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| Re: Are we all crazy? Vladimir Petrov wrote:[color=blue] > Cocco wrote: >[color=green] >> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ????????????????????????[/color] > > I, too, already paid for Vista and not going to pay the "protection" > money to Microsoft every 2 to 3 years.[/color] protection money? christ, you're talking like Microsoft is the mafia! Get a grip! |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? STAN STARINSKI wrote:[color=blue] > By the way YOUR European people steal far more than Americans, henc eoyu > pay more - thanks to all your pirates. > > If you crack down on piracy then you will see lower prices, right now > you're paying the price for relaxed attitude towards pirating American > software.[/color] Most piracy comes from China and the USA. [color=blue] > > And I pay more for some European furniture here why??? > Tit-a-tet[/color] Because of the wimpy dollar, that's why. Alias |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:27:49 -0700, Kevin SmallBone wrote: [color=blue] > "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message > news:7kmma4F38rjdnU10@mid.individual.net...[color=green] >> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:14:38 +0100, Cocco wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since >>> 2006 ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very >>> short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive). >>> >>> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!! >>> (nearly US$ 480). >>> >>> BUT ..... are we all crazy??????????????? >>> >>> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!! >>> >>> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and >>> switch off ONLY). >>> >>> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure. >>> >>> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it >>> working good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good >>> hardware, it's a nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many >>> problems: I do not have problems of any kind). >>> >>> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319 >>> euro only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few >>> seconds. >>> >>> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ???????????????????????? >>> >>> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro? >>> >>> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies >>> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO >>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)[/color] >> >> Some of us regained sanity several years back and switched to Linux - >> all that money saved on OS upgrades plus free applications.[/color] > > Sure you believe you are sane. The Unabomber thought he was sane > also. You can't do any real work with Ubuntu. Ubuntu is just a TOY OS > for geeks.[/color] First, I didn't even mention Ubuntu - it ain't the only game on the block. Second, I've BEEN doing 'real work' with Linux for about 10 years now. Unless you assume that national defense is not 'real work'. |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message news:7kogmvF3a4ge7U4@mid.individual.net...[color=blue] > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:27:49 -0700, Kevin SmallBone wrote: >[color=green] >> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message >> news:7kmma4F38rjdnU10@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred] >>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:14:38 +0100, Cocco wrote: >>> >>>> I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since >>>> 2006 ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very >>>> short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive). >>>> >>>> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!! >>>> (nearly US$ 480). >>>> >>>> BUT ..... are we all crazy??????????????? >>>> >>>> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>> Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>> >>>> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!! >>>> >>>> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and >>>> switch off ONLY). >>>> >>>> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure. >>>> >>>> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it >>>> working good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good >>>> hardware, it's a nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many >>>> problems: I do not have problems of any kind). >>>> >>>> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319 >>>> euro only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few >>>> seconds. >>>> >>>> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ???????????????????????? >>>> >>>> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro? >>>> >>>> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies >>>> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO >>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >>> >>> Some of us regained sanity several years back and switched to Linux - >>> all that money saved on OS upgrades plus free applications.[/color] >> >> Sure you believe you are sane. The Unabomber thought he was sane >> also. You can't do any real work with Ubuntu. Ubuntu is just a TOY OS >> for geeks.[/color] > > First, I didn't even mention Ubuntu - it ain't the only game on the > block. Second, I've BEEN doing 'real work' with Linux for about 10 years > now. Unless you assume that national defense is not 'real work'.[/color] That's a different animal. When speaking here about Ubuntu for the most part it is in regards to home users using Ubuntu on the desktop. What you do is specialized and not what I'm talking about. I'm also not speaking about servers either. Hope that clears it up a bit. |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? I have a suggestion for Microsoft: maybe it could be better to change the name No more Windows 7 BUT VISTA2 Am I right? "Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio news:00D6A6DE-506A-4917-A7E3-E48AD0474BAE@microsoft.com...