[url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url]

I've been saying this for years.

Alias

Alias wrote:
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>[/color]
[url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=blue]
>
> I've been saying this for years.
>[/color]

Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.

Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave goodbye to.

Death wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:
>
> [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=green]
>> I've been saying this for years.
>>[/color]
>
> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>
> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave goodbye to.[/color]

Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.

Alias

Alias wrote:
[color=blue]
> Death wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>[/color][/color]
[url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>
>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave goodbye to.[/color]
>
> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>[/color]

So, you want all your software to exist on a server?
I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just happened
to my work?
Did it automatically save it locally?
Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.

Ridiculous.
Most people will always want to "own" the software.
To be able to locally install,re-install it.

Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for sending
email that way.
They send emails from home or the laptop.

Death wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Death wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
> [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>>
>>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>>
>>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave goodbye to.[/color]
>> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>>[/color]
>
> So, you want all your software to exist on a server?[/color]

I didn't say that.
[color=blue]
> I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just happened
> to my work?
> Did it automatically save it locally?
> Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
> If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.
>
> Ridiculous.
> Most people will always want to "own" the software.[/color]

That leaves most software out the proverbial Windows. You don't own it.
You have a license to use it.
[color=blue]
> To be able to locally install,re-install it.
>
> Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
> People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for sending
> email that way.
> They send emails from home or the laptop.[/color]

I get emails from cell phones all the time, both business and pleasure.

Intelligent people will use both. For example, all my GMail data is on
Google's server. It's also on my internal and external hard drive.

Alias

Alias wrote:
[color=blue]
> Death wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
[url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>>>
>>>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave goodbye
>>>> to.
>>> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> So, you want all your software to exist on a server?[/color]
>
> I didn't say that.
>[/color]

Then, you advocate partial cloud computing?
The OS is on a server, but Word is not?
You confuse me.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just
>> happened to my work?
>> Did it automatically save it locally?
>> Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
>> If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.
>>
>> Ridiculous.
>> Most people will always want to "own" the software.[/color]
>
> That leaves most software out the proverbial Windows. You don't own it.
> You have a license to use it.
>[/color]

Notice how I wrote "own".
You own it more than cloud computing, where it will be "monthly rent"
[color=blue][color=green]
>> To be able to locally install,re-install it.
>>
>> Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
>> People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for sending
>> email that way.
>> They send emails from home or the laptop.[/color]
>
> I get emails from cell phones all the time, both business and pleasure.
>[/color]

I didn't say no one emails from a PDA ... most don't.
Kids and girls with little fingers like it.
[color=blue]
> Intelligent people will use both. For example, all my GMail data is on
> Google's server. It's also on my internal and external hard drive.
>[/color]

I see, GMail is cloud computing to you.
Yes, I use hotmail too ... but its not my "real email" account.

Death wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Death wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>[/color][/color]
> [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave goodbye
>>>>> to.
>>>> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>>>>
>>> So, you want all your software to exist on a server?[/color]
>> I didn't say that.
>>[/color]
>
> Then, you advocate partial cloud computing?
> The OS is on a server, but Word is not?
> You confuse me.[/color]

No, the OS will be on your computer. It just won't be as important.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just
>>> happened to my work?
>>> Did it automatically save it locally?
>>> Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
>>> If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.
>>>
>>> Ridiculous.
>>> Most people will always want to "own" the software.[/color]
>> That leaves most software out the proverbial Windows. You don't own it.
>> You have a license to use it.
>>[/color]
>
> Notice how I wrote "own".
> You own it more than cloud computing, where it will be "monthly rent"[/color]

You "own" it at Microsoft's pleasure. Try to get some updates for
Windows 98, something you say one could "own". The new Ubuntu comes with
2 gigs of free cloud storage. Remember how Snotmail used to only give
you megabytes of storage and then GMail came along and changed all that?
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> To be able to locally install,re-install it.
>>>
>>> Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
>>> People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for sending
>>> email that way.
>>> They send emails from home or the laptop.[/color]
>> I get emails from cell phones all the time, both business and pleasure.
>>[/color]
>
> I didn't say no one emails from a PDA ... most don't.
> Kids and girls with little fingers like it.[/color]

Top level executives do too. I guess you don't know any.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Intelligent people will use both. For example, all my GMail data is on
>> Google's server. It's also on my internal and external hard drive.
>>[/color]
>
> I see, GMail is cloud computing to you.
> Yes, I use hotmail too ... but its not my "real email" account.[/color]

I use GMail for personal mail. I have my own domains for my businesses.

