From: "Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com>

| David H. Lipman wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> From: "Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com>[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> | Paul H wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>> I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>>>> programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?[/color][/color][/color]

[color=blue][color=green]
>> | 1. So you can use more than 2 gig of ram.
>> | 2. Runs faster with most 64 bit programs like 64bit IE.
>> | 3. 32bit programs run fine on 64 bit windows or linux.
>> | 4. I upgraded my 32 bit Vista with 64 bit Windows 7.[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Actually, 64bit apps will run slower than a 32bit app which runs slower than a 16bit
>> app
>> which runs slower than an 8bit app.[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> The fact is with a 64bit app you move twice as much data per clock cycle.[/color][/color]

| Twice as much data? That means faster to me.

Exact opposite.
It has MORE work to do per clock cycle. Thus making it slower.

--
Dave
[url]http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html[/url]
Multi-AV - [url]http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp[/url]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:30:21 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:22:16 -0500, "Paul H"
><NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some programs?[/color]
>
>
>There are still *very* few programs that have 64-bit versions.
>[color=green]
>> Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?[/color]
>
>
>
>Here's my standard reply:
>
>The advantage of running a 64-bit version of Windows basically exists
>only if you also run 64-bit applications under it. Bear in mind that
>there are very few such applications available yet. If you are
>presently running 32-bit Windows, you don't have any 64-bit
>applications, so to achieve any advantage, you not only have to
>replace Windows, but also your applications, *if* (and that's a big
>"if") 64-bit versions exist.
>
>Also note that you will need 64-bit drivers for all your hardware.
>Those drivers may not all be available, especially if some of your
>hardware is a few years old. So it's possible that you might also have
>to replace things like your printer, scanner, etc.
>
>So the answer to your question is that it may not be a great idea
>right now. That will undoubtedly change in the near future, but for
>now, 64-bit Windows mostly means some extra trouble and expense for
>little or no benefit.
>
>On the other hand, installing 64-bit Windows instead of 32-bit Windows
>makes you able to buy 64-bit software as it becomes available, instead
>of the older 32-bit versions. That means that installing 64-bit
>Windows--even though it may do very little for you at present--puts
>you into a better position for the future.
>
>One additional point: the 64-bit version lets you use more than the
>approximately 3.1GB of RAM that the 32-bit version can use. Very few
>people need or can make effective use of more than 3.1GB, but if you
>are one of those who can, that's something else to consider.[/color]


Why do preinstalled laptops and desktop have 64bit installed. Dell,
Emachine, Gateway, etc. and some have no floppy option either (You
cant order any from dell, like you use to).

I am thinking of a computer shop and getting Vista and might upgrade
to W7, I always hate to be behind the times. I am running windows
98se and xp sp3 dual boot legally.



Greg

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:10:01 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:
[color=blue]
> From: "Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com>
>
>| David H. Lipman wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> From: "Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> | Paul H wrote:
>>>>> I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>>>>> programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?[/color][/color]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> | 1. So you can use more than 2 gig of ram.
>>> | 2. Runs faster with most 64 bit programs like 64bit IE.
>>> | 3. 32bit programs run fine on 64 bit windows or linux.
>>> | 4. I upgraded my 32 bit Vista with 64 bit Windows 7.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Actually, 64bit apps will run slower than a 32bit app which runs slower than a 16bit
>>> app
>>> which runs slower than an 8bit app.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> The fact is with a 64bit app you move twice as much data per clock cycle.[/color][/color]
>
>| Twice as much data? That means faster to me.
>
> Exact opposite.
> It has MORE work to do per clock cycle. Thus making it slower.[/color]

Uh - the "more work" is done in parallel, i.e., n bits at a time. Note that
the unit is *per clock cycle*; the clock cycles aren't being changed to
accommodate different numbers bits.

