+Bob+ wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:34:12 -0500, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> No, it definitely is not, it is much leaner and faster in my experience.
>>
>> I don't know of course, but at a guess I'd say it's been highly
>> optimized taking into account the complaints about Vista and there's
>> quite a lot of new code in there - I will await Mr Ballmer's comments...
>>
>> and await for a long time I expect :)[/color]
>
> It's still clearly SP3 for Vista.[/color]

Try order Vista SP3 and let us know how that works out for you!...LOL!

MS has admitted how bad Vista is -[color=blue]
> and their solution is to charge us to fix the crappy code they sold
> us.
>
> I expect we might see some action from the Euro's on this again in
> terms selling defective products and then charging for the repairs.
> That's generally considered fraud. However, in the USA, software
> companies specifically sell you a license in order to avoid the
> portions of the UCC and state laws that govern "product"
> merchantability. I suspect there's some similar dodge in Europe -
> although the Europeans are less tolerant of nonsense and actually
> enforce their laws, unlike the Fed's here. We have to wait for some
> state AG's to act.[/color]

You're drunk right?

"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
news:g6hee5dj1agtt6o5tvis0lqtoqlultoi6a@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:34:12 -0500, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>No, it definitely is not, it is much leaner and faster in my experience.
>>
>>I don't know of course, but at a guess I'd say it's been highly
>>optimized taking into account the complaints about Vista and there's
>>quite a lot of new code in there - I will await Mr Ballmer's comments...
>>
>>and await for a long time I expect :)[/color]
>
> It's still clearly SP3 for Vista. MS has admitted how bad Vista is -
> and their solution is to charge us to fix the crappy code they sold
> us.
>[/color]
Maybe in your delusional world it's SP3. Why don't you go to the store and
hand the clerk $10 but say in your mind it's a $20.

HA HA HA HA HA HA

Well, they get the price they deserve. lol

Saucy



"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
news:f3hee5p6islcemal88uhuaat5f5q6asdof@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:26:40 -0400, "Saucy"
> <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Tell the European Commission to stop fining Microsoft hundreds of millions
>>at a time and maybe the price might come down in Europe's Euros?
>>
>>[European Union Fines Microsoft -- Again VOA News website]
>>[url]http://www.voanews.com/specialenglish/archive/2006-07/2006-07-14-voa1.cfm?CFID=307933295&CFTOKEN=73586413&jsessionid=0030d55f3cbb917b03b25a76754f33373e4a[/url]
>>
>>Saucy
>>[/color]
> **** Europeans... enforcing anti-trust laws. How dare they!!![color=green]
>>
>>
>>"Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> wrote in message
>>news:00D6A6DE-506A-4917-A7E3-E48AD0474BAE@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since
>>> 2006
>>> ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very
>>> short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive).
>>>
>>> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!!
>>> (nearly
>>> US$ 480).
>>>
>>> BUT ..... are we all crazy???????????????
>>>
>>> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!!
>>>
>>> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and
>>> switch
>>> off ONLY).
>>>
>>> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure.
>>>
>>> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it working
>>> good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good hardware, it's a
>>> nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many problems: I do not
>>> have
>>> problems of any kind).
>>>
>>> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319 euro
>>> only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few
>>> seconds.
>>>
>>> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ????????????????????????
>>>
>>> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro?
>>>
>>> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies
>>> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO
>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

"Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:uflYgP0VKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Well, they get the price they deserve. lol
>
> Saucy[/color]

