this is solid info.[/color][/color]

My source is actual team members from campus.

I live about an hour south of Redmond and I'm up there at least 3 or 4 times
a year.

This has been stated to me that they will release SP1 at the same time they
rollout the new server.

It's not something they plan on doing it is what will happen. Server will
only be released when they feel it is of high enough quality. By it's very
nature a server OS must be 100% rock solid. That codebase will then be used
to form the service pack.

So yes Fiji will be out this year at the same time as Server.

I can't name names in the public NG, but I will say one of the SDE in
Test/Shell guys is the one who told more than one of us about it while I was
up there for meetings.


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:#BldRtEVHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> BTW...
> I believe this rumor to be true.
> But since I have not seen any official source from within Microsoft verify
> the information, I treat is as a rumor.
> Quite regularly Microsoft gets blamed for missing a date when Microsoft
> made no such commitment.
> Rumors lead some to believe it to be fact and they then complain when
> Microsoft missed something Microsoft never claimed to begin with.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23UK89lEVHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> What is the question is the source.
>> What is your source?
>>
>> "That's been stated over and over again"
>> That is not a source and does not make it fact.
>>
>> "this is solid info"
>> From where?
>> Who said it?
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
>> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>>
>>
>> "Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:CC21E979-0956-404F-8FFD-8C18BEF5D662@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> This one isn't a question though.
>>>
>>> The SP for Vista will be released at launch of Server.
>>>
>>> It will bring the codebases back into line with one another for some
>>> simple reasons.
>>>
>>> Once they get the codebase back in line then fixes will be simpler and
>>> will be easier to deploy across the spectrum of products.
>>>
>>> Also new SP's can be released simultaneously which will save cost/time
>>> for business and make rollouts less of a headache.
>>>
>>> I'm not guessing on this, this is solid info.[/color][/color]
>[/color]

Without verifiable names etc it is hearsay.
Since I do not know your anonymous source, what you say has the validity of
a rumor to me.
And I have heard a lot of rumors.

When I get information directly from Microsoft or any other source about
anything for that matter, I do not expect others to take it as fact from me
if I an unwilling or unable to cite the specific source.

Without such a verifiable cite I do not take such information as fact.
Otherwise I would have had to do the same a few months ago when a person
claimed his high level contact at Microsoft said Vista would not be
publically released 30 January.
Of course we know that reliable source was all wrong.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:2F609E8B-A16D-450E-B471-684D1EC9DFD5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> My source is actual team members from campus.
>
> I live about an hour south of Redmond and I'm up there at least 3 or 4
> times a year.
>
> This has been stated to me that they will release SP1 at the same time
> they rollout the new server.
>
> It's not something they plan on doing it is what will happen. Server will
> only be released when they feel it is of high enough quality. By it's
> very nature a server OS must be 100% rock solid. That codebase will then
> be used to form the service pack.
>
> So yes Fiji will be out this year at the same time as Server.
>
> I can't name names in the public NG, but I will say one of the SDE in
> Test/Shell guys is the one who told more than one of us about it while I
> was up there for meetings.
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:#BldRtEVHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> BTW...
>> I believe this rumor to be true.
>> But since I have not seen any official source from within Microsoft
>> verify the information, I treat is as a rumor.
>> Quite regularly Microsoft gets blamed for missing a date when Microsoft
>> made no such commitment.
>> Rumors lead some to believe it to be fact and they then complain when
>> Microsoft missed something Microsoft never claimed to begin with.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
>> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>>
>>
>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23UK89lEVHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> What is the question is the source.
>>> What is your source?
>>>
>>> "That's been stated over and over again"
>>> That is not a source and does not make it fact.
>>>
>>> "this is solid info"
>>> From where?
>>> Who said it?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
>>> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Shane Nokes" <Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:CC21E979-0956-404F-8FFD-8C18BEF5D662@microsoft.com...
>>>> This one isn't a question though.
>>>>
>>>> The SP for Vista will be released at launch of Server.
>>>>
>>>> It will bring the codebases back into line with one another for some
>>>> simple reasons.
>>>>
>>>> Once they get the codebase back in line then fixes will be simpler and
>>>> will be easier to deploy across the spectrum of products.
>>>>
>>>> Also new SP's can be released simultaneously which will save cost/time
>>>> for business and make rollouts less of a headache.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not guessing on this, this is solid info.[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:14:00 -0800, Matty20
<Matty20@discussions.microsoft.com> spake thusly:
[color=blue]
>Does anyone know when microsoft will release a 2nd release of windows vista
>or service pack?[/color]

Nobody knows but the estimates I've read indicate the end of 2007.

Google it.

--
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?