Alias

Alias wrote:
[color=blue]
> Death wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
[url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave goodbye
>>>>>> to.
>>>>> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>>>>>
>>>> So, you want all your software to exist on a server?
>>> I didn't say that.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Then, you advocate partial cloud computing?
>> The OS is on a server, but Word is not?
>> You confuse me.[/color]
>
> No, the OS will be on your computer. It just won't be as important.
>[/color]

But your link is opposed to that view.
You disagree with your own link.
Interesting.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just
>>>> happened to my work?
>>>> Did it automatically save it locally?
>>>> Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
>>>> If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.
>>>>
>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>> Most people will always want to "own" the software.
>>> That leaves most software out the proverbial Windows. You don't own it.
>>> You have a license to use it.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Notice how I wrote "own".
>> You own it more than cloud computing, where it will be "monthly rent"[/color]
>
> You "own" it at Microsoft's pleasure. Try to get some updates for
> Windows 98, something you say one could "own".[/color]

Actually, I still have an old PC with Windows 98 on it.
It isn't online anymore, but can still be used.
I've owned Win98 for almost 12 years.
That pretty much owning it.
[color=blue]
> The new Ubuntu comes with
> 2 gigs of free cloud storage. Remember how Snotmail used to only give
> you megabytes of storage and then GMail came along and changed all that?
>[/color]

How many GB's of junkmail do you think I need to save?

Even my AV gives me 10GB of free offline storage...I don't use it either.

[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> To be able to locally install,re-install it.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
>>>> People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for
>>>> sending email that way.
>>>> They send emails from home or the laptop.
>>> I get emails from cell phones all the time, both business and pleasure.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I didn't say no one emails from a PDA ... most don't.
>> Kids and girls with little fingers like it.[/color]
>
> Top level executives do too. I guess you don't know any.
>[/color]

Yeah, I guess not.
Straight to the insults when you are shown to be a linux weenie.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Intelligent people will use both. For example, all my GMail data is on
>>> Google's server. It's also on my internal and external hard drive.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I see, GMail is cloud computing to you.
>> Yes, I use hotmail too ... but its not my "real email" account.[/color]
>
> I use GMail for personal mail. I have my own domains for my businesses.
>[/color]

Impressive.
What is the domain?

Death wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Death wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[/color][/color]
> [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave goodbye
>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>>>>>>
>>>>> So, you want all your software to exist on a server?
>>>> I didn't say that.
>>>>
>>> Then, you advocate partial cloud computing?
>>> The OS is on a server, but Word is not?
>>> You confuse me.[/color]
>> No, the OS will be on your computer. It just won't be as important.
>>[/color]
>
> But your link is opposed to that view.[/color]

Really? Please quote the view. I couldn't find it.
[color=blue]
> You disagree with your own link.[/color]

See above.
[color=blue]
> Interesting.[/color]

Indeed.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>> I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just
>>>>> happened to my work?
>>>>> Did it automatically save it locally?
>>>>> Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
>>>>> If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>>> Most people will always want to "own" the software.
>>>> That leaves most software out the proverbial Windows. You don't own it.
>>>> You have a license to use it.
>>>>
>>> Notice how I wrote "own".
>>> You own it more than cloud computing, where it will be "monthly rent"[/color]
>> You "own" it at Microsoft's pleasure. Try to get some updates for
>> Windows 98, something you say one could "own".[/color]
>
> Actually, I still have an old PC with Windows 98 on it.
> It isn't online anymore, but can still be used.
> I've owned Win98 for almost 12 years.
> That pretty much owning it.[/color]

Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits? Try to get a
security update from Microsoft.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> The new Ubuntu comes with
>> 2 gigs of free cloud storage. Remember how Snotmail used to only give
>> you megabytes of storage and then GMail came along and changed all that?
>>[/color]
>
> How many GB's of junkmail do you think I need to save?[/color]

It's automatically deleted every 30 days.
[color=blue]
>
> Even my AV gives me 10GB of free offline storage...I don't use it either.[/color]

