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Old 02-15-2007, 09:45 PM
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Removing Windows Vista

I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I can delete
it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how would I
go about doing it?
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

What exactly do you "hate" about Vista? Getting it on a new PC, I can only
assume you either have legacy software or hardware that doesn't work with
it.

Lang

"PH" <PH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FA01A908-91F4-4079-9F19-19AC360D9B4D@microsoft.com...
>I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
> pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I can
> delete
> it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how would
> I
> go about doing it?


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Old 02-15-2007, 09:47 PM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

I think if you gave it a chance, and used Help and Support and this group to
get help, you'd like it some more, but all you have to do to format it is to
take an XP CD and it will format it in setup, and like Vista it's a bootable
CD (the only exception being the volume license Vista upgrade DVD (from
Darrell Gorter [MSFT]/

The big question is do you have an XP CD? The reason I ask is because MSFT
has been shafting their customers for years by forcing the OEM named
partners (all 300 of 'em not to send an OS CD in XP or an OS DVD in Vista).
Dell has told MSFT to stuff it in Vista and says they are shipping a Vista
DVD.

It's no accident that OEM pre-installed sales is up 20% and Retail Sales has
been down 20% last two reporting quarters for MSFT according to their
financials.

Here are screen shots for installing XP when there is an existing OS on the
drive: I used screenshots from XP Home, because you didn't say which XP you
have. But it's the same.

http://www.windowsxphome.windowsrein...dhdd/index.htm

Good luck,

CH


"PH" <PH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
> pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I can
> delete
> it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how would
> I
> go about doing it?


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Old 02-15-2007, 10:00 PM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

Sure, stick in your XP CD and boot to it. When it asks, delete the
partition, recreate it and format it. Then finish the XP install and it's
all good.



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"PH" <PH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
> pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I can
> delete
> it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how would
> I
> go about doing it?


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Old 02-15-2007, 10:46 PM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

> Sure, stick in your XP CD and boot to it. When it asks, delete the
> partition, recreate it and format it. Then finish the XP install and it's
> all good.
>

He/she also will need drivers -- for the motherboard, video adapter,
sound, etc.




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Old 02-15-2007, 11:47 PM
Mamamegs
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

BSchnur has brought this to us :
>> Sure, stick in your XP CD and boot to it. When it asks, delete the
>> partition, recreate it and format it. Then finish the XP install and
>> it's all good.
>>

> He/she also will need drivers -- for the motherboard, video adapter,
> sound, etc.


???? :-?

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Old 02-16-2007, 12:02 AM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:29:08 -0800, PH <PH@discussions.microsoft.com>
spake thusly:

>I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
>pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I can delete
>it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how would I
>go about doing it?


The more time I spend with Vista the worse XP looks (not that I ever
was that fond of it to begin with).

Give Vista a chance. You'll be surprised.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:15 AM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

When you do a clean install of a operating system such as Windows XP
(and also Windows Vista), typically, the OS will have enough built in
drivers to get a basic install completed (exceptions would be support
for various SATA controllers including those embedded on the
motherboard).

Then, after the 'base install' is completed, you will need to install
hardware specific drivers, including the drivers specific to the
motherboard (sound, network adapter, USB 2.0 support, that sort of
thing), and the video adapter.




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Old 02-16-2007, 01:31 AM
Mamamegs
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

BSchnur expressed precisely :
> When you do a clean install of a operating system such as Windows XP
> (and also Windows Vista), typically, the OS will have enough built in
> drivers to get a basic install completed (exceptions would be support
> for various SATA controllers including those embedded on the
> motherboard).
>
> Then, after the 'base install' is completed, you will need to install
> hardware specific drivers, including the drivers specific to the
> motherboard (sound, network adapter, USB 2.0 support, that sort of
> thing), and the video adapter.


Ain't that stating the obvious? You made it sound as if he couldn't
install XP because it wouldn't have the right drivers...

