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Old 04-04-2007, 12:45 PM
greyman
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

Any solutions to this problem yet??

Thanks.

On Mar 20, 11:41 pm, Darre...@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell
Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello Ronen,
> we understand the issue however we do not have a solution yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
> |>From: "Ronen Zakay" <Ron...@online.sitqad.co.il>
> |>References: <3E70009B-E1A6-4948-84FE-A66BABECE...@microsoft.com>
> <#s5##mKXHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
> <OtSPdyLXHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
> <1173039303.224224.184...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>
> |>In-Reply-To: <1173039303.224224.184...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>
> |>Subject: Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search
> manually (each time) to System32.. help...
> |>Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:16:19 +0200
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> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>
> |>Dose anyone have a solution for this?
> |>
> |>|>"greyman" <ejunksg...******.com> wrote in message
>
> |>news:1173039303.224224.184380@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> |>> Hello all...
> |>>
> |>> This exactly is the problem that I have been experiencing ever since I
> |>> installed vista rtm..(no prob in rc1)
> |>>
> |>> The automatic driver installation thing seems to be working fine for
> |>> quite few days...but after some time...it doesnt do auto installation
> |>> of other hardwares like different flash drives...
> |>>
> |>> I have been screaming for this for quite some time in other
> |>> forums...but noone else replied...this is the first time that some
> |>> people are reporting of this error..
> |>>
> |>> Dont know what the hell is going on with this error...
> |>>
> |>> but now really happy to know that i am not alone...and collectively
> |>> can solve this problem(hopefully)
> |>>
> |>> If any solution known...please share it here..
> |>>
> |>> Thanks
> |>>
> |>> Regards.
> |>>
> |>>
> |>> On Mar 2, 4:18 pm, "William Dowell"|>> <william(((>>>>>((dow...******.com> wrote:
>
> |>>> hi ive not heard back ive sent files to darrel but got a message from
> his
> |>>> account saying he was out of the office"Ronen Zakay"|>>> <Ron...@sitqad.co.il> wrote in message
>
> |>>>
> |>>>news:%23s5%23%23mKXHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |>>>
> |>>> > Hi william,
> |>>>
> |>>> > I am having the same problems, did you ever solve it ?
> |>>>
> |>>> > thx,
> |>>> > Ronen
> |>>>
> |>>> > "William Dowell >>>> ((dow...******.com>)" <william(((> wrote in
> |>>> > message
> |>>> >news:3E70009B-E1A6-4948-84FE-A66BABECE26A@microsoft.com...
> |>>> >> Hello,
> |>>>
> |>>> >> Firstly, i apologise if this is the "wrong" news thread - i have
> tried
> |>>> >> a
> |>>> >> few, but to no avail. If this is the incorrect one, please please
> |>>> >> don't
> |>>> >> just say it is the wrong one, but point me to the right one!
> |>>>
> |>>> >> Now, myproblem:
> |>>> >> (I'm using RTM version of WindowsVista- business).
> |>>>
> |>>> >> It all worked fine for about a week or so, detecting all devices
> |>>> >> plugged
> |>>> >> in (and i have to say, was mightily impressed withdriversupport..)
> |>>>
> |>>> >> Until.. these last few days...
> |>>>
> |>>> >> Whenever I add a hardware device - from basic things of External
> HDD,
> |>>> >> camera
> |>>> >> or USB keys etc, thedriversearch fails, and asks for a manual
> |>>> >> location..
> |>>> >> Same goes for hubs. All items. Now, I KNOWVistahas all of this
> |>>> >> built in - because you just tell it, each time, to go to System 32
> |>>> >> folder, and it
> |>>> >> finds the mass-storage / or otherdriver, noproblem.
> |>>>
> |>>> >> However EVERYTIME i add something new it does this. This didn't
> happen
> |>>> >> when i
> |>>> >> first installedVista, and its a horrible experience. I want it back
> |>>> >> automatically installing!
> |>>>
> |>>> >> I was a tester for WindowsVistafor I can't even remember how long -
> |>>> >> and
> |>>> >> never seen this before..
> |>>>
> |>>> >> Is there a fix for this / Re-set something in the registry? It's
> |>>> >> driving
> |>>> >> me
> |>>> >> insane! And, everyone who sees my lovelyVistalaptop goes "wow" and
> |>>> >> then
> |>>> >> plugs in their USB Key, and goes "ohhh... oh yes, they said on the
> |>>> >> news
> |>>> >> it was full of problems"!!! - I don't like that, as its not fair to
> |>>> >> Microsoft, so... any solution, please... and I can assure you it
> will
> |>>> >> get my friends / colleagues in the shops for a start!
> |>>>
> |>>> >> Kind regards, and thanks in advance to the genius who can sort this
> |>>> >> out
> |>>> >> for me :-)
> |>>>
> |>>> >> William
> |>>
> |>>
> |>
> |>[/color]