So?
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>>> To be able to locally install,re-install it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
>>>>> People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for
>>>>> sending email that way.
>>>>> They send emails from home or the laptop.
>>>> I get emails from cell phones all the time, both business and pleasure.
>>>>
>>> I didn't say no one emails from a PDA ... most don't.
>>> Kids and girls with little fingers like it.[/color]
>> Top level executives do too. I guess you don't know any.
>>[/color]
>
> Yeah, I guess not.
> Straight to the insults when you are shown to be a linux weenie.[/color]

You siad only kids and girls with little fingers like it. This implies
you know no one else who does it. Not an insult but an observation.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Intelligent people will use both. For example, all my GMail data is on
>>>> Google's server. It's also on my internal and external hard drive.
>>>>
>>> I see, GMail is cloud computing to you.
>>> Yes, I use hotmail too ... but its not my "real email" account.[/color]
>> I use GMail for personal mail. I have my own domains for my businesses.
>>[/color]
>
> Impressive.
> What is the domain?[/color]

You wish.

Alias

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hd68b5$9f9$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url]
>
> I've been saying this for years.
>
> Alias[/color]

It's the fact of the inevitability.

They shouldn't be popping the champagne corks at Microsoft over the news
that Windows 7 sales are skyrocketing. A well-known management consultant
says that Windows 7's success could be the worst thing to happen to
Microsoft, and turn the company in the General Motors of software.

The market research company NPD Group reports that sales of Windows 7 in the
U.S. "were 234 percent higher than Vista's first few days of sales."

Stephen Baker, vice president of industry analysis at NPD said this about
the Windows 7 launch:
"Microsoft's program of early low-cost pre-sales, high visibility marketing,
and aggressive deals helped make the Windows 7 software launch successful.
In a slow environment for packaged software Windows 7 brought a large number
of customers into the software aisles."

Sounds like good news, doesn't it? In fact, it's just about the worst news
that Microsoft could hear, says Jay R. Galbraith, president and founder,
Galbraith Management Consultants. In an article for CNNMoney, Galbraith
argues that Microsoft could potentially become the the General Motors of
software --- old, outdated, irrelevant, and eventually headed towards ruin.
And the success of Windows 7, he says, will only accelerate that.

Galbraith says that in order for Microsoft to thrive, it needs to shift its
attention away from the desktop, and towards other devices and cloud
computing. He has this to say about why a Windows 7 success will hurt
Microsoft:

"The worst thing that could happen is a success with Windows 7, which would
reinforce management's focus on the desktop. Then, as customers move away
from the desktop to smartphones and other devices, market share will
decline. But if share declines slowly, maybe a point or two a year, the drop
will not be enough to overcome the pride that comes with high margins and
high profits. Over time, the desktop mafia will experience a shift from
pride to hubris. Welcome to the General Motors scenario.

Galbraith says that Microsoft needs to clean house and rid itself of
managers tied to past ways of thinking and doing business. And the quickest
way for that to happen, he believes, is for Microsoft's competitors to
succeed:

"The best thing that could happen to Microsoft would be successes by Apple
(AAPL) or Google (GOOG) that cause a significant loss of sales and market
share. The shock would create a sense of urgency and cause the leaders to
clean house."

He says that Microsoft does not have to turn into the next General Motors,
as long as Steve Ballmer takes drastic action:
"The General Motors scenario does not have to happen. Ballmer can focus
inward on transforming the desktop mafia to the new computing paradigm. Or,
better yet, appoint a hands-on, change-experienced chief operating officer
who can do it with him."

I don't see that happening, though. Ballmer is too wedded to the past --- a
fresh set of eyes are needed if Microsoft is going to transform itself.

Microsoft clearly isn't in trouble today --- it's got nearly a global
monopoly on operating systems, and other profit-making product lines. But GM
at one point was in a similar situation. It took decades for GM to decline.
Unless Microsoft heeds Galbraith's advice, the same eventually may happen to
Microsoft.

Alias wrote:
[color=blue]
> Death wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
[url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave
>>>>>>>> goodbye to.
>>>>>>> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, you want all your software to exist on a server?
>>>>> I didn't say that.
>>>>>
>>>> Then, you advocate partial cloud computing?
>>>> The OS is on a server, but Word is not?
>>>> You confuse me.
>>> No, the OS will be on your computer. It just won't be as important.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> But your link is opposed to that view.[/color]
>
> Really? Please quote the view. I couldn't find it.
>[/color]

You gotta be kidding !

