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Old 02-11-2007, 01:47 PM
steveb
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What Were they thinking ?

Navigation Confusion

Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog box
that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows your
internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.

Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little box in
the left corner.


Security ?
Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage the
files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour and still
don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an MCSE is )


This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
asking me get her old one back.


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Old 02-11-2007, 02:01 PM
steveb
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

I should have mentioned that Acrobat won't intall as a Domain Admin

Have you looked at the registry.
When you search for keys, you find the key in the right pane, but the
folder the key is located in (in the left pane) is not identified, so you
have no idea where the key is without looking at the detail path in status
bar.

The folder you found used to be an 'open' folder.

Overall, after working with it as full time computer and network tech, the
navigation for local resources is visually very confusing. With XP you can
see what you were looking for and could tell where you are. After I work
with Vista for couple of hours, I keep swithing back to XP to get rid of my
headache.



"steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%234j0uViTHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Navigation Confusion
>
> Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog
> box that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows your
> internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.
>
> Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little box
> in the left corner.
>
>
> Security ?
> Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage
> the files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour and
> still don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an MCSE
> is )
>
>
> This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
> asking me get her old one back.
>[/color]


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Old 02-11-2007, 02:15 PM
Mike
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Re: What Were they thinking ?


"steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%234j0uViTHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Navigation Confusion
>
> Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog
> box that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows your
> internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.
>
> Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little box
> in the left corner.
>
>
> Security ?
> Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage
> the files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour and
> still don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an MCSE
> is )
>
>
> This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
> asking me get her old one back.
>[/color]
Sounds as though you have UAC disabled? Enable it, install acrobat then
disable again...

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Old 02-11-2007, 02:46 PM
Garry
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

I think Mike has it backwards, you need to turn off User Account Control then
load Acrobat, or any other Adobe CSx Product. I found this in an Adobe paper
and it worked for me.

Garry

"Mike" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%234j0uViTHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Navigation Confusion
> >
> > Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog
> > box that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows your
> > internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.
> >
> > Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little box
> > in the left corner.
> >
> >
> > Security ?
> > Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage
> > the files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour and
> > still don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an MCSE
> > is )
> >
> >
> > This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
> > asking me get her old one back.
> >[/color]
> Sounds as though you have UAC disabled? Enable it, install acrobat then
> disable again...
>
>[/color]
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Old 02-11-2007, 03:15 PM
steveb
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

Acobat won't install with UAC on or off. But when I turn UAC on logged in
with my domain admin account, Nancy a domain user, can no longer login. It
accepts her password > Welcomes her then reverts to the login screen. I
made her a domain admin to see if we get her logged in and we cant, unless I
diable UAC.





"Garry" <Garry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A4FA719E-C2DF-41FB-B8BB-43CDEF2B3B26@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I think Mike has it backwards, you need to turn off User Account Control
>then
> load Acrobat, or any other Adobe CSx Product. I found this in an Adobe
> paper
> and it worked for me.
>
> Garry
>
> "Mike" wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:%234j0uViTHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > Navigation Confusion
>> >
>> > Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog
>> > box that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows
>> > your
>> > internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.
>> >
>> > Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little
>> > box
>> > in the left corner.
>> >
>> >
>> > Security ?
>> > Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage
>> > the files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour
>> > and
>> > still don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an
>> > MCSE
>> > is )
>> >
>> >
>> > This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
>> > asking me get her old one back.
>> >[/color]
>> Sounds as though you have UAC disabled? Enable it, install acrobat then
>> disable again...
>>
>>[/color][/color]


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Old 02-11-2007, 05:02 PM
Kerry Brown
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

It sounds like you have many things going wrong. Is the computer properly
joined to the domain? Are you running a logon script that needs local admin
privileges? I have been running Vista on domains since the early betas and
haven't had the problems you are experiencing. I highly recommend you don't
turn UAC off. In your corporate networks you administer do let everyone run
with administrator privileges all the time? Do you routinely logon with a
domain admin account? Why would you do it at home? For Adobe products I find
running the installer in XP compatibility mode works. Even though Adobe is
claiming Vista compatibility it's pretty obvious they are doing something
wrong.