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:3mfce5p0o98eh83eqhlohg7j9e5ln97psk@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:22:16 -0500, "Paul H"
> <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>> programs?[/color]
>
>
> There are still *very* few programs that have 64-bit versions.
>[color=green]
>> Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?[/color]
>
>
>
> Here's my standard reply:
>
> The advantage of running a 64-bit version of Windows basically exists
> only if you also run 64-bit applications under it. Bear in mind that
> there are very few such applications available yet. If you are
> presently running 32-bit Windows, you don't have any 64-bit
> applications, so to achieve any advantage, you not only have to
> replace Windows, but also your applications, *if* (and that's a big
> "if") 64-bit versions exist.
>
> Also note that you will need 64-bit drivers for all your hardware.
> Those drivers may not all be available, especially if some of your
> hardware is a few years old. So it's possible that you might also have
> to replace things like your printer, scanner, etc.
>
> So the answer to your question is that it may not be a great idea
> right now. That will undoubtedly change in the near future, but for
> now, 64-bit Windows mostly means some extra trouble and expense for
> little or no benefit.
>
> On the other hand, installing 64-bit Windows instead of 32-bit Windows
> makes you able to buy 64-bit software as it becomes available, instead
> of the older 32-bit versions. That means that installing 64-bit
> Windows--even though it may do very little for you at present--puts
> you into a better position for the future.
>
> One additional point: the 64-bit version lets you use more than the
> approximately 3.1GB of RAM that the 32-bit version can use. Very few
> people need or can make effective use of more than 3.1GB, but if you
> are one of those who can, that's something else to consider.
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]

Ken,

The rapid switchover to 64 bit hardware and Windows is a good
thing, as it will accelerate the introduction of 64 bit apps.
Developers can now concentrate on 64 bit only code without the
cost of producing parallel 32 bit code. By the end of the year,
netbooks will probably be the only remaining 32 bit PCs. Even
Macs can now run true 64 bit code with OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard.

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some programs?[/color]

No, it does not. Any 32 bit program should run in a 64-bit OS.
[color=blue]
>Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?[/color]

Yes, you can have a LOT more RAM. No more 4GB limit, which translates
to 3.5 or so after BIOS and video RAM are mapped.

--
Tim Slattery
[email]Slattery_T@bls.gov[/email]
[url]http://members.cox.net/slatteryt[/url]

OK, I've read all the arguments.

1. I don't need speed for what I do.
a)Google
b)MicroFocus COBOL (version 3.1 will never use 64 bit)
c) email
d)FreeCell
e)applications I write in COBOL
f)I can be happy with a Celeron
g)network my 5 mostly laptop computers
1)one 32 bit W7 home premium
2)one 32 bit Vista home premium (soon to be W7)
3)one Vista basic on my wife's Celeron
4)one XP Pro (has apps. I can't bear to part with)
5)one old desktop XP Pro

2. I do not want to have to think abut 32 vs. 64 bit anything
a)just live a simple life for a few years
b)maybe my next computer will be 64 bit everything
c)they go obsolete in two or three years and
d)they get cheaper and cheaper.
e)I just don't care

3. So what won't they make some pre-installed 32 bit W7?
a)I'm not the only one who doesn't care.
b)is it some upgrade plot by Microsoft?

I'm an old guy - computers are just my hobby - I volunteer at senior
centers - [url]www.PCHplano.com[/url]

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:OmP2pMpVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?
>[/color]

Yup. I went to install a copy of Windows 7 on my brother's computer and
asked him if he wanted 32 or 64 bit. He said the 32-bit was OK and to
install that. 'Works very well.

Saucy



"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:exxnFjpVKHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> But that's my question. 32 bit seems satisfactory for me for a few years,
> at least.
>
> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
> news:ORx4xXpVKHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> From: "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net>
>>
>> | I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>> programs?
>> | Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?
>>
>>
>> You mean like breaking the 4GB (2^32-1) RAM barrier ?
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>> [url]http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html[/url]
>> Multi-AV - [url]http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp[/url]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

32-bit is just fine. Don't worry about these guys. If you were tracking
weather systems or running the database for Wal*Mart, you might actually
*need* 64-bits. Even Microsoft's Office suite is only available in 32-bits.

But if your computer come with 64-bit Windows, so what? It will run most all
32-bit programs. Besides, if you get the Professional version of Windows 7
(recommended), and if your computer's CPU supports virtualization, you can
download and install XP Mode -- just in case of the rare instance that a
32-bit program won't run right away off a 64-bit Windows installation.