" Galbraith says that in order for Microsoft to thrive, it needs to shift
its attention away from the desktop, and towards other devices and cloud
computing."


Every comment made by readers on that page called the blogger an idiot.
There was one Ballmer heckler.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> You disagree with your own link.[/color]
>
> See above.
>[/color]

I'm having a hard time even having a discussion with you.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Interesting.[/color]
>
> Indeed.
>[/color]

Indeed, I question your sanity.
See above.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>>> I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just
>>>>>> happened to my work?
>>>>>> Did it automatically save it locally?
>>>>>> Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
>>>>>> If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>>>> Most people will always want to "own" the software.
>>>>> That leaves most software out the proverbial Windows. You don't own
>>>>> it. You have a license to use it.
>>>>>
>>>> Notice how I wrote "own".
>>>> You own it more than cloud computing, where it will be "monthly rent"
>>> You "own" it at Microsoft's pleasure. Try to get some updates for
>>> Windows 98, something you say one could "own".[/color]
>>
>> Actually, I still have an old PC with Windows 98 on it.
>> It isn't online anymore, but can still be used.
>> I've owned Win98 for almost 12 years.
>> That pretty much owning it.[/color]
>
> Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits? Try to get a
> security update from Microsoft.
>[/color]

What does that have to do with "owning" it.
I don't need to update it.
It works fine in the situation I use it for.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> The new Ubuntu comes with
>>> 2 gigs of free cloud storage. Remember how Snotmail used to only give
>>> you megabytes of storage and then GMail came along and changed all that?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> How many GB's of junkmail do you think I need to save?[/color]
>
> It's automatically deleted every 30 days.
>[/color]

Awesome.
You get that many GBs of GMail, or do you like preaching the advantages of
useless benefits?
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Even my AV gives me 10GB of free offline storage...I don't use it either.[/color]
>
> So?
>[/color]

So, free offline storage is unimportant.
Thumb drives and usb HDDs are dirt cheap.

Once again, I question your ability to comprehend a train of thought you
began.
Perhaps your original posting had a purpose?
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>>>> To be able to locally install,re-install it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
>>>>>> People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for
>>>>>> sending email that way.
>>>>>> They send emails from home or the laptop.
>>>>> I get emails from cell phones all the time, both business and
>>>>> pleasure.
>>>>>
>>>> I didn't say no one emails from a PDA ... most don't.
>>>> Kids and girls with little fingers like it.
>>> Top level executives do too. I guess you don't know any.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Yeah, I guess not.
>> Straight to the insults when you are shown to be a linux weenie.[/color]
>
> You siad only kids and girls with little fingers like it. This implies
> you know no one else who does it. Not an insult but an observation.
>[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>> Intelligent people will use both. For example, all my GMail data is on
>>>>> Google's server. It's also on my internal and external hard drive.
>>>>>
>>>> I see, GMail is cloud computing to you.
>>>> Yes, I use hotmail too ... but its not my "real email" account.
>>> I use GMail for personal mail. I have my own domains for my businesses.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Impressive.
>> What is the domain?[/color]
>
> You wish.
>[/color]

What would happen?
I'm sure its on a linux server... therefore its bullet proof.
Name it.

> In an article for CNNMoney, Galbraith argues that Microsoft could[color=blue]
> potentially become the the General Motors of software --- old, outdated,
> irrelevant, and eventually headed towards ruin. And the success of Windows
> 7, he says, will only accelerate that.[/color]

If we are talking about vertical business applications, they already are and
it's not a news.

But changing platforms is not as easy as changing a car because, honestly
speaking, a platform is just a platform and it's applications where most
professionals put their focus on.

So it may take some years before rvials popping the champagne corks as well.

