Well I know the restart button on Vista real well. About 20 to 30 mins is
what I get for the internet. After that no mail, no IE , no firefox.

MS what a piece of sh__. I now get to reboot about 20 times a day. Just
like win 95 during a development cycle.

Besides all the other problems this is the WORST implementation of just
about anything.

MS you should be ASHAMED.

Lloyd Sheen

Lloyd Sheen wrote:[color=blue]
> Well I know the restart button on Vista real well. About 20 to 30 mins
> is what I get for the internet. After that no mail, no IE , no firefox.
>
> MS what a piece of sh__. I now get to reboot about 20 times a day.
> Just like win 95 during a development cycle.
>
> Besides all the other problems this is the WORST implementation of just
> about anything.
>
> MS you should be ASHAMED.
>
> Lloyd Sheen[/color]

Give some more info, we might be able to help. I have not had a crash
since it came out. I think Vista is quite good.

Please don't think I am being smart but this is the situation.

Use internet for a while or not. After about 20 to 30 mins go on to
internet. IE will not serve pages, mail will not recieve mail (also
FireFox).

I have tried to release/renew the IP address to no avail.

Time to reboot about every 20 to 30 minutes.

Lloyd Sheen

"Chris" <chrisr.kline@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObM3%2328SHHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Lloyd Sheen wrote:[color=green]
>> Well I know the restart button on Vista real well. About 20 to 30 mins
>> is what I get for the internet. After that no mail, no IE , no firefox.
>>
>> MS what a piece of sh__. I now get to reboot about 20 times a day. Just
>> like win 95 during a development cycle.
>>
>> Besides all the other problems this is the WORST implementation of just
>> about anything.
>>
>> MS you should be ASHAMED.
>>
>> Lloyd Sheen[/color]
>
> Give some more info, we might be able to help. I have not had a crash
> since it came out. I think Vista is quite good.[/color]

Do you have Zone alarm for a firewall?

"Lloyd Sheen" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Please don't think I am being smart but this is the situation.
>
> Use internet for a while or not. After about 20 to 30 mins go on to
> internet. IE will not serve pages, mail will not recieve mail (also
> FireFox).
>
> I have tried to release/renew the IP address to no avail.
>
> Time to reboot about every 20 to 30 minutes.
>
> Lloyd Sheen
>
> "Chris" <chrisr.kline@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ObM3%2328SHHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Lloyd Sheen wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> Well I know the restart button on Vista real well. About 20 to 30 mins
> >> is what I get for the internet. After that no mail, no IE , no firefox.
> >>
> >> MS what a piece of sh__. I now get to reboot about 20 times a day. Just
> >> like win 95 during a development cycle.
> >>
> >> Besides all the other problems this is the WORST implementation of just
> >> about anything.
> >>
> >> MS you should be ASHAMED.
> >>
> >> Lloyd Sheen[/color]
> >
> > Give some more info, we might be able to help. I have not had a crash
> > since it came out. I think Vista is quite good.[/color]
>[/color]

I have only Live One Care from MS.

Lloyd
"sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF87406A-EC36-48F2-BDE5-12551A33E012@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Do you have Zone alarm for a firewall?
>
> "Lloyd Sheen" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Please don't think I am being smart but this is the situation.
>>
>> Use internet for a while or not. After about 20 to 30 mins go on to
>> internet. IE will not serve pages, mail will not recieve mail (also
>> FireFox).
>>
>> I have tried to release/renew the IP address to no avail.
>>
>> Time to reboot about every 20 to 30 minutes.
>>
>> Lloyd Sheen
>>
>> "Chris" <chrisr.kline@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ObM3%2328SHHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > Lloyd Sheen wrote:
>> >> Well I know the restart button on Vista real well. About 20 to 30
>> >> mins
>> >> is what I get for the internet. After that no mail, no IE , no
>> >> firefox.
>> >>
>> >> MS what a piece of sh__. I now get to reboot about 20 times a day.
>> >> Just
>> >> like win 95 during a development cycle.
>> >>
>> >> Besides all the other problems this is the WORST implementation of
>> >> just
>> >> about anything.
>> >>
>> >> MS you should be ASHAMED.
>> >>
>> >> Lloyd Sheen
>> >
>> > Give some more info, we might be able to help. I have not had a crash
>> > since it came out. I think Vista is quite good.[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

I'm new to this forum but wanted to post about this- I am having the
same problem with Vista as well- frequently loses internet connection.
I have a dell laptop and have wi-fi internet connection. It seems to
lose connection after several minutes of idle time. Also regularly
happens after the computer is in sleep or hibernate mode.

I'm very unhappy with Vista about this (also unhappy that many
applications are unsupported on Vista but that's another story.)