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Old 04-04-2007, 12:45 PM
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:45 PM
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

Hello,
We are looking into generating a fix to resolve the issue. It has not been
created yet.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
--------------------
|>From: "greyman" <ejunksgrey******.com>
|>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
|>Subject: Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search
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|>Date: 4 Apr 2007 12:40:03 -0700
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|>Any solutions to this problem yet??
|>
|>Thanks.
|>
|>On Mar 20, 11:41 pm, Darre...@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell
|>Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:
|>> Hello Ronen,
|>> we understand the issue however we do not have a solution yet.
|>>
|>> Thanks,
|>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
|>>
|>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights
|>> --------------------
|>> |>From: "Ronen Zakay" <Ron...@online.sitqad.co.il>
|>> |>References: <3E70009B-E1A6-4948-84FE-A66BABECE...@microsoft.com>
|>> <#s5##mKXHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
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|>> <1173039303.224224.184...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>
|>> |>In-Reply-To: <1173039303.224224.184...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>
|>> |>Subject: Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the
search
|>> manually (each time) to System32.. help...
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|>> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
|>> |>
|>> |>Dose anyone have a solution for this?
|>> |>
|>> |>|>"greyman" <ejunksg...******.com> wrote in message
|>>
|>> |>news:1173039303.224224.184380@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
|>> |>> Hello all...
|>> |>>
|>> |>> This exactly is the problem that I have been experiencing ever
since I
|>> |>> installed vista rtm..(no prob in rc1)
|>> |>>
|>> |>> The automatic driver installation thing seems to be working fine for
|>> |>> quite few days...but after some time...it doesnt do auto
installation
|>> |>> of other hardwares like different flash drives...
|>> |>>
|>> |>> I have been screaming for this for quite some time in other
|>> |>> forums...but noone else replied...this is the first time that some
|>> |>> people are reporting of this error..
|>> |>>
|>> |>> Dont know what the hell is going on with this error...
|>> |>>
|>> |>> but now really happy to know that i am not alone...and collectively
|>> |>> can solve this problem(hopefully)
|>> |>>
|>> |>> If any solution known...please share it here..
|>> |>>
|>> |>> Thanks
|>> |>>
|>> |>> Regards.
|>> |>>
|>> |>>
|>> |>> On Mar 2, 4:18 pm, "William Dowell"|>>
<william(((>>>>>((dow...******.com> wrote:
|>>
|>> |>>> hi ive not heard back ive sent files to darrel but got a message
from
|>> his
|>> |>>> account saying he was out of the office"Ronen Zakay"|>>>
<Ron...@sitqad.co.il> wrote in message
|>>
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>>news:%23s5%23%23mKXHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> > Hi william,
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> > I am having the same problems, did you ever solve it ?
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> > thx,
|>> |>>> > Ronen
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> > "William Dowell >>>> ((dow...******.com>)" <william(((> wrote in
|>> |>>> > message
|>> |>>> >news:3E70009B-E1A6-4948-84FE-A66BABECE26A@microsoft.com...
|>> |>>> >> Hello,
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> Firstly, i apologise if this is the "wrong" news thread - i have
|>> tried
|>> |>>> >> a
|>> |>>> >> few, but to no avail. If this is the incorrect one, please
please
|>> |>>> >> don't
|>> |>>> >> just say it is the wrong one, but point me to the right one!
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> Now, myproblem:
|>> |>>> >> (I'm using RTM version of WindowsVista- business).
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> It all worked fine for about a week or so, detecting all devices
|>> |>>> >> plugged
|>> |>>> >> in (and i have to say, was mightily impressed
withdriversupport..)
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> Until.. these last few days...
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> Whenever I add a hardware device - from basic things of External
|>> HDD,
|>> |>>> >> camera
|>> |>>> >> or USB keys etc, thedriversearch fails, and asks for a manual
|>> |>>> >> location..
|>> |>>> >> Same goes for hubs. All items. Now, I KNOWVistahas all of this
|>> |>>> >> built in - because you just tell it, each time, to go to System
32
|>> |>>> >> folder, and it
|>> |>>> >> finds the mass-storage / or otherdriver, noproblem.
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> However EVERYTIME i add something new it does this. This didn't
|>> happen
|>> |>>> >> when i
|>> |>>> >> first installedVista, and its a horrible experience. I want it
back
|>> |>>> >> automatically installing!
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> I was a tester for WindowsVistafor I can't even remember how
long -
|>> |>>> >> and
|>> |>>> >> never seen this before..
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> Is there a fix for this / Re-set something in the registry? It's
|>> |>>> >> driving
|>> |>>> >> me
|>> |>>> >> insane! And, everyone who sees my lovelyVistalaptop goes "wow"
and
|>> |>>> >> then
|>> |>>> >> plugs in their USB Key, and goes "ohhh... oh yes, they said on
the
|>> |>>> >> news
|>> |>>> >> it was full of problems"!!! - I don't like that, as its not
fair to
|>> |>>> >> Microsoft, so... any solution, please... and I can assure you
it
|>> will
|>> |>>> >> get my friends / colleagues in the shops for a start!
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> Kind regards, and thanks in advance to the genius who can sort
this
|>> |>>> >> out
|>> |>>> >> for me :-)
|>> |>>>
|>> |>>> >> William
|>> |>>
|>> |>>
|>> |>
|>> |>
|>
|>
|>