Here is what I would try to fix your domain logon problems. Logon with your
account. Turn on UAC. Make sure the computer is joined to the domain (i.e is
showing up in the correct OU, if it's an SBS domain then make doubly sure
it's in the correct OU and not Computers). Add you wife's domain account to
the local administrators group on the computer. Make sure all the TCP/IP
settings are correct for the domain, in particular make sure DNS is only
pointing to an AD DNS server and nothing else. See if she can logon and if
she gets any uac prompts during the logon. If she gets a uac prompt then
there is something in the logon script that needs local administrator
privileges. With uac turned off this may silently fail causing all sorts of
problems.

The rest is all just learning a new UI. We went through it with DOS to
Windows 3.1 to NT to 2000 to XP. Why would Vista be any different? As with
anything new most people hate it and are frustrated at first. After learning
it some people love it and would never go back, some people still hate it
and try very hard to make it look like the old way, and most people don't
really care because it works and they now know how to use it. It just takes
a bit of time to learn it. After using it during the beta testing and now
every day on both my main computers for several months I find the UI in XP
quite limiting. I am more productive with Vista.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
[url]http://www.vistahelp.ca[/url]


"steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
news:eKQ5xAjTHHA.1364@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Acobat won't install with UAC on or off. But when I turn UAC on logged in
> with my domain admin account, Nancy a domain user, can no longer login.
> It accepts her password > Welcomes her then reverts to the login screen.
> I made her a domain admin to see if we get her logged in and we cant,
> unless I diable UAC.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Garry" <Garry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A4FA719E-C2DF-41FB-B8BB-43CDEF2B3B26@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>I think Mike has it backwards, you need to turn off User Account Control
>>then
>> load Acrobat, or any other Adobe CSx Product. I found this in an Adobe
>> paper
>> and it worked for me.
>>
>> Garry
>>
>> "Mike" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%234j0uViTHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> > Navigation Confusion
>>> >
>>> > Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of
>>> > dialog
>>> > box that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows
>>> > your
>>> > internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.
>>> >
>>> > Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little
>>> > box
>>> > in the left corner.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Security ?
>>> > Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only
>>> > unpackage
>>> > the files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour
>>> > and
>>> > still don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an
>>> > MCSE
>>> > is )
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
>>> > asking me get her old one back.
>>> >
>>> Sounds as though you have UAC disabled? Enable it, install acrobat
>>> then
>>> disable again...
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>
>[/color]

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Old 02-11-2007, 05:32 PM
ChuckV
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RE: What Were they thinking ?

This is how I installed Reader 8.0:

1. Run the setup program that you got from Adobe.
2. When the "Open File - Security Warning" dialog box displays, do not
acknowledge it. (do not click either "Run" or "Cancel").
3. Navigate to the
C:\Users\"YourLoginName"\AppData\LocalLow\Netopsystems\temp
directory and copy the Adobe Reader 8.0 directory to some place else.
4. You can now acknowledge the setup dialog boxes and let setup fail.
5. Open the Adobe Reader 8.0 directory in the new location that you copied
it to, and then run the setup.exe from there.

Chuck


"steveb" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Navigation Confusion
>
> Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog box
> that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows your
> internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.
>
> Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little box in
> the left corner.
>
>
> Security ?
> Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage the
> files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour and still
> don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an MCSE is )
>
>
> This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
> asking me get her old one back.
>
>
>[/color]
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:45 PM
Scott
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:41:48 -0600, "steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> spake
thusly:
[color=blue]
>Navigation Confusion
>
>Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog box
>that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows your
>internet history.[/color]

It's not showing that here.[color=blue]
>
>Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little box in
>the left corner.[/color]

Go further to the left.....[color=blue]
>
>Security ?
>Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage the
>files to a place where vista won't let setup run.[/color]

Adobe Reader or the actual Acrobat creation program?

In the case of the former, (Adobe Reader 8) I had no trouble at all. I
don't have the other.

--
Scott [url]http://angrykeyboarder.com[/url]

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:15 PM
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

To install Acrobat Reader I had to turn on User Account Control. It
was telling me I had to be logged on as Admin, and I believe I was. I
also tried "run as admin" and that didn't work. I think that is a
little screwy.