Saucy



"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:#L1xASBWKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> OK, I've read all the arguments.
>
> 1. I don't need speed for what I do.
> a)Google
> b)MicroFocus COBOL (version 3.1 will never use 64 bit)
> c) email
> d)FreeCell
> e)applications I write in COBOL
> f)I can be happy with a Celeron
> g)network my 5 mostly laptop computers
> 1)one 32 bit W7 home premium
> 2)one 32 bit Vista home premium (soon to be W7)
> 3)one Vista basic on my wife's Celeron
> 4)one XP Pro (has apps. I can't bear to part with)
> 5)one old desktop XP Pro
>
> 2. I do not want to have to think abut 32 vs. 64 bit anything
> a)just live a simple life for a few years
> b)maybe my next computer will be 64 bit everything
> c)they go obsolete in two or three years and
> d)they get cheaper and cheaper.
> e)I just don't care
>
> 3. So what won't they make some pre-installed 32 bit W7?
> a)I'm not the only one who doesn't care.
> b)is it some upgrade plot by Microsoft?
>
> I'm an old guy - computers are just my hobby - I volunteer at senior
> centers - [url]www.PCHplano.com[/url]
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
> news:OmP2pMpVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>>programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?
>>[/color]
>[/color]

I, for one, never encouraged or urged amyone on the net to use anything
unless one sees the benefits.

You asked a question and some of us pointed you to where you could read some
information from which you could make your own decision.

Gald you have and there is no need to provide any reason for your own
decision :)

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:#L1xASBWKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> OK, I've read all the arguments.
>
> 1. I don't need speed for what I do.
> a)Google
> b)MicroFocus COBOL (version 3.1 will never use 64 bit)
> c) email
> d)FreeCell
> e)applications I write in COBOL
> f)I can be happy with a Celeron
> g)network my 5 mostly laptop computers
> 1)one 32 bit W7 home premium
> 2)one 32 bit Vista home premium (soon to be W7)
> 3)one Vista basic on my wife's Celeron
> 4)one XP Pro (has apps. I can't bear to part with)
> 5)one old desktop XP Pro
>
> 2. I do not want to have to think abut 32 vs. 64 bit anything
> a)just live a simple life for a few years
> b)maybe my next computer will be 64 bit everything
> c)they go obsolete in two or three years and
> d)they get cheaper and cheaper.
> e)I just don't care
>
> 3. So what won't they make some pre-installed 32 bit W7?
> a)I'm not the only one who doesn't care.
> b)is it some upgrade plot by Microsoft?
>
> I'm an old guy - computers are just my hobby - I volunteer at senior
> centers - [url]www.PCHplano.com[/url]
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
> news:OmP2pMpVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>>programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?
>>[/color]
>[/color]

My issue is that I cannot buy a laptop with W7 installed that is not 64 bit.
So I have to purchase a W7 upgrade CD to change to 32 bit? Or try to get
one without W7 pre-installed?

"xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uTE$KNIWKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I, for one, never encouraged or urged amyone on the net to use anything
> unless one sees the benefits.
>
> You asked a question and some of us pointed you to where you could read
> some information from which you could make your own decision.
>
> Gald you have and there is no need to provide any reason for your own
> decision :)
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
> news:#L1xASBWKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> OK, I've read all the arguments.
>>
>> 1. I don't need speed for what I do.
>> a)Google
>> b)MicroFocus COBOL (version 3.1 will never use 64 bit)
>> c) email
>> d)FreeCell
>> e)applications I write in COBOL
>> f)I can be happy with a Celeron
>> g)network my 5 mostly laptop computers
>> 1)one 32 bit W7 home premium
>> 2)one 32 bit Vista home premium (soon to be W7)
>> 3)one Vista basic on my wife's Celeron
>> 4)one XP Pro (has apps. I can't bear to part with)
>> 5)one old desktop XP Pro
>>
>> 2. I do not want to have to think abut 32 vs. 64 bit anything
>> a)just live a simple life for a few years
>> b)maybe my next computer will be 64 bit everything
>> c)they go obsolete in two or three years and
>> d)they get cheaper and cheaper.
>> e)I just don't care
>>
>> 3. So why won't they make some pre-installed 32 bit W7?
>> a)I'm not the only one who doesn't care.
>> b)is it some upgrade plot by Microsoft?
>>
>> I'm an old guy - computers are just my hobby - I volunteer at senior
>> centers - [url]www.PCHplano.com[/url]
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:OmP2pMpVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>>>programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>My issue is that I cannot buy a laptop with W7 installed that is not 64 bit.
>So I have to purchase a W7 upgrade CD to change to 32 bit? Or try to get
>one without W7 pre-installed?[/color]

You'd have to do a fresh install, you cannot change bitness by
upgrading. IM(NS)HO, it would be *far* more trouble than it's worth.
The 64-bit system will run your 32-bit apps, the needed drivers are
already there (you'd have to find 32-bit drivers for everything if you
switched), it can take more RAM if you want more. And there are no
drawbacks. Spare yourself the grief.