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Old 04-06-2007, 04:00 AM
florre@dimmid.de
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

Hello Mates!

Here the solution:

1. go to the C:\Windows\Inf and delete the file INFCACHE.1
2. if you cant delete this file you have to get the rights for it -
hmm I don't know it in English - you have to be the "owner" of the
file
3. Than restart the machine, and voila it works again!

Best regards form sunny Germany (Blackforest)


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Old 04-06-2007, 03:00 PM
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

Hello,
That resolution has some issues and can cause other problems, so it's not
really a great resolution.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
--------------------
|>From: [email]florre@dimmid.de[/email]
|>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
|>Subject: Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search
manually (each time) to System32.. help...
|>Date: 6 Apr 2007 03:49:30 -0700
|>Organization: [url]http://groups.google.com[/url]
|>Lines: 13
|>Message-ID: <1175856570.351823.70740@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
|>References: <3E70009B-E1A6-4948-84FE-A66BABECE26A@microsoft.com>
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|>Hello Mates!
|>
|>Here the solution:
|>
|>1. go to the C:\Windows\Inf and delete the file INFCACHE.1
|>2. if you cant delete this file you have to get the rights for it -
|>hmm I don't know it in English - you have to be the "owner" of the
|>file
|>3. Than restart the machine, and voila it works again!
|>
|>Best regards form sunny Germany (Blackforest)
|>
|>
|>

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Old 04-07-2007, 02:16 AM
florre@dimmid.de
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

On 6 Apr., 23:45, Darre...@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell
Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello,
> That resolution has some issues and can cause other problems, so it's not
> really a great resolution.
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>[/color]

So which kinds of problems does this resolution have?!

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Old 04-12-2007, 03:30 AM
greyman
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

Yes,please tell what other problems might arise if this solution is
not the proper one.
Or tell what the file"INFCACHE.1" is intended there for??

Thanks.