<q>
>> Sure, stick in your XP CD and boot to it. When it asks, delete the
>> partition, recreate it and format it. Then finish the XP install and
>> it's all good.
>>

> He/she also will need drivers -- for the motherboard, video adapter,
> sound, etc.

</q>

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Old 02-16-2007, 02:31 AM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

"Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wisely advised:

> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:29:08 -0800, PH
> <PH@discussions.microsoft.com>
> spake thusly:
>
>>I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
>>pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I
>>can delete
>>it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how
>>would I
>>go about doing it?

>
> The more time I spend with Vista the worse XP looks (not that I ever
> was that fond of it to begin with).
>
> Give Vista a chance. You'll be surprised.


....if, yes if the 'new computer' has 1+ GB RAM and a graphics card
with WDDM driver;-)


rOy

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Old 02-16-2007, 06:32 AM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:18:39 +0100, "Roy Coorne"
<roy.spam.coorne@gmx.net> spake thusly:

>"Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wisely advised:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:29:08 -0800, PH
>> <PH@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> spake thusly:
>>
>>>I just bought a new computer that has Windows Vista Home Premium
>>>pre-installed on it...I hate this new Vista and want to know if I
>>>can delete
>>>it and install Xp on my computer. Is this possible??? If it is, how
>>>would I
>>>go about doing it?

>>
>> The more time I spend with Vista the worse XP looks (not that I ever
>> was that fond of it to begin with).
>>
>> Give Vista a chance. You'll be surprised.

>
>...if, yes if the 'new computer' has 1+ GB RAM and a graphics card
>with WDDM driver;-)


2 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT, 250 MB VRAM, WDDM Driver here.

Oh and I'm a Linux fanboy too. :-)
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:01 AM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

That wasn't my intent. For a fair number of folks, this sort of thing
isn't obvious -- especially if they are purchasing systems with the OS
pre-installed.

Perhaps for you and I, building a system and installing the OS, then
installing the drivers, then updating the OS, then updating the
drivers, then flashing the BIOS is obvious. Then again, folks pay me
to do that and have been for a long time, so I expect it isn't obvious
to all.


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Old 02-16-2007, 09:30 AM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

BSchnur presented the following explanation :
> That wasn't my intent. For a fair number of folks, this sort of
> thing isn't obvious -- especially if they are purchasing systems
> with the OS pre-installed.
>
> Perhaps for you and I, building a system and installing the OS, then
> installing the drivers, then updating the OS, then updating the
> drivers, then flashing the BIOS is obvious. Then again, folks pay me
> to do that and have been for a long time, so I expect it isn't
> obvious to all.


My sincere apologies... I sometimes tend to forget about the people
that
put butter on my bread! ;-)

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Old 02-16-2007, 04:01 PM
Hugh Wyn Griffith
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

If your "new PC with VISTA" is a laptop do not even think of doing this
until you have found that the laptop maker is providing files to
support XP on a model issued with VISTA on it. Some Toshiba laptops are
not showing any XP or earlier files and a laptop can be very
disadvantaged without specific laptop files.

You know you can set VISTA up to look pretty much like XP both for
menus and other visible features and that VISTA has a compatibility
mode that will enable some non-VISTA comaptible applications to run,
although I have not had to use that even on some very old software.

For what you would pay to buy a copy of XP for installation you could
get some more memory or a better graphics card (if it's not a laptop)
and others can help you tune VISTA.

PS What make and model of computer is it? How is it configured.

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Old 02-16-2007, 04:30 PM
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Re: Removing Windows Vista

No problem -- for most of the newsgroups I haunt, I expect a fairly
high tech level. I don't apply that here -- the proportion of trolls
and flamers alone makes for a very busy 'ignore thread' and consign to
'bozo filter' content.

Then there are the sincere 'help me out' folks posting a LOT over here
for whom an OS 'upgrade' or 'downgrade' is really new stuff.


> My sincere apologies... I sometimes tend to forget about the people
> that put butter on my bread! ;-)
>



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