--
Tim Slattery
[email]Slattery_T@bls.gov[/email]
[url]http://members.cox.net/slatteryt[/url]

The biggest problem you are likely to have is with older hardware and
drivers for it, although I suspect Microsoft will try to address this in
W7 better than they did in Vista. I mean drivers are not really their
responsibility but it's a customer service thing to some extent. MS can
be quite "Persuasive" I imagine.

However it will not be long before 64 bit systems are fully supported so
I understand your concerns but think they may be less of an issue than
you think aside from drivers.


Paul H wrote:[color=blue]
> My issue is that I cannot buy a laptop with W7 installed that is not 64
> bit. So I have to purchase a W7 upgrade CD to change to 32 bit? Or try
> to get one without W7 pre-installed?
>
> "xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uTE$KNIWKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I, for one, never encouraged or urged amyone on the net to use
>> anything unless one sees the benefits.
>>
>> You asked a question and some of us pointed you to where you could
>> read some information from which you could make your own decision.
>>
>> Gald you have and there is no need to provide any reason for your own
>> decision :)
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:#L1xASBWKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> OK, I've read all the arguments.
>>>
>>> 1. I don't need speed for what I do.
>>> a)Google
>>> b)MicroFocus COBOL (version 3.1 will never use 64 bit)
>>> c) email
>>> d)FreeCell
>>> e)applications I write in COBOL
>>> f)I can be happy with a Celeron
>>> g)network my 5 mostly laptop computers
>>> 1)one 32 bit W7 home premium
>>> 2)one 32 bit Vista home premium (soon to be W7)
>>> 3)one Vista basic on my wife's Celeron
>>> 4)one XP Pro (has apps. I can't bear to part with)
>>> 5)one old desktop XP Pro
>>>
>>> 2. I do not want to have to think abut 32 vs. 64 bit anything
>>> a)just live a simple life for a few years
>>> b)maybe my next computer will be 64 bit everything
>>> c)they go obsolete in two or three years and
>>> d)they get cheaper and cheaper.
>>> e)I just don't care
>>>
>>> 3. So why won't they make some pre-installed 32 bit W7?
>>> a)I'm not the only one who doesn't care.
>>> b)is it some upgrade plot by Microsoft?
>>>
>>> I'm an old guy - computers are just my hobby - I volunteer at senior
>>> centers - [url]www.PCHplano.com[/url]
>>>
>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OmP2pMpVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>>>> programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

So what?

:o)

It will probably all of your 32-bit apps save for some system utility stuff
(common sense here). 64-bit Windows works very well, and should you want to
run a 64-bit app someday, you already be ready. I would even venture to
recommend popping for the Professional version of Windows, as it is better
equipped than Home.

Saucy


"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:eijQoqKWKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My issue is that I cannot buy a laptop with W7 installed that is not 64
> bit. So I have to purchase a W7 upgrade CD to change to 32 bit? Or try to
> get one without W7 pre-installed?
>
> "xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uTE$KNIWKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I, for one, never encouraged or urged amyone on the net to use anything
>> unless one sees the benefits.
>>
>> You asked a question and some of us pointed you to where you could read
>> some information from which you could make your own decision.
>>
>> Gald you have and there is no need to provide any reason for your own
>> decision :)
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:#L1xASBWKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> OK, I've read all the arguments.
>>>
>>> 1. I don't need speed for what I do.
>>> a)Google
>>> b)MicroFocus COBOL (version 3.1 will never use 64 bit)
>>> c) email
>>> d)FreeCell
>>> e)applications I write in COBOL
>>> f)I can be happy with a Celeron
>>> g)network my 5 mostly laptop computers
>>> 1)one 32 bit W7 home premium
>>> 2)one 32 bit Vista home premium (soon to be W7)
>>> 3)one Vista basic on my wife's Celeron
>>> 4)one XP Pro (has apps. I can't bear to part with)
>>> 5)one old desktop XP Pro
>>>
>>> 2. I do not want to have to think abut 32 vs. 64 bit anything
>>> a)just live a simple life for a few years
>>> b)maybe my next computer will be 64 bit everything
>>> c)they go obsolete in two or three years and
>>> d)they get cheaper and cheaper.
>>> e)I just don't care
>>>
>>> 3. So why won't they make some pre-installed 32 bit W7?
>>> a)I'm not the only one who doesn't care.
>>> b)is it some upgrade plot by Microsoft?
>>>
>>> I'm an old guy - computers are just my hobby - I volunteer at senior
>>> centers - [url]www.PCHplano.com[/url]
>>>
>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OmP2pMpVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>>>>programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

In addition, you could also ask if the vendor can pre-install for your or
provide an install media (not recovery disc) or purchase one with an upgrade
option (from Vista or XP to Windows 7).