On Apr 7, 2:45 am, Darre...@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell
Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello,
> That resolution has some issues and can cause other problems, so it's not
> really a great resolution.
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
> |>From: flo...@dimmid.de
> |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>Subject: Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search
> manually (each time) to System32.. help...
> |>Date: 6 Apr 2007 03:49:30 -0700
> |>Organization:[url]http://groups.google.com[/url]
> |>Lines: 13
> |>Message-ID: <1175856570.351823.70...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
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> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>
> |>Hello Mates!
> |>
> |>Here the solution:
> |>
> |>1. go to the C:\Windows\Inf and delete the file INFCACHE.1
> |>2. if you cant delete this file you have to get the rights for it -
> |>hmm I don't know it in English - you have to be the "owner" of the
> |>file
> |>3. Than restart the machine, and voila it works again!
> |>
> |>Best regards form sunny Germany (Blackforest)
> |>
> |>
> |>[/color]


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Old 04-12-2007, 10:45 AM
greyman
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

The deletion of "INFCACHE.1" does really work...good find,
'flo...@dimmid.de ' :)
But as pointed out by "Darrell Gorter[MSFT]",that it can cause other
probems....what these problems can be ??



On Apr 12, 3:23 pm, "greyman" <ejunksg...******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Yes,please tell what other problems might arise if this solution is
> not the proper one.
> Or tell what the file"INFCACHE.1" is intended there for??
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Apr 7, 2:45 am, Darre...@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell
>
> Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:[color=green]
> > Hello,
> > That resolution has some issues and can cause other problems, so it's not
> > really a great resolution.
> > Thanks,
> > Darrell Gorter[MSFT][/color]
>[color=green]
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> > --------------------
> > |>From: flo...@dimmid.de
> > |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> > |>Subject: Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search
> > manually (each time) to System32.. help...
> > |>Date: 6 Apr 2007 03:49:30 -0700
> > |>Organization:[url]http://groups.google.com[/url]
> > |>Lines: 13
> > |>Message-ID: <1175856570.351823.70...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
> > |>References: <3E70009B-E1A6-4948-84FE-A66BABECE...@microsoft.com>
> > |> <1175715603.417077.130...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> > |> <jOwceowdHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl>
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> > 10:49:31 GMT)
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> > |>User-Agent: G2/1.0
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> > |> posting-account=ZHlJwg0AAAD5P_tJIlSaM5UXEaj7wWg3
> > |>Path:
> > TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!news-out**.
> > cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!nx01.iad0**1
> > .newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.196.98.140.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca.g**i
> > ganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.co**m
> > !not-for-mail
> > |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:78120
> > |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> > |>
> > |>Hello Mates!
> > |>
> > |>Here the solution:
> > |>
> > |>1. go to the C:\Windows\Inf and delete the file INFCACHE.1
> > |>2. if you cant delete this file you have to get the rights for it -
> > |>hmm I don't know it in English - you have to be the "owner" of the
> > |>file
> > |>3. Than restart the machine, and voila it works again!
> > |>
> > |>Best regards form sunny Germany (Blackforest)
> > |>
> > |>
> > |>[/color][/color]


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Old 04-18-2007, 09:00 AM
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

Has there been a fix for this yet? I have the same problem. I have to
tell it to manually install, point it to C:\Windows\System32, then it
installs drivers, but for something like bluetooth or a usb device, it
has to do it every time.

How do I delete this INFCACHE.1 file? I can't seem to do it, even from
an elevated command prompt.

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Old 04-18-2007, 09:15 AM
Justin
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"thosj" <thosj1******.com> wrote in message
news:1176911125.483104.166450@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Has there been a fix for this yet? I have the same problem. I have to
> tell it to manually install, point it to C:\Windows\System32, then it
> installs drivers, but for something like bluetooth or a usb device, it
> has to do it every time.
>
> How do I delete this INFCACHE.1 file? I can't seem to do it, even from
> an elevated command prompt.[/color]

You can probably delete the file while using safe mode - command prompt.

However, I believe deleting the file will do you no good. That file is
there for a reason and when you search for a driver again it will re-appear.

Is this file in any place besides the INF folder in your SystemRoot? If so
then check this regkey and remove everything but "%SystemRoot%\inf":

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DevicePath

Then you can delete the file and it should not come back. If it does then
check the regkey again. If the regkey updates again then you have an
offending app/process that is causing this issue.