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:#4U9JBHYKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hd68b5$9f9$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url]
>>
>> I've been saying this for years.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> It's the fact of the inevitability.
>
> They shouldn't be popping the champagne corks at Microsoft over the news
> that Windows 7 sales are skyrocketing. A well-known management consultant
> says that Windows 7's success could be the worst thing to happen to
> Microsoft, and turn the company in the General Motors of software.
>
> The market research company NPD Group reports that sales of Windows 7 in
> the U.S. "were 234 percent higher than Vista's first few days of sales."
>
> Stephen Baker, vice president of industry analysis at NPD said this about
> the Windows 7 launch:
> "Microsoft's program of early low-cost pre-sales, high visibility
> marketing, and aggressive deals helped make the Windows 7 software launch
> successful. In a slow environment for packaged software Windows 7 brought
> a large number of customers into the software aisles."
>
> Sounds like good news, doesn't it? In fact, it's just about the worst news
> that Microsoft could hear, says Jay R. Galbraith, president and founder,
> Galbraith Management Consultants. In an article for CNNMoney, Galbraith
> argues that Microsoft could potentially become the the General Motors of
> software --- old, outdated, irrelevant, and eventually headed towards
> ruin. And the success of Windows 7, he says, will only accelerate that.
>
> Galbraith says that in order for Microsoft to thrive, it needs to shift
> its attention away from the desktop, and towards other devices and cloud
> computing. He has this to say about why a Windows 7 success will hurt
> Microsoft:
>
> "The worst thing that could happen is a success with Windows 7, which
> would reinforce management's focus on the desktop. Then, as customers move
> away from the desktop to smartphones and other devices, market share will
> decline. But if share declines slowly, maybe a point or two a year, the
> drop will not be enough to overcome the pride that comes with high margins
> and high profits. Over time, the desktop mafia will experience a shift
> from pride to hubris. Welcome to the General Motors scenario.
>
> Galbraith says that Microsoft needs to clean house and rid itself of
> managers tied to past ways of thinking and doing business. And the
> quickest way for that to happen, he believes, is for Microsoft's
> competitors to succeed:
>
> "The best thing that could happen to Microsoft would be successes by Apple
> (AAPL) or Google (GOOG) that cause a significant loss of sales and market
> share. The shock would create a sense of urgency and cause the leaders to
> clean house."
>
> He says that Microsoft does not have to turn into the next General Motors,
> as long as Steve Ballmer takes drastic action:
> "The General Motors scenario does not have to happen. Ballmer can focus
> inward on transforming the desktop mafia to the new computing paradigm.
> Or, better yet, appoint a hands-on, change-experienced chief operating
> officer who can do it with him."
>
> I don't see that happening, though. Ballmer is too wedded to the past ---
> a fresh set of eyes are needed if Microsoft is going to transform itself.
>
> Microsoft clearly isn't in trouble today --- it's got nearly a global
> monopoly on operating systems, and other profit-making product lines. But
> GM at one point was in a similar situation. It took decades for GM to
> decline. Unless Microsoft heeds Galbraith's advice, the same eventually
> may happen to Microsoft.
>
>[/color]

Death wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Death wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>[/color][/color]
> [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>>>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave
>>>>>>>>> goodbye to.
>>>>>>>> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, you want all your software to exist on a server?
>>>>>> I didn't say that.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Then, you advocate partial cloud computing?
>>>>> The OS is on a server, but Word is not?
>>>>> You confuse me.
>>>> No, the OS will be on your computer. It just won't be as important.
>>>>
>>> But your link is opposed to that view.[/color]
>> Really? Please quote the view. I couldn't find it.
>>[/color]
>
> You gotta be kidding !
>
> " Galbraith says that in order for Microsoft to thrive, it needs to shift
> its attention away from the desktop, and towards other devices and cloud
> computing."[/color]

That doesn't say Microsoft -- or anyone else for that matter --
shouldn't create operating systems. It is talking about attention, not
dumping operating systems.
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>
>
> Every comment made by readers on that page called the blogger an idiot.
> There was one Ballmer heckler.
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> You disagree with your own link.[/color]
>> See above.
>>[/color]
>
> I'm having a hard time even having a discussion with you.[/color]

With your opinions, that's not surprising.
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>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Interesting.[/color]
>> Indeed.
>>[/color]
>
> Indeed, I question your sanity.
> See above.[/color]