Euser


--
euser
------------------------------------------------------------------------
euser's Profile: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=21994[/url]
View this thread: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=678214[/url]

[url]http://forums.techarena.in[/url]

"euser" <euser.2lvbfk@DoNotSpam.com> wrote
[color=blue]
> I'm new to this forum but wanted to post about this- I am having the
> same problem with Vista as well- frequently loses internet connection.
> I have a dell laptop and have wi-fi internet connection. It seems to
> lose connection after several minutes of idle time. Also regularly
> happens after the computer is in sleep or hibernate mode.
>
> I'm very unhappy with Vista about this (also unhappy that many
> applications are unsupported on Vista but that's another story.)[/color]

Have you checked power management settings for the NIC in device manager to
not "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"? Application
compatibility, as is hardware driver compatibility, is the responsibility of
the software/hardware vendor.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

For my internet dropping it just happens. Everything is fine and then ....
time to reboot. I use the restart button about as much as any thing else on
this Ultimate system.

LS

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ei4CdWkTHHA.3440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "euser" <euser.2lvbfk@DoNotSpam.com> wrote
>[color=green]
>> I'm new to this forum but wanted to post about this- I am having the
>> same problem with Vista as well- frequently loses internet connection.
>> I have a dell laptop and have wi-fi internet connection. It seems to
>> lose connection after several minutes of idle time. Also regularly
>> happens after the computer is in sleep or hibernate mode.
>>
>> I'm very unhappy with Vista about this (also unhappy that many
>> applications are unsupported on Vista but that's another story.)[/color]
>
> Have you checked power management settings for the NIC in device manager
> to not "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"?
> Application compatibility, as is hardware driver compatibility, is the
> responsibility of the software/hardware vendor.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell][/color]

I loose connection myself andI have to go to tools and uncheck "offline" all
the time. What makes it do that is a mystery to me?

"Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:49162A53-5898-424B-B1B0-B79881C1AFA5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> For my internet dropping it just happens. Everything is fine and then
> .... time to reboot. I use the restart button about as much as any thing
> else on this Ultimate system.
>
> LS
>
> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:ei4CdWkTHHA.3440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "euser" <euser.2lvbfk@DoNotSpam.com> wrote
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I'm new to this forum but wanted to post about this- I am having the
>>> same problem with Vista as well- frequently loses internet connection.
>>> I have a dell laptop and have wi-fi internet connection. It seems to
>>> lose connection after several minutes of idle time. Also regularly
>>> happens after the computer is in sleep or hibernate mode.
>>>
>>> I'm very unhappy with Vista about this (also unhappy that many
>>> applications are unsupported on Vista but that's another story.)[/color]
>>
>> Have you checked power management settings for the NIC in device manager
>> to not "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"?
>> Application compatibility, as is hardware driver compatibility, is the
>> responsibility of the software/hardware vendor.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell][/color]
>[/color]

i had the work offline thing to but then it stopped. THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS
CERTAIN WEB SITES THE CONNECTION WONT GO THROUGH AND THEN I CAN STOP THE
ATTEMPT AND TRY ANOTHER WEBSITE (LIKE THIS ONE) AND IT GOES RIGHT THROUGH.
VISTA SUCKS I HAVE A BRAND NEW 3000.00 CPU WITH THE BEST OF THE BEST AND I
HAVE TO USE MY OLDER DESK TOP TO DO MOST THINGS BECAUSE IT IS RUNNING THE
GREAT XP. VISTA IS A JOKE.

"Mike G" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I loose connection myself andI have to go to tools and uncheck "offline" all
> the time. What makes it do that is a mystery to me?
>
> "Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:49162A53-5898-424B-B1B0-B79881C1AFA5@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > For my internet dropping it just happens. Everything is fine and then
> > .... time to reboot. I use the restart button about as much as any thing
> > else on this Ultimate system.
> >
> > LS
> >
> > "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:ei4CdWkTHHA.3440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> >> "euser" <euser.2lvbfk@DoNotSpam.com> wrote
> >>
> >>> I'm new to this forum but wanted to post about this- I am having the
> >>> same problem with Vista as well- frequently loses internet connection.
> >>> I have a dell laptop and have wi-fi internet connection. It seems to
> >>> lose connection after several minutes of idle time. Also regularly
> >>> happens after the computer is in sleep or hibernate mode.
> >>>
> >>> I'm very unhappy with Vista about this (also unhappy that many
> >>> applications are unsupported on Vista but that's another story.)
> >>
> >> Have you checked power management settings for the NIC in device manager
> >> to not "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"?
> >> Application compatibility, as is hardware driver compatibility, is the
> >> responsibility of the software/hardware vendor.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell][/color]
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

"Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
[color=blue]
>i had the work offline thing to but then it stopped. THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS
> CERTAIN WEB SITES THE CONNECTION WONT GO THROUGH AND THEN I CAN STOP THE
> ATTEMPT AND TRY ANOTHER WEBSITE (LIKE THIS ONE) AND IT GOES RIGHT THROUGH.
> VISTA SUCKS I HAVE A BRAND NEW 3000.00 CPU WITH THE BEST OF THE BEST AND I
> HAVE TO USE MY OLDER DESK TOP TO DO MOST THINGS BECAUSE IT IS RUNNING THE
> GREAT XP. VISTA IS A JOKE.
>
> "Mike G" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I loose connection myself andI have to go to tools and uncheck "offline"
>> all
>> the time. What makes it do that is a mystery to me?
>>
>> "Lloyd Sheen" <a@b.c> wrote[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> > For my internet dropping it just happens. Everything is fine and then
>> > .... time to reboot. I use the restart button about as much as any
>> > thing
>> > else on this Ultimate system.[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> > "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> "euser" <euser.2lvbfk@DoNotSpam.com> wrote
>> >>
>> >>> I'm new to this forum but wanted to post about this- I am having the
>> >>> same problem with Vista as well- frequently loses internet
>> >>> connection.
>> >>> I have a dell laptop and have wi-fi internet connection. It seems to
>> >>> lose connection after several minutes of idle time. Also regularly
>> >>> happens after the computer is in sleep or hibernate mode.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm very unhappy with Vista about this (also unhappy that many
>> >>> applications are unsupported on Vista but that's another story.)
>> >>
>> >> Have you checked power management settings for the NIC in device
>> >> manager
>> >> to not "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"?
>> >> Application compatibility, as is hardware driver compatibility, is the
>> >> responsibility of the software/hardware vendor.[/color][/color][/color]

For one thing, the caps lock key is broken, at the least it makes it hard to
read and most people will just ignore a post like that. Second are you
asking a question? If so post it as a new thread, not as a reply to someone
else's thread.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Rock;2555682 Wrote:[color=blue]
> "euser" <euser.2lvbfk@DoNotSpam.com> wrote
>[color=green]
> > I'm new to this forum but wanted to post about this- I am having the
> > same problem with Vista as well- frequently loses internet[/color]
> connection.[color=green]
> > I have a dell laptop and have wi-fi internet connection. It seems[/color]
> to[color=green]
> > lose connection after several minutes of idle time. Also regularly
> > happens after the computer is in sleep or hibernate mode.
> >
> > I'm very unhappy with Vista about this (also unhappy that many
> > applications are unsupported on Vista but that's another story.)[/color]
>
> Have you checked power management settings for the NIC in device
> manager to
> not "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"?
> Application
> compatibility, as is hardware driver compatibility, is the
> responsibility of
> the software/hardware vendor.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell][/color]

Well- this losing internet connection also happens when it's in use- I
was actively using the machine when it suddenly dropped. Now, usually
it restarts if you wait a few minutes. I went to Device Mgr and found
a setting in Advanced tab: Minimum power management and disabled it but
no improvement.

Very annoying- I never had this problem until I got Vista. Any new
theories why this is happening?

Euser


--
euser
------------------------------------------------------------------------
euser's Profile: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=21994[/url]
View this thread: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=678214[/url]

[url]http://forums.techarena.in[/url]

On Feb 12, 2:32 am, "Rock" <R...@nospam.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> "euser" <euser.2lv...@DoNotSpam.com> wrote
>[/color]
[color=blue]
> Have you checked power management settings for the NIC in device manager to
> not "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"? Application
> compatibility, as is hardware driver compatibility, is the responsibility of
> the software/hardware vendor.[/color]

I have the same problem. Sometimes, I still have the local connection
( I can reach other computers in my network but not the internet) I
have to click on the icon between local netowrk and internet and it
goes on again. Or if I leave the computer on all night, in the morming
I have lost all connections. I make a detect and repair and on again.
But it's a pain in the arse.

I was also having this problem... I have just Shut off the Power
management on my NIC. I'll let you know if it does not work.... but
I've got my money on it that this is gonna fix the problem. Thanks for
the help... Google brought me here. :o)

DOH... should'a thought of that! ;o)


--
Peggy
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Peggy's Profile: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=34227[/url]
View this thread: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=678214[/url]

[url]http://forums.techarena.in[/url]

I have the same problem in Vista Ultimate. Power Mgt has always been off for the NIC. I have a Linksys WRT54G coming off the cable modem. The Vista computer having the problem is wired into the hub with CAT5. Another computer sharing the WRT54G wirelessly never has a problem (it is running Fedora Linux 6, BTW :wink:).

Typically, I'm listening to internet radio or watching a Youtube video when I lose the internet. Rebooting does fix it, but I've learned that rebooting the router fixes it too - and quicker. It's not a router problem, since the Linux system never loses the Internet. Just unplugging / replugging the CAT5 cable from the router doesn't fix it.

I don't know if this is the same or different problem as the original post, but it seems that we could pick up a commonality here somehow.

I've applied all MS patches to Vista, to no avail.

Any ideas?

Jim