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Old 04-18-2007, 11:15 AM
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

On Apr 18, 11:03 am, "Justin" <N...@None.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> "thosj" <tho...******.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176911125.483104.166450@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>[color=green]
> > Has there been a fix for this yet? I have the same problem. I have to
> > tell it to manually install, point it to C:\Windows\System32, then it
> > installs drivers, but for something like bluetooth or a usb device, it
> > has to do it every time.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > How do I delete this INFCACHE.1 file? I can't seem to do it, even from
> > an elevated command prompt.[/color]
>
> You can probably delete the file while using safe mode - command prompt.
>
> However, I believe deleting the file will do you no good. That file is
> there for a reason and when you search for a driver again it will re-appear.
>
> Is this file in any place besides the INF folder in your SystemRoot? If so
> then check this regkey and remove everything but "%SystemRoot%\inf":
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DevicePath
>
> Then you can delete the file and it should not come back. If it does then
> check the regkey again. If the regkey updates again then you have an
> offending app/process that is causing this issue.[/color]

I got the file deleted by taking ownership of it and changing the
properties for full control, then I could delete it. This move
immediately fixed my problem with my USB Bluetooth dongle, now when I
try to hook to a bluetooth device, it just works where before it would
try and install the driver every time and not do it. So........I'm
good, perhaps only until I try to install some other driver!

My HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
\DevicePath only has "%SystemRoot%\inf" and I can find NO instances of
INFCACHE.1 anywhere. If one comes back when something needs a driver,
we'll deal with it at that time!! For now, I'm good.

A week or so ago I had a problem with CD and DVD RW type drives not
having a driver in Device Manager. They wouldn't install when the
system booted and just showed as CD-ROM in Explorer, in Device Manager
they showed no driver!! I had to manual install, pointing to C:\Windows
\System32 to get them to install. This is all related somehow, I
believe. But as I said, all is good FOR NOW!

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Old 04-18-2007, 11:45 PM
greyman
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

Well i recently installed vista again from scratch...and initially
since this problem doesnt persists,i checked the INFCACHE.1 file,and
its size was 1636 KB !

and when the problem arises ,its size is 1KB...

so in my logic...the problem comes when the driver details from that
file gets deleted by unknown means so that its size goes down to
1KB...

this problem is so basic...how did microsoft didnt encountered this
error while in beta???


On Apr 18, 10:57 pm, thosj <tho...******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Apr 18, 11:03 am, "Justin" <N...@None.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>[color=green]
> > "thosj" <tho...******.com> wrote in message[/color]
>[color=green]
> >news:1176911125.483104.166450@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > Has there been a fix for this yet? I have the same problem. I have to
> > > tell it to manually install, point it to C:\Windows\System32, then it
> > > installs drivers, but for something like bluetooth or a usb device, it
> > > has to do it every time.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > How do I delete this INFCACHE.1 file? I can't seem to do it, even from
> > > an elevated command prompt.[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> > You can probably delete the file while using safe mode - command prompt.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > However, I believe deleting the file will do you no good. That file is
> > there for a reason and when you search for a driver again it will re-appear.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Is this file in any place besides the INF folder in your SystemRoot? If so
> > then check this regkey and remove everything but "%SystemRoot%\inf":[/color]
>[color=green]
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DevicePath[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Then you can delete the file and it should not come back. If it does then
> > check the regkey again. If the regkey updates again then you have an
> > offending app/process that is causing this issue.[/color]
>
> I got the file deleted by taking ownership of it and changing the
> properties for full control, then I could delete it. This move
> immediately fixed my problem with my USB Bluetooth dongle, now when I
> try to hook to a bluetooth device, it just works where before it would
> try and install the driver every time and not do it. So........I'm
> good, perhaps only until I try to install some other driver!
>
> My HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
> \DevicePath only has "%SystemRoot%\inf" and I can find NO instances of
> INFCACHE.1 anywhere. If one comes back when something needs a driver,
> we'll deal with it at that time!! For now, I'm good.
>
> A week or so ago I had a problem with CD and DVD RW type drives not
> having a driver in Device Manager. They wouldn't install when the
> system booted and just showed as CD-ROM in Explorer, in Device Manager
> they showed no driver!! I had to manual install, pointing to C:\Windows
> \System32 to get them to install. This is all related somehow, I
> believe. But as I said, all is good FOR NOW!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -[/color]


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Old 04-19-2007, 09:00 AM
Justin
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