[color=blue] >I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since 2006 >ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very >short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive). > > Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!! (nearly > US$ 480). > > BUT ..... are we all crazy??????????????? > > I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!! > Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!! > > Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and switch > off ONLY). > > I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure. > > I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it working > good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good hardware, it's a > nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many problems: I do not have > problems of any kind). > > I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319 euro > only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few seconds. > > I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ???????????????????????? > > Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro? > > Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies > ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >[/color] |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? No. "Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> wrote in message news:7CBCEDFC-A725-412F-96C7-558D1B768EFA@microsoft.com...[color=blue] > I have a suggestion for Microsoft: > maybe it could be better to change the name > No more Windows 7 > BUT > VISTA2 > Am I right? >[/color] |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? NO. "Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> wrote in message news:7CBCEDFC-A725-412F-96C7-558D1B768EFA@microsoft.com...[color=blue] > I have a suggestion for Microsoft: > maybe it could be better to change the name > No more Windows 7 > BUT > VISTA2 > Am I right? > > > > "Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:00D6A6DE-506A-4917-A7E3-E48AD0474BAE@microsoft.com...[color=green] >>I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since 2006 >>ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very >>short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive). >> >> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!! (nearly >> US$ 480). >> >> BUT ..... are we all crazy??????????????? >> >> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!! >> >> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and switch >> off ONLY). >> >> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure. >> >> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it working >> good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good hardware, it's a >> nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many problems: I do not >> have problems of any kind). >> >> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319 euro >> only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few seconds. >> >> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ???????????????????????? >> >> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro? >> >> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies >> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO >> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >>[/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:09:19 -0700, Kevin SmallBone wrote: [color=blue] > "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message > news:7kogmvF3a4ge7U4@mid.individual.net...[color=green] >> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:27:49 -0700, Kevin SmallBone wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message >>> news:7kmma4F38rjdnU10@mid.individual.net... >>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:14:38 +0100, Cocco wrote: >>>> >>>>> I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since >>>>> 2006 ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very >>>>> short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive). >>>>> >>>>> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!! >>>>> (nearly US$ 480). >>>>> >>>>> BUT ..... are we all crazy??????????????? >>>>> >>>>> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA >>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!! Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>>> >>>>> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!! >>>>> >>>>> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and >>>>> switch off ONLY). >>>>> >>>>> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure. >>>>> >>>>> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it >>>>> working good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good >>>>> hardware, it's a nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many >>>>> problems: I do not have problems of any kind). >>>>> >>>>> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319 >>>>> euro only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, >>>>> few seconds. >>>>> >>>>> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ???????????????????????? >>>>> >>>>> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro? >>>>> >>>>> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies >>>>> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO >>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >>>> >>>> Some of us regained sanity several years back and switched to Linux - >>>> all that money saved on OS upgrades plus free applications. >>> >>> Sure you believe you are sane. The Unabomber thought he was sane >>> also. You can't do any real work with Ubuntu. Ubuntu is just a TOY OS >>> for geeks.[/color] >> >> First, I didn't even mention Ubuntu - it ain't the only game on the >> block. Second, I've BEEN doing 'real work' with Linux for about 10 >> years now. Unless you assume that national defense is not 'real work'.[/color] > > That's a different animal. When speaking here about Ubuntu for the most > part it is in regards to home users using Ubuntu on the desktop. What > you do is specialized and not what I'm talking about. I'm also not > speaking about servers either. Hope that clears it up a bit.