Who's sane? Who's normal?
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>> I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just
>>>>>>> happened to my work?
>>>>>>> Did it automatically save it locally?
>>>>>>> Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
>>>>>>> If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>>>>> Most people will always want to "own" the software.
>>>>>> That leaves most software out the proverbial Windows. You don't own
>>>>>> it. You have a license to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Notice how I wrote "own".
>>>>> You own it more than cloud computing, where it will be "monthly rent"
>>>> You "own" it at Microsoft's pleasure. Try to get some updates for
>>>> Windows 98, something you say one could "own".
>>> Actually, I still have an old PC with Windows 98 on it.
>>> It isn't online anymore, but can still be used.
>>> I've owned Win98 for almost 12 years.
>>> That pretty much owning it.[/color]
>> Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits? Try to get a
>> security update from Microsoft.
>>[/color]
>
> What does that have to do with "owning" it.
> I don't need to update it.
> It works fine in the situation I use it for.[/color]

Put it on line and see how long your "ownership" lasts.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> The new Ubuntu comes with
>>>> 2 gigs of free cloud storage. Remember how Snotmail used to only give
>>>> you megabytes of storage and then GMail came along and changed all that?
>>>>
>>> How many GB's of junkmail do you think I need to save?[/color]
>> It's automatically deleted every 30 days.
>>[/color]
>
> Awesome.
> You get that many GBs of GMail, or do you like preaching the advantages of
> useless benefits?[/color]

I don't get GBs of mail. It's not an issue.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Even my AV gives me 10GB of free offline storage...I don't use it either.[/color]
>> So?
>>[/color]
>
> So, free offline storage is unimportant.
> Thumb drives and usb HDDs are dirt cheap.[/color]

And connecting them to an infected computer is stupid. Cloud storage can
be very convenient for computer repair and many other uses.
[color=blue]
>
> Once again, I question your ability to comprehend a train of thought you
> began.
> Perhaps your original posting had a purpose?[/color]

Heh.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> To be able to locally install,re-install it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
>>>>>>> People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for
>>>>>>> sending email that way.
>>>>>>> They send emails from home or the laptop.
>>>>>> I get emails from cell phones all the time, both business and
>>>>>> pleasure.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't say no one emails from a PDA ... most don't.
>>>>> Kids and girls with little fingers like it.
>>>> Top level executives do too. I guess you don't know any.
>>>>
>>> Yeah, I guess not.
>>> Straight to the insults when you are shown to be a linux weenie.[/color]
>> You siad only kids and girls with little fingers like it. This implies
>> you know no one else who does it. Not an insult but an observation.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>>> Intelligent people will use both. For example, all my GMail data is on
>>>>>> Google's server. It's also on my internal and external hard drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I see, GMail is cloud computing to you.
>>>>> Yes, I use hotmail too ... but its not my "real email" account.
>>>> I use GMail for personal mail. I have my own domains for my businesses.
>>>>
>>> Impressive.
>>> What is the domain?[/color]
>> You wish.
>>[/color]
>
> What would happen?
> I'm sure its on a linux server... therefore its bullet proof.
> Name it.[/color]

Not gonna happen.

Alias[color=blue]
>[/color]

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hd6ie4$d2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Death wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>[/color]
>> [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com/15052/why_windows_7s_success_may_ruin_microsoft[/url][color=darkred]
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been saying this for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, you are as wrong as that consultant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cloud computing ... the wave of the future that you can wave
>>>>>>>>>> goodbye to.
>>>>>>>>> Oh dear, a horse and buggy defender.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, you want all your software to exist on a server?
>>>>>>> I didn't say that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, you advocate partial cloud computing?
>>>>>> The OS is on a server, but Word is not?
>>>>>> You confuse me.
>>>>> No, the OS will be on your computer. It just won't be as important.
>>>>>
>>>> But your link is opposed to that view.
>>> Really? Please quote the view. I couldn't find it.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> You gotta be kidding !
>>
>> " Galbraith says that in order for Microsoft to thrive, it needs to shift
>> its attention away from the desktop, and towards other devices and cloud
>> computing."[/color]
>
> That doesn't say Microsoft -- or anyone else for that matter --
> shouldn't create operating systems. It is talking about attention, not
> dumping operating systems.
>[/color]

Azure, Bing, 7 Mobile.
What?
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>>
>> Every comment made by readers on that page called the blogger an idiot.
>> There was one Ballmer heckler.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> You disagree with your own link.
>>> See above.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I'm having a hard time even having a discussion with you.[/color]
>
> With your opinions, that's not surprising.
>[/color]

Shared by all but MS bashers.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Interesting.
>>> Indeed.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Indeed, I question your sanity.
>> See above.[/color]
>
> Who's sane? Who's normal?
>[/color]

Neither that blogger or yourself.