"greyman" <ejunksgrey******.com> wrote in message
news:1176964400.764153.23100@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Well i recently installed vista again from scratch...and initially
> since this problem doesnt persists,i checked the INFCACHE.1 file,and
> its size was 1636 KB !
>
> and when the problem arises ,its size is 1KB...
>
> so in my logic...the problem comes when the driver details from that
> file gets deleted by unknown means so that its size goes down to
> 1KB...
>
> this problem is so basic...how did microsoft didnt encountered this
> error while in beta???[/color]

I just checked the old beta NG and I can't find any mention of this issue.
It wasn't found because it wasn't a problem to anyone on the beta. At
least, nothing that was reported. Out of plain curiosity I've been keeping
a watchful eye on that file. The only time it changed was when I updated my
video card driver yesterday.

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Old 04-20-2007, 12:45 PM
thosj
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

I see basically the same thing. On another Vista computer without the
problem, INFCACHE.1 is 1.6x MB, on the computer WITH the problem, it
is 4k. I copied the file to a different location before deleting it,
so I know this for sure. Somehow this file gets corrupt.

I WON'T be attempting to copy the one from the good computer to the
one where the problem was, however!! If INFCACHE.1 gets created when
something tries to install a driver, we'll see what happens!

On Apr 19, 1:33 am, greyman <ejunksg...******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Well i recently installed vista again from scratch...and initially
> since this problem doesnt persists,i checked the INFCACHE.1 file,and
> its size was 1636 KB !
>
> and when the problem arises ,its size is 1KB...
>
> so in my logic...the problem comes when the driver details from that
> file gets deleted by unknown means so that its size goes down to
> 1KB...
>
> this problem is so basic...how did microsoft didnt encountered this
> error while in beta???
>[/color]

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Old 04-26-2007, 01:15 PM
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search manually (each time) to System32.. help...

On Apr 19, 2:33 am, greyman <ejunksg...******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Well i recently installed vista again from scratch...and initially
> since this problem doesnt persists,i checked the INFCACHE.1 file,and
> its size was 1636 KB !
>
> and when the problem arises ,its size is 1KB...
>
> so in my logic...the problem comes when the driver details from that
> file gets deleted by unknown means so that its size goes down to
> 1KB...
>
> this problem is so basic...how did microsoft didnt encountered this
> error while in beta???
>
> It may help to substitude the "original" INFCACHE.1 file for the corrupted one. Any chance we can get a copy to try it?[/color]

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Old 06-02-2007, 09:00 AM
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Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search man

Hi there, One minute it installs my speedtouch modem and the next minute it
won't, same problem with my digital camera, won't install the disk and the
same with my mobile phone disk, but it did install my epson printer, how
weird. Does anyone know what i can do so i don't have to buy a new hp
digital camera?