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:33:00 -0800, Garry
<Garry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I think Mike has it backwards, you need to turn off User Account Control then
>load Acrobat, or any other Adobe CSx Product. I found this in an Adobe paper
>and it worked for me.
>
>Garry
>
>"Mike" wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:%234j0uViTHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > Navigation Confusion
>> >
>> > Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog
>> > box that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows your
>> > internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.
>> >
>> > Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little box
>> > in the left corner.
>> >
>> >
>> > Security ?
>> > Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage
>> > the files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour and
>> > still don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an MCSE
>> > is )
>> >
>> >
>> > This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
>> > asking me get her old one back.
>> >[/color]
>> Sounds as though you have UAC disabled? Enable it, install acrobat then
>> disable again...
>>
>>[/color][/color]
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:15 PM
thor
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

[email]atodzia@cox.net[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> To install Acrobat Reader I had to turn on User Account Control. It
> was telling me I had to be logged on as Admin, and I believe I was. I
> also tried "run as admin" and that didn't work. I think that is a
> little screwy.
>
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:33:00 -0800, Garry
> <Garry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I think Mike has it backwards, you need to turn off User Account Control then
>> load Acrobat, or any other Adobe CSx Product. I found this in an Adobe paper
>> and it worked for me.
>>
>> Garry
>>
>> "Mike" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%234j0uViTHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Navigation Confusion
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of dialog
>>>> box that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now shows your
>>>> internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at ebay.com.
>>>>
>>>> Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little box
>>>> in the left corner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Security ?
>>>> Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only unpackage
>>>> the files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I spent an hour and
>>>> still don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how worthless being an MCSE
>>>> is )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
>>>> asking me get her old one back.
>>>>
>>> Sounds as though you have UAC disabled? Enable it, install acrobat then
>>> disable again...
>>>
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

I installed Acrobat on two different Vista machines without any
problems. I did NOT turn off the UAC.

Are you sure it isn't a different problem - other than the UAC?

Thor
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:30 PM
Mark
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

Go to Adobe Forums and look at the trouble they are having.

I've tried everyone of their suggestions for something as simple as Flash
Player.
It will not work unless UAC is off.

The moment you turn it back on, Flash Player quits responding. Point being,
when UAC is off, it works just fine.
The real problem, it's different on every machine. You won't have any
problems, I can't even get it to install even though I've answered all the
prompts with ALLOW.


"thor" <thor@valhalla.comm> wrote in message
news:OCpiLqsXHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> [email]atodzia@cox.net[/email] wrote:[color=green]
>> To install Acrobat Reader I had to turn on User Account Control. It
>> was telling me I had to be logged on as Admin, and I believe I was. I
>> also tried "run as admin" and that didn't work. I think that is a
>> little screwy.
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:33:00 -0800, Garry
>> <Garry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I think Mike has it backwards, you need to turn off User Account Control
>>> then load Acrobat, or any other Adobe CSx Product. I found this in an
>>> Adobe paper and it worked for me.
>>>
>>> Garry
>>>
>>> "Mike" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "steveb" <swb_mct@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%234j0uViTHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Navigation Confusion
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried to save a file ? The drop down box at the top of
>>>>> dialog box that used to shown your local drive and mapped drives now
>>>>> shows your internet history. I don't think Ill be saving files at
>>>>> ebay.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok they hid the actual local file system navigation in a tiny little
>>>>> box in the left corner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Security ?
>>>>> Have you tired to install Acrobat? Their installer will only
>>>>> unpackage the files to a place where vista won't let setup run. I
>>>>> spent an hour and still don't have Acrobat running ( shows you how
>>>>> worthless being an MCSE is )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is my Wifes computer. vista is driving her crazy . . . she keeps
>>>>> asking me get her old one back.
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds as though you have UAC disabled? Enable it, install acrobat
>>>> then disable again...
>>>>[/color][/color]
>
> I installed Acrobat on two different Vista machines without any problems.
> I did NOT turn off the UAC.
>
> Are you sure it isn't a different problem - other than the UAC?
>
> Thor[/color]

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Old 03-04-2007, 08:00 PM
DP
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Re: What Were they thinking ?

[color=blue]
>
> I installed Acrobat on two different Vista machines without any problems.
> I did NOT turn off the UAC.
>[/color]

Same for me. I installed it on my one Vista Ultimate 64 computer with no
problem. In fact, it was so trouble-free that I don't even remember much of
the process. I may have had to click a "continue" button a couple of times
along the way, but I certainly didn't have to turn off UAC. This I know
because I have not even learned yet how to turn it off.

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