Yeah but me and Alias get ours for nothing[color=blue]
>
> "+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
> news:f3hee5p6islcemal88uhuaat5f5q6asdof@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:26:40 -0400, "Saucy"
>> <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Tell the European Commission to stop fining Microsoft hundreds of
>>>millions
>>>at a time and maybe the price might come down in Europe's Euros?
>>>
>>>[European Union Fines Microsoft -- Again VOA News website]
>>>[url]http://www.voanews.com/specialenglish/archive/2006-07/2006-07-14-voa1.cfm?CFID=307933295&CFTOKEN=73586413&jsessionid=0030d55f3cbb917b03b25a76754f33373e4a[/url]
>>>
>>>Saucy
>>>[/color]
>> **** Europeans... enforcing anti-trust laws. How dare they!!![color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> wrote in message
>>>news:00D6A6DE-506A-4917-A7E3-E48AD0474BAE@microsoft.com...
>>>> I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since
>>>> 2006
>>>> ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very
>>>> short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive).
>>>>
>>>> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!!
>>>> (nearly
>>>> US$ 480).
>>>>
>>>> BUT ..... are we all crazy???????????????
>>>>
>>>> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>> Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and
>>>> switch
>>>> off ONLY).
>>>>
>>>> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure.
>>>>
>>>> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it working
>>>> good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good hardware, it's a
>>>> nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many problems: I do not
>>>> have
>>>> problems of any kind).
>>>>
>>>> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319
>>>> euro
>>>> only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few
>>>> seconds.
>>>>
>>>> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ????????????????????????
>>>>
>>>> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies
>>>> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO
>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

Cocco wrote:
[color=blue]
> VISTA2[/color]

YES!

"Vladimir Petrov" <vpetrov@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:hc7mog$kq2$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Cocco wrote:
>[color=green]
>> VISTA2[/color]
>
> YES![/color]

You keep believing that.

And you get what you pay for.

Saucy


"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:u1yHie0VKHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uflYgP0VKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Well, they get the price they deserve. lol
>>
>> Saucy[/color]
>
> Yeah but me and Alias get ours for nothing[color=green]
>>
>> "+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:f3hee5p6islcemal88uhuaat5f5q6asdof@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:26:40 -0400, "Saucy"
>>> <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Tell the European Commission to stop fining Microsoft hundreds of
>>>>millions
>>>>at a time and maybe the price might come down in Europe's Euros?
>>>>
>>>>[European Union Fines Microsoft -- Again VOA News website]
>>>>[url]http://www.voanews.com/specialenglish/archive/2006-07/2006-07-14-voa1.cfm?CFID=307933295&CFTOKEN=73586413&jsessionid=0030d55f3cbb917b03b25a76754f33373e4a[/url]
>>>>
>>>>Saucy
>>>>
>>> **** Europeans... enforcing anti-trust laws. How dare they!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> wrote in message
>>>>news:00D6A6DE-506A-4917-A7E3-E48AD0474BAE@microsoft.com...
>>>>> I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since
>>>>> 2006
>>>>> ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very
>>>>> short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive).
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!!
>>>>> (nearly
>>>>> US$ 480).
>>>>>
>>>>> BUT ..... are we all crazy???????????????
>>>>>
>>>>> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>> Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and
>>>>> switch
>>>>> off ONLY).
>>>>>
>>>>> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure.
>>>>>
>>>>> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it
>>>>> working
>>>>> good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good hardware, it's
>>>>> a
>>>>> nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many problems: I do not
>>>>> have
>>>>> problems of any kind).
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319
>>>>> euro
>>>>> only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few
>>>>> seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ????????????????????????
>>>>>
>>>>> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies
>>>>> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO
>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
>>>>>
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

[url]http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4227[/url]








"Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:00D6A6DE-506A-4917-A7E3-E48AD0474BAE@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since 2006
>ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very
>short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive).[/color]

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:29:51 -0400, "Saucy"
<saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
[color=blue]
>And you get what you pay for.
>
>Saucy[/color]

Most people are not objecting to that, they're just objecting to
paying for it twice.

+Bob+ wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:29:51 -0400, "Saucy"
> <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> And you get what you pay for.
>>
>> Saucy[/color]
>
> Most people are not objecting to that, they're just objecting to
> paying for it twice.[/color]

Which isn't really happening.