""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hello,
> We are looking into generating a fix to resolve the issue. It has not been
> created yet.
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
> |>From: "greyman" <ejunksgrey******.com>
> |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>Subject: Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the search
> manually (each time) to System32.. help...
> |>Date: 4 Apr 2007 12:40:03 -0700
> |>Organization: [url]http://groups.google.com[/url]
> |>Lines: 151
> |>Message-ID: <1175715603.417077.130580@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
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> |> posting-account=HHLSeg0AAADXN3HYPgpbAX5tcz2a9eqP
> |>Path:
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> cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!border1.nn
> tp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!b75g2000hsg.google
> groups.com!not-for-mail
> |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:76892
> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>
> |>Any solutions to this problem yet??
> |>
> |>Thanks.
> |>
> |>On Mar 20, 11:41 pm, Darre...@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell
> |>Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:
> |>> Hello Ronen,
> |>> we understand the issue however we do not have a solution yet.
> |>>
> |>> Thanks,
> |>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
> |>>
> |>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights
> |>> --------------------
> |>> |>From: "Ronen Zakay" <Ron...@online.sitqad.co.il>
> |>> |>References: <3E70009B-E1A6-4948-84FE-A66BABECE...@microsoft.com>
> |>> <#s5##mKXHHA.4...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
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> |>> |>In-Reply-To: <1173039303.224224.184...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>
> |>> |>Subject: Re: Driver search fails everytime - and have to set the
> search
> |>> manually (each time) to System32.. help...
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> |>> |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:66351
> |>> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>> |>
> |>> |>Dose anyone have a solution for this?
> |>> |>
> |>> |>|>"greyman" <ejunksg...******.com> wrote in message
> |>>
> |>> |>news:1173039303.224224.184380@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> |>> |>> Hello all...
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> This exactly is the problem that I have been experiencing ever
> since I
> |>> |>> installed vista rtm..(no prob in rc1)
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> The automatic driver installation thing seems to be working fine for
> |>> |>> quite few days...but after some time...it doesnt do auto
> installation
> |>> |>> of other hardwares like different flash drives...
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> I have been screaming for this for quite some time in other
> |>> |>> forums...but noone else replied...this is the first time that some
> |>> |>> people are reporting of this error..
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> Dont know what the hell is going on with this error...
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> but now really happy to know that i am not alone...and collectively
> |>> |>> can solve this problem(hopefully)
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> If any solution known...please share it here..
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> Thanks
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> Regards.
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>> On Mar 2, 4:18 pm, "William Dowell"|>>
> <william(((>>>>>((dow...******.com> wrote:
> |>>
> |>> |>>> hi ive not heard back ive sent files to darrel but got a message
> from
> |>> his
> |>> |>>> account saying he was out of the office"Ronen Zakay"|>>>
> <Ron...@sitqad.co.il> wrote in message
> |>>
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>>news:%23s5%23%23mKXHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> > Hi william,
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> > I am having the same problems, did you ever solve it ?
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> > thx,
> |>> |>>> > Ronen
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> > "William Dowell >>>> ((dow...******.com>)" <william(((> wrote in
> |>> |>>> > message
> |>> |>>> >news:3E70009B-E1A6-4948-84FE-A66BABECE26A@microsoft.com...
> |>> |>>> >> Hello,
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> Firstly, i apologise if this is the "wrong" news thread - i have
> |>> tried
> |>> |>>> >> a
> |>> |>>> >> few, but to no avail. If this is the incorrect one, please
> please
> |>> |>>> >> don't
> |>> |>>> >> just say it is the wrong one, but point me to the right one!
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> Now, myproblem:
> |>> |>>> >> (I'm using RTM version of WindowsVista- business).
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> It all worked fine for about a week or so, detecting all devices
> |>> |>>> >> plugged
> |>> |>>> >> in (and i have to say, was mightily impressed
> withdriversupport..)
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> Until.. these last few days...
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> Whenever I add a hardware device - from basic things of External
> |>> HDD,
> |>> |>>> >> camera
> |>> |>>> >> or USB keys etc, thedriversearch fails, and asks for a manual
> |>> |>>> >> location..
> |>> |>>> >> Same goes for hubs. All items. Now, I KNOWVistahas all of this
> |>> |>>> >> built in - because you just tell it, each time, to go to System
> 32
> |>> |>>> >> folder, and it
> |>> |>>> >> finds the mass-storage / or otherdriver, noproblem.
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> However EVERYTIME i add something new it does this. This didn't
> |>> happen
> |>> |>>> >> when i
> |>> |>>> >> first installedVista, and its a horrible experience. I want it
> back
> |>> |>>> >> automatically installing!
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> I was a tester for WindowsVistafor I can't even remember how
> long -
> |>> |>>> >> and
> |>> |>>> >> never seen this before..
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> Is there a fix for this / Re-set something in the registry? It's
> |>> |>>> >> driving
> |>> |>>> >> me
> |>> |>>> >> insane! And, everyone who sees my lovelyVistalaptop goes "wow"
> and
> |>> |>>> >> then
> |>> |>>> >> plugs in their USB Key, and goes "ohhh... oh yes, they said on
> the
> |>> |>>> >> news
> |>> |>>> >> it was full of problems"!!! - I don't like that, as its not
> fair to
> |>> |>>> >> Microsoft, so... any solution, please... and I can assure you
> it
> |>> will
> |>> |>>> >> get my friends / colleagues in the shops for a start!
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> Kind regards, and thanks in advance to the genius who can sort
> this
> |>> |>>> >> out
> |>> |>>> >> for me :-)
> |>> |>>>
> |>> |>>> >> William
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>>
> |>> |>
> |>> |>
> |>
> |>
> |>
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