Tom Allen wrote:[color=blue]
> "philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hc7un1$u2a$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>
>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>> respect to root kits?
>>
>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>> using Windows[/color]
>
>
> Not specifically W7, not recent, but interesting regards UAC
> [url]http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/052308-vistas-uac-spots-rootkits-tests.html?fsrc=rss-security[/url]
>
> Tom
>
>[/color]


thank you

philo wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> philo wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>>> respect to root kits?
>>>
>>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>>> using Windows[/color]
>>
>> [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] No root kits in the wild or any other malware
>> and, best of all, it's free.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
>
> yes...I did switch over to Linux ...
> but am seriously trying to see how Win7 handles such things as root kits
> as there are a few things I still need Windows for[/color]

The UAC in Vista and the new UAC in Windows 7 is supposed to stop them.
You know, like the password applet that pops up in Linux when you try to
install something or something tries to install without you knowing
about it?

Alias

once you get W7 running download/install Microsoft Security Essentials.

[email]mikeyhsd@lamparty.net[/email]



"philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message news:hc7un1$u2a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.

Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect
to root kits?

After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
using Windows

"philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
news:hc9cui$nb9$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
>
>
> My current situation is that for the times I do need to use Windows...
> I use XP...
> but know that sooner of later I will need a newer version of Windows.
>
> Tried Vista and it's performance was just not there...but Win7 looks
> promising... thus far I cannot find documentation for it's way of avoiding
> root kits[/color]

Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) detected and removed all rootkits. Have
a read...
[url]http://www.darkreading.com/insiderthreat/security/antivirus/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220300706[/url]

free too.

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> philo wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> philo wrote:
>>>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>>>> respect to root kits?
>>>>
>>>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>>>> using Windows
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] No root kits in the wild or any other malware
>>> and, best of all, it's free.
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>>
>> yes...I did switch over to Linux ...
>> but am seriously trying to see how Win7 handles such things as root kits
>> as there are a few things I still need Windows for[/color]
>
> The UAC in Vista and the new UAC in Windows 7 is supposed to stop them.
> You know, like the password applet that pops up in Linux when you try to
> install something or something tries to install without you knowing
> about it?
>
> Alias[/color]


Ok thanks

Though some may consider UAC a PITA

I see it's a necessary one.

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> philo wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> philo wrote:
>>>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with
>>>> respect to root kits?
>>>>
>>>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>>>> using Windows
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] No root kits in the wild or any other malware
>>> and, best of all, it's free.
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>>
>> yes...I did switch over to Linux ...
>> but am seriously trying to see how Win7 handles such things as root kits
>> as there are a few things I still need Windows for[/color]
>
> The UAC in Vista and the new UAC in Windows 7 is supposed to stop them.
> You know, like the password applet that pops up in Linux when you try to
> install something or something tries to install without you knowing
> about it?
>
> Alias[/color]


Yep...

my present solution is *two* computers and a KVM switch.

I mainly run Linux...but if I need to run a Win-ap...
just fire up the other machine (with XP)

Since I build all my stuff mostly with spare parts...
the cost for my two machines is still less than for what most people
would pay for a single machine LOL


(Yes, I know all about dual booting an virtual machines)

Slap wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hc9cui$nb9$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> My current situation is that for the times I do need to use Windows...
>> I use XP...
>> but know that sooner of later I will need a newer version of Windows.
>>
>> Tried Vista and it's performance was just not there...but Win7 looks
>> promising... thus far I cannot find documentation for it's way of
>> avoiding root kits[/color]
>
> Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) detected and removed all rootkits.
> Have a read...
> [url]http://www.darkreading.com/insiderthreat/security/antivirus/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220300706[/url]
>
>
> free too.
>
>
>[/color]
thanks

Richard Urban wrote:[color=blue]
>
> I have seen you post 20-30 times but you have never answered a question.
>
> Why not?
>[/color]

Because leroy is a spambot.

"philo" <philo@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
news:hc9d19$nb9$2@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> philo wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I see no Microsoft Win7 groups yet.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how good the built-in security is...especially with respect
>>> to root kits?[/color][/color][/color]


No matter which OS you run, good computing habits should be followed, eh?
Windows 7 is rootkit resistent, but not proof - you will need a scanner such
as MSE (see below).

[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> After I got a root kit on my XP machine...I got a bit paranoid about
>>> using Windows[/color][/color][/color]


Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

[color=blue][color=green]
>> [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] No root kits in the wild or any other malware and,
>> best of all, it's free.[/color][/color]


Don't be so sure. Just as an example, RedHat Linux has an errata list as
long as my arm. Out of the box it has more holes than Swiss Cheese. "Free"
is a relative term there, BTW.

[color=blue][color=green]
>> Alias[/color]
>
>
> yes...I did switch over to Linux ...
> but am seriously trying to see how Win7 handles such things as root kits
> as there are a few things I still need Windows for[/color]


If you install security software such as Microsoft Security Essentials
(MSE), your computer scans files for such things before running them. MSE,
apparently, is very good at catching potential rooting:

[Microsoft Security Essentials]
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials[/url]

Saucy