[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>>>>> I use a cloud Word program, my dsl link resets, what the fudge just
>>>>>>>> happened to my work?
>>>>>>>> Did it automatically save it locally?
>>>>>>>> Did the server save it? (And do I want them too?)
>>>>>>>> If my connection is down for awhile, I guess I just don't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>>>>>> Most people will always want to "own" the software.
>>>>>>> That leaves most software out the proverbial Windows. You don't own
>>>>>>> it. You have a license to use it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice how I wrote "own".
>>>>>> You own it more than cloud computing, where it will be "monthly rent"
>>>>> You "own" it at Microsoft's pleasure. Try to get some updates for
>>>>> Windows 98, something you say one could "own".
>>>> Actually, I still have an old PC with Windows 98 on it.
>>>> It isn't online anymore, but can still be used.
>>>> I've owned Win98 for almost 12 years.
>>>> That pretty much owning it.
>>> Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits? Try to get a
>>> security update from Microsoft.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> What does that have to do with "owning" it.
>> I don't need to update it.
>> It works fine in the situation I use it for.[/color]
>
> Put it on line and see how long your "ownership" lasts.
>[/color]

I can put it online, and do sometimes to get other updates.
If you think I'm scared of being hacked...LOL.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>> The new Ubuntu comes with
>>>>> 2 gigs of free cloud storage. Remember how Snotmail used to only give
>>>>> you megabytes of storage and then GMail came along and changed all
>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>> How many GB's of junkmail do you think I need to save?
>>> It's automatically deleted every 30 days.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Awesome.
>> You get that many GBs of GMail, or do you like preaching the advantages
>> of useless benefits?[/color]
>
> I don't get GBs of mail. It's not an issue.
>[/color]

So, all that free stuff you raved about is pretty useless.
Like your "Microsoft Sucks" attention grabbing.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Even my AV gives me 10GB of free offline storage...I don't use it
>>>> either.
>>> So?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> So, free offline storage is unimportant.
>> Thumb drives and usb HDDs are dirt cheap.[/color]
>
> And connecting them to an infected computer is stupid. Cloud storage can
> be very convenient for computer repair and many other uses.
>[/color]

You have an infected computer often?
I never do.
You might wanna get rid of linux, move to Windows.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Once again, I question your ability to comprehend a train of thought you
>> began.
>> Perhaps your original posting had a purpose?[/color]
>
> Heh.[/color]

I know its purpose.
That's why you have no answer besides Heh.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To be able to locally install,re-install it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps cloud computing for netbooks, PDAs ... even that is weak.
>>>>>>>> People like reading email on their iPhone, but far less care for
>>>>>>>> sending email that way.
>>>>>>>> They send emails from home or the laptop.
>>>>>>> I get emails from cell phones all the time, both business and
>>>>>>> pleasure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't say no one emails from a PDA ... most don't.
>>>>>> Kids and girls with little fingers like it.
>>>>> Top level executives do too. I guess you don't know any.
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I guess not.
>>>> Straight to the insults when you are shown to be a linux weenie.
>>> You siad only kids and girls with little fingers like it. This implies
>>> you know no one else who does it. Not an insult but an observation.
>>>
>>>>>>> Intelligent people will use both. For example, all my GMail data is
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> Google's server. It's also on my internal and external hard drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see, GMail is cloud computing to you.
>>>>>> Yes, I use hotmail too ... but its not my "real email" account.
>>>>> I use GMail for personal mail. I have my own domains for my
>>>>> businesses.
>>>>>
>>>> Impressive.
>>>> What is the domain?
>>> You wish.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> What would happen?
>> I'm sure its on a linux server... therefore its bullet proof.
>> Name it.[/color]
>
> Not gonna happen.
>[/color]

I hear ya.
Linux security is way over-rated.

Death wrote:

Snip childish drivel and oneupsmanship.
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> What would happen?
>>> I'm sure its on a linux server... therefore its bullet proof.
>>> Name it.[/color]
>>
>> Not gonna happen.
>>[/color]
>
> I hear ya.
> Linux security is way over-rated.[/color]

You're very ill informed and have no imagination. On my business web
sites, you will find my address, phone, fax and email. It doesn't take a
genius to figure out what could be done with that information.

Alias