I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.

Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect
to root kits?

After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
using Windows

philo wrote:[color=blue]
> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>
> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect
> to root kits?
>
> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
> using Windows[/color]

Nope, no Win7 newsgroups and not likely will be.

As for root kits, if you're careful, you won't get them. Practice smart
computing. Make sure your virus protection and malware scanner software
is running and up-to-date. Be careful what website you go to and be
careful clicking on links in e-mails from people you don't know. Its
simple, really.

The Official Microsoft Windows 7 Answers Forum:
[url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7[/url]


philo wrote:[color=blue]
> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>
> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect
> to root kits?
>
> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
> using Windows[/color]

"philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
news:hc7un1$u2a$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>
> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect to
> root kits?
>
> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about using
> Windows[/color]

As mentioned already, you ought to be paranoid about using your computer,
not the OS, because it is well protected from within already and with a few
personal add-ons you shouldn't have any problems whatsoever playing safe
hex. <H>.

"philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
news:hc7un1$u2a$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
>I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>
> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect to
> root kits?
>
> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about using
> Windows
>
>[/color]

alt.windows7.general

Beginning to get more traffic as people get Win. 7 although I hear some
feeds do not yet carry it. If your feed has it, ask there, as there are a
couple people who have been using it for a while now and seem to know it
well.
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."

[Lazarus Long]

philo wrote:[color=blue]
> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>
> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect
> to root kits?
>
> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
> using Windows[/color]

[url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] No root kits in the wild or any other malware
and, best of all, it's free.

Alias

"philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
news:hc7un1$u2a$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
>I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>
> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
> respect to root kits?
>
> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
> using Windows[/color]


Not specifically W7, not recent, but interesting regards UAC
[url]http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/052308-vistas-uac-spots-rootkits-tests.html?fsrc=rss-security[/url]

Tom

"Leroy" <leroy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4AE780ED.2070709@earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> The Official Microsoft Windows 7 Answers Forum:
> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7[/url]
>
>
> philo wrote:[color=green]
>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>
>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect
>> to root kits?
>>
>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>> using Windows[/color][/color]



I have seen you post 20-30 times but you have never answered a question.

Why not?

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience & Security

I've answered many questions in the Windows 7 Answers Forum. That's
where Windows 7 questions ought to be posted.


Richard Urban wrote:[color=blue]
> "Leroy" <leroy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4AE780ED.2070709@earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> The Official Microsoft Windows 7 Answers Forum:
>> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7[/url]
>>
>>
>> philo wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>>> respect to root kits?
>>>
>>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>>> using Windows[/color][/color]
>
>
>
> I have seen you post 20-30 times but you have never answered a question.
>
> Why not?
>[/color]

"Leroy" <leroy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4AE7C979.2080009@earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> I've answered many questions in the Windows 7 Answers Forum. That's where
> Windows 7 questions ought to be posted.
>[/color]
how can you answer so many questions there when you are a parrot here?

milt wrote:[color=blue]
> philo wrote:[color=green]
>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>
>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>> respect to root kits?
>>
>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>> using Windows[/color]
>
> Nope, no Win7 newsgroups and not likely will be.
>
> As for root kits, if you're careful, you won't get them. Practice smart
> computing. Make sure your virus protection and malware scanner software
> is running and up-to-date. Be careful what website you go to and be
> careful clicking on links in e-mails from people you don't know. Its
> simple, really.[/color]


Here is my situation:

I was using XP for many years and consider myself to be an advanced
user. I do a lot of computer repair work...and deal with infected
machines all the time. Just never thought it would happen to me.

First off, I have always kept my security software and Windows itself
updated...and I never go to "those" kinds of websites. I certainly never
open any unknown attachments and for the most part... malicious email
gets filtered out anyway

Additionally my virus checker was set to periodically perform a full
"normal" scan.

Even though I consider myself extremely cautious...I did end up getting
a root kit...and I did not find it until I realized some of my financial
accounts had been hacked. (Got it fixed)

Then scoured my machine for root kits and first looked in all the usual
spots. Finally found it. The rootkit had installed itself in the restore
volume! Those clever Russians...sheesh.


I immediately switched over to Linux for all on-line transactions...
and though I can use it for most of my work...realize than in the "real
world" Windows is still needed to run some of the applications I need.
(Such as video-conferencing with my office)

My current situation is that for the times I do need to use Windows...
I use XP...
but know that sooner of later I will need a newer version of Windows.

Tried Vista and it's performance was just not there...but Win7 looks
promising... thus far I cannot find documentation for it's way of
avoiding root kits

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> philo wrote:[color=green]
>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>
>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>> respect to root kits?
>>
>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>> using Windows[/color]
>
> [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] No root kits in the wild or any other malware
> and, best of all, it's free.
>
> Alias[/color]


yes...I did switch over to Linux ...
but am seriously trying to see how Win7 handles such things as root kits
as there are a few things I still need Windows for

philo wrote:[color=blue]
> milt wrote:[color=green]
>> philo wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>>> respect to root kits?
>>>
>>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>>> using Windows[/color]
>>
>> Nope, no Win7 newsgroups and not likely will be.
>>
>> As for root kits, if you're careful, you won't get them. Practice
>> smart computing. Make sure your virus protection and malware scanner
>> software is running and up-to-date. Be careful what website you go to
>> and be careful clicking on links in e-mails from people you don't
>> know. Its simple, really.[/color]
>
>
> Here is my situation:
>
> I was using XP for many years and consider myself to be an advanced
> user. I do a lot of computer repair work...and deal with infected
> machines all the time. Just never thought it would happen to me.
>
> First off, I have always kept my security software and Windows itself
> updated...and I never go to "those" kinds of websites. I certainly never
> open any unknown attachments and for the most part... malicious email
> gets filtered out anyway
>
> Additionally my virus checker was set to periodically perform a full
> "normal" scan.
>
> Even though I consider myself extremely cautious...I did end up getting
> a root kit...and I did not find it until I realized some of my financial
> accounts had been hacked. (Got it fixed)
>
> Then scoured my machine for root kits and first looked in all the usual
> spots. Finally found it. The rootkit had installed itself in the restore
> volume! Those clever Russians...sheesh.
>
>
> I immediately switched over to Linux for all on-line transactions...
> and though I can use it for most of my work...realize than in the "real
> world" Windows is still needed to run some of the applications I need.
> (Such as video-conferencing with my office)
>
> My current situation is that for the times I do need to use Windows...
> I use XP...
> but know that sooner of later I will need a newer version of Windows.
>
> Tried Vista and it's performance was just not there...but Win7 looks
> promising... thus far I cannot find documentation for it's way of
> avoiding root kits[/color]

The same way that Linux has for ages: UAC.

Alias

webster72n wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hc7un1$u2a$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>
>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>> respect to root kits?
>>
>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>> using Windows[/color]
>
> As mentioned already, you ought to be paranoid about using your
> computer, not the OS, because it is well protected from within already
> and with a few personal add-ons you shouldn't have any problems
> whatsoever playing safe hex. <H>.
>
>[/color]


Well I am currently using Linux for my on-line transactions

realize no OS is 100% secure...
but wanted to see if Win7 handles things better than XP as far as root kits

Alex Clayton wrote:[color=blue]
> "philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hc7un1$u2a$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>
>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>> respect to root kits?
>>
>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>> using Windows
>>
>>[/color]
>
> alt.windows7.general
>
> Beginning to get more traffic as people get Win. 7 although I hear some
> feeds do not yet carry it. If your feed has it, ask there, as there are
> a couple people who have been using it for a while now and seem to know
> it well.[/color]

thank you