Microsoft gave out deals on software and even free software to those who
were interested in Windows 7 development.

Saucy


"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
news:23ahe5hole2onh04poma4a0iqe7j12ck76@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:29:51 -0400, "Saucy"
> <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>And you get what you pay for.
>>
>>Saucy[/color]
>
> Most people are not objecting to that, they're just objecting to
> paying for it twice.[/color]

+Bob+ wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:29:51 -0400, "Saucy"
> <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> And you get what you pay for.
>>
>> Saucy[/color]
>
> Most people are not objecting to that, they're just objecting to
> paying for it twice.[/color]

Paying for what twice? Windows? What about people that started out with
Win95? or even 3.1? They've paid more times then twice! that's the way
it goes with software, minor updates are free, major updates cost money,
this is NOT NEW!

Is Windows 7 a minor update or a major update?
This is the question!
Impossible to have a major update after a little more than 2 years
I paied a lot of money for Windows Vista Ultimate
Microsoft promised it would have been a good O.S. and a long term O.S.
I was at the top and I want ever to be on the top so I bought the top of the
line : ULTIMATE
After ONLY 2 years or little more if I want to stay again on the top I must
pay again an excessive amount
I want to say only this: THIS IS NOT CORRECT
Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!! (nearly
US$ 480): IT IS EXCESSIVE
I paied nearly same anmunt ONLY 2 years ago or little more
I repeat: THIS IS NOT CORRECT
At the end I want to say only this
I do not even consider the free software (ubuntu, linux and so on): for me
it is rubbish, this is my opinion
I want regular Microsoft O.S. but I want to pay a right price, I do not like
pirate software but now it seems a fraud



"milt" <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:OYw2SKGWKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> +Bob+ wrote:[color=green]
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:29:51 -0400, "Saucy"
>> <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>>[/color]
>
> Paying for what twice? Windows? What about people that started out with
> Win95? or even 3.1? They've paid more times then twice! that's the way it
> goes with software, minor updates are free, major updates cost money, this
> is NOT NEW![/color]

Windows 7: An impressive upgrade:
[url]http://news.zdnet.com/2463-9595_22-286664.html?tag=content;wrapper[/url]

Windows 7 Answers Forum:
[url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7[/url]


Cocco wrote:[color=blue]
> Is Windows 7 a minor update or a major update?
> This is the question!
> Impossible to have a major update after a little more than 2 years
> I paied a lot of money for Windows Vista Ultimate
> Microsoft promised it would have been a good O.S. and a long term O.S.
> I was at the top and I want ever to be on the top so I bought the top of
> the line : ULTIMATE
> After ONLY 2 years or little more if I want to stay again on the top I
> must pay again an excessive amount
> I want to say only this: THIS IS NOT CORRECT
> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!!
> (nearly US$ 480): IT IS EXCESSIVE
> I paied nearly same anmunt ONLY 2 years ago or little more
> I repeat: THIS IS NOT CORRECT
> At the end I want to say only this
> I do not even consider the free software (ubuntu, linux and so on): for
> me it is rubbish, this is my opinion
> I want regular Microsoft O.S. but I want to pay a right price, I do not
> like pirate software but now it seems a fraud
>
>
>
> "milt" <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:OYw2SKGWKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> +Bob+ wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:29:51 -0400, "Saucy"
>>> <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Paying for what twice? Windows? What about people that started out
>> with Win95? or even 3.1? They've paid more times then twice! that's
>> the way it goes with software, minor updates are free, major updates
>> cost money, this is NOT NEW![/color]
>[/color]

Microsoft provides years and years of support for its published operating
systems.

Saucy


"Vladimir Petrov" <vpetrov@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:hc5m28$adh$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Cocco wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ????????????????????????[/color]
>
> I, too, already paid for Vista and not going to pay the "protection" money
> to Microsoft every 2 to 3 years.[/color]