and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
[url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url]

What you can do with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch videos/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screen shots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:

1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and
anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
being compromised.

2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your
password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.

Alias

On 10/28/2009 6:03 AM, Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
> [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url]
>
> What you can do with Ubuntu:
>
> Email
> Surf the web
> Burn CDs.
> Rip CDs.
> Listen to music.
> Watch videos/DVDs.
> Scan and print.
> Spreadsheets.
> Presentations
> Newsgroups.
> HTML editing.
> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
> Make videos.
> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
> Translations.
> Use a dictionary
> Learn how to touch type.
> Edit images.
> Send and receive a fax.
> Take screen shots.
> Create .PDF files.
> Create and use a data base.
> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
> Windows Live Messenger.
> IRC.
> Bluetooth.
>
> and much more!
>
> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>
> Worry about:
> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
> DRM,
> Viruses,
> Root kits,
> Spyware,
> and
> Malware.
>
> The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:
>
> 1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
> from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
> or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and
> anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
> ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
> the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
> Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
> constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
> being compromised.
>
> 2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your
> password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
> is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
> not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
> and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.
>
> Alias
>
>[/color]

Wonder what difference there is running the RC today if it is fully
updated? Not much I bet. I don't like Grub 2. It sucks on my machine.
Takes 20 seconds just to load the menu list from Grub start. I don't
know how to edit it like the old one either. Guess I could find out, but
thinking of getting rid of it instead.

gregg wrote:[color=blue]
> On 10/28/2009 6:03 AM, Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
>> [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url]
>>
>> What you can do with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Email
>> Surf the web
>> Burn CDs.
>> Rip CDs.
>> Listen to music.
>> Watch videos/DVDs.
>> Scan and print.
>> Spreadsheets.
>> Presentations
>> Newsgroups.
>> HTML editing.
>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>> Make videos.
>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>> Translations.
>> Use a dictionary
>> Learn how to touch type.
>> Edit images.
>> Send and receive a fax.
>> Take screen shots.
>> Create .PDF files.
>> Create and use a data base.
>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>> Windows Live Messenger.
>> IRC.
>> Bluetooth.
>>
>> and much more!
>>
>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Worry about:
>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>> DRM,
>> Viruses,
>> Root kits,
>> Spyware,
>> and
>> Malware.
>>
>> The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:
>>
>> 1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
>> from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
>> or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and
>> anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
>> ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
>> the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
>> Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
>> constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
>> being compromised.
>>
>> 2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your
>> password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
>> is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
>> not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
>> and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.
>>
>> Alias
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Wonder what difference there is running the RC today if it is fully
> updated? Not much I bet. I don't like Grub 2. It sucks on my machine.
> Takes 20 seconds just to load the menu list from Grub start. I don't
> know how to edit it like the old one either. Guess I could find out, but
> thinking of getting rid of it instead.[/color]

Install KGrubEditor from Synaptic. It's a one click GUI to change the OS
boot order.

Alias

One you can't give away even at zero cents, the other commands a price.

One is free if your time is worthless, the other costs but frees up your
time.

One is so "open" and "flexible" they leave it to you to recompile the kernel
if you get a new printer need to get it to work, the other has a flexible
API enabling developers to write drivers so that when you get a new printer,
it works.

One has a small bunch of followers who all think this is is the year their
OS takes the desktop - and they've been thinking this every year since
1996 - the other can be found working away -guess where - on the desktop.

One is called Linux and it sucks, the other is called Windows 7 and it's
great.

One you can't give away even at zero cents, the other commands a price.

One is free if your time is worthless, the other costs but frees up your
time.

One is so "open" and "flexible" they leave it to you to recompile the kernel
if you get a new printer need to get it to work, the other has a flexible
API enabling developers to write drivers so that when you get a new printer,
it works.

One has a small bunch of followers who all think this is is the year their
OS takes the desktop - and they've been thinking this every year since
1996 - the other can be found working away -guess where - on the desktop.

One is called Linux and it sucks, the other is called Windows 7 and it
blows.

Kevin SmallBone wrote:[color=blue]
> One you can't give away even at zero cents,[/color]

A lie.
[color=blue]
> the other commands a price.[/color]

Yeah, a high one.
[color=blue]
>
> One is free if your time is worthless,[/color]

A lie.
[color=blue]
> the other costs but frees up your
> time.[/color]

Another lie.
[color=blue]
>
> One is so "open" and "flexible" they leave it to you to recompile the
> kernel
> if you get a new printer need to get it to work, the other has a flexible
> API enabling developers to write drivers so that when you get a new
> printer,
> it works.[/color]

Yet another lie.
[color=blue]
>
> One has a small bunch of followers who all think this is is the year their
> OS takes the desktop - and they've been thinking this every year since
> 1996 - the other can be found working away -guess where - on the desktop.[/color]

A total misunderstanding of the facts.
[color=blue]
>
> One is called Linux and it sucks, the other is called Windows 7 and it
> blows.[/color]

I bet you like those Windows 7 blow jobs, don't you?

Alias[color=blue]
>
>[/color]

On 10/28/2009 7:42 AM, Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> gregg wrote:[color=green]
>> On 10/28/2009 6:03 AM, Alias wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
>>> [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url]
>>>
>>> What you can do with Ubuntu:
>>>
>>> Email
>>> Surf the web
>>> Burn CDs.
>>> Rip CDs.
>>> Listen to music.
>>> Watch videos/DVDs.
>>> Scan and print.
>>> Spreadsheets.
>>> Presentations
>>> Newsgroups.
>>> HTML editing.
>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>> Make videos.
>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>> Translations.
>>> Use a dictionary
>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>> Edit images.
>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>> Take screen shots.
>>> Create .PDF files.
>>> Create and use a data base.
>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>> IRC.
>>> Bluetooth.
>>>
>>> and much more!
>>>
>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>
>>> Worry about:
>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>> DRM,
>>> Viruses,
>>> Root kits,
>>> Spyware,
>>> and
>>> Malware.
>>>
>>> The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:
>>>
>>> 1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
>>> from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
>>> or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and
>>> anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
>>> ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
>>> the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
>>> Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
>>> constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
>>> being compromised.
>>>
>>> 2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your
>>> password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
>>> is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
>>> not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
>>> and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Wonder what difference there is running the RC today if it is fully
>> updated? Not much I bet. I don't like Grub 2. It sucks on my machine.
>> Takes 20 seconds just to load the menu list from Grub start. I don't
>> know how to edit it like the old one either. Guess I could find out,
>> but thinking of getting rid of it instead.[/color]
>
> Install KGrubEditor from Synaptic. It's a one click GUI to change the OS
> boot order.
>
> Alias[/color]

Yeah, but then there is that "K" thing. :) Right now I am pure gnome. Oh
well, I would have broken down later for something.