The following link is for illustration purpose, and refer to the Eligible
Operating Systems section:

[url]http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/landing/en/us/windows-7-consumer?c=us&l=en&s=gen[/url]

Good luck.

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:eijQoqKWKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My issue is that I cannot buy a laptop with W7 installed that is not 64
> bit. So I have to purchase a W7 upgrade CD to change to 32 bit? Or try to
> get one without W7 pre-installed?
>
> "xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uTE$KNIWKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I, for one, never encouraged or urged amyone on the net to use anything
>> unless one sees the benefits.
>>
>> You asked a question and some of us pointed you to where you could read
>> some information from which you could make your own decision.
>>
>> Gald you have and there is no need to provide any reason for your own
>> decision :)
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:#L1xASBWKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> OK, I've read all the arguments.
>>>
>>> 1. I don't need speed for what I do.
>>> a)Google
>>> b)MicroFocus COBOL (version 3.1 will never use 64 bit)
>>> c) email
>>> d)FreeCell
>>> e)applications I write in COBOL
>>> f)I can be happy with a Celeron
>>> g)network my 5 mostly laptop computers
>>> 1)one 32 bit W7 home premium
>>> 2)one 32 bit Vista home premium (soon to be W7)
>>> 3)one Vista basic on my wife's Celeron
>>> 4)one XP Pro (has apps. I can't bear to part with)
>>> 5)one old desktop XP Pro
>>>
>>> 2. I do not want to have to think abut 32 vs. 64 bit anything
>>> a)just live a simple life for a few years
>>> b)maybe my next computer will be 64 bit everything
>>> c)they go obsolete in two or three years and
>>> d)they get cheaper and cheaper.
>>> e)I just don't care
>>>
>>> 3. So why won't they make some pre-installed 32 bit W7?
>>> a)I'm not the only one who doesn't care.
>>> b)is it some upgrade plot by Microsoft?
>>>
>>> I'm an old guy - computers are just my hobby - I volunteer at senior
>>> centers - [url]www.PCHplano.com[/url]
>>>
>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OmP2pMpVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some
>>>>programs? Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:30:21 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
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> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:22:16 -0500, "Paul H"
> <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I prefer 32 bit Windows - 64 bit requires special versions of some programs?[/color]
>
>
> There are still *very* few programs that have 64-bit versions.
>[color=green]
>> Is there some benefit for 64 bit Home Premium over 32 bit?[/color]
>
>
>
> Here's my standard reply:
>
> The advantage of running a 64-bit version of Windows basically exists
> only if you also run 64-bit applications under it. Bear in mind that
> there are very few such applications available yet. If you are
> presently running 32-bit Windows, you don't have any 64-bit
> applications, so to achieve any advantage, you not only have to
> replace Windows, but also your applications, *if* (and that's a big
> "if") 64-bit versions exist.[/color]

64 bit W7 supposedly runs faster than the 32 bit *if* your processor is 64
bit. If your processor is only 32 bit you can't install the 64 bit W7.[color=blue]
>
> Also note that you will need 64-bit drivers for all your hardware.
> Those drivers may not all be available, especially if some of your
> hardware is a few years old. So it's possible that you might also have
> to replace things like your printer, scanner, etc.
>[/color]

I have had no problems loading 64 bit and 32 bit (when 64 bit is not
available) Vista drivers under W7 and neither has my son. In fact my son
had hw function better under W7 than Vista on a system sold with Vista
installed!
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> So the answer to your question is that it may not be a great idea
> right now. That will undoubtedly change in the near future, but for
> now, 64-bit Windows mostly means some extra trouble and expense for
> little or no benefit.
>
> On the other hand, installing 64-bit Windows instead of 32-bit Windows
> makes you able to buy 64-bit software as it becomes available, instead
> of the older 32-bit versions. That means that installing 64-bit
> Windows--even though it may do very little for you at present--puts
> you into a better position for the future.
>
> One additional point: the 64-bit version lets you use more than the
> approximately 3.1GB of RAM that the 32-bit version can use. Very few
> people need or can make effective use of more than 3.1GB, but if you
> are one of those who can, that's something else to consider.[/color]

To translate a car/truck saying, there's so such thing as too much RAM.