[/color] First, Ubuntu is NOT the only game in town. Second, I developed software which was used by technicians to do data analysis - on a graphical desktop - I'm not speaking about servers either - hope that clears it up a bit. |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? No, it definitely is not, it is much leaner and faster in my experience. I don't know of course, but at a guess I'd say it's been highly optimized taking into account the complaints about Vista and there's quite a lot of new code in there - I will await Mr Ballmer's comments... and await for a long time I expect :) Cocco wrote:[color=blue] > I have a suggestion for Microsoft: > maybe it could be better to change the name > No more Windows 7 > BUT > VISTA2 > Am I right? > > > > "Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:00D6A6DE-506A-4917-A7E3-E48AD0474BAE@microsoft.com...[color=green] >> I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since >> 2006 ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very >> short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive). >> >> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!! >> (nearly US$ 480). >> >> BUT ..... are we all crazy??????????????? >> >> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!! >> >> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and >> switch off ONLY). >> >> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure. >> >> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it >> working good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good >> hardware, it's a nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many >> problems: I do not have problems of any kind). >> >> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319 >> euro only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few >> seconds. >> >> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ???????????????????????? >> >> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro? >> >> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies >> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO >> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >>[/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:26:40 -0400, "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote: [color=blue] >Tell the European Commission to stop fining Microsoft hundreds of millions >at a time and maybe the price might come down in Europe's Euros? > >[European Union Fines Microsoft -- Again VOA News website] >[url]http://www.voanews.com/specialenglish/archive/2006-07/2006-07-14-voa1.cfm?CFID=307933295&CFTOKEN=73586413&jsessionid=0030d55f3cbb917b03b25a76754f33373e4a[/url] > >Saucy >[/color] **** Europeans... enforcing anti-trust laws. How dare they!!![color=blue] > > >"Cocco" <liberopensatore@fastwebnet.it> wrote in message >news:00D6A6DE-506A-4917-A7E3-E48AD0474BAE@microsoft.com...[color=green] >> I work using Vista Ultimate since 2006, it was very expencive, since 2006 >> ONLY, the date Microsoft made possible to buy it (a very >> short-life-operating-system and ... expencive, very expencive). >> >> Now if I want to upgrade to W7 Ultimate I must pay 319 euro !!!!! (nearly >> US$ 480). >> >> BUT ..... are we all crazy??????????????? >> >> I proved it in a shop: BUT ................. it's VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Fellows !!!! IT'S VISTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> It's only a service pack, maybe less than a service pack!!!!! >> >> Yes it's faster but only switch on and off (computer switch on and switch >> off ONLY). >> >> I was told that it's faster ONLY coz Microsoft made it less secure. >> >> I work very well with VISTA Ultimate (it is possible to make it working >> good: you need a good hardware, surely it needs a good hardware, it's a >> nonsense to say VISTA doesn't work and it has many problems: I do not have >> problems of any kind). >> >> I do not change, I do not move from Vista, I do not want to pay 319 euro >> only to have a computer running faster in switch on and off, few seconds. >> >> I repeat: BUT ARE WE ALL CRAZY ???????????????????????? >> >> Every 2 o 3 years should I pay 300 or 400 or 500 or maybe more euro? >> >> Maybe Mr Microsoft thinks that I live making robberies >> ......................... I think w7 is a robbery instead (319 EURO >> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >>[/color][/color] |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:34:12 -0500, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net> wrote: [color=blue] >No, it definitely is not, it is much leaner and faster in my experience. > >I don't know of course, but at a guess I'd say it's been highly >optimized taking into account the complaints about Vista and there's >quite a lot of new code in there - I will await Mr Ballmer's comments... > >and await for a long time I expect :)[/color] It's still clearly SP3 for Vista. MS has admitted how bad Vista is - and their solution is to charge us to fix the crappy code they sold us. I expect we might see some action from the Euro's on this again in terms selling defective products and then charging for the repairs. That's generally considered fraud. However, in the USA, software companies specifically sell you a license in order to avoid the portions of the UCC and state laws that govern "product" merchantability. I suspect there's some similar dodge in Europe - although the Europeans are less tolerant of nonsense and actually enforce their laws, unlike the Fed's here. We have to wait for some state AG's to act. |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? +Bob+ wrote:[color=blue] > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:34:12 -0500, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net> > wrote: >[color=green] >> No, it definitely is not, it is much leaner and faster in my experience. >> >> I don't know of course, but at a guess I'd say it's been highly >> optimized taking into account the complaints about Vista and there's >> quite a lot of new code in there - I will await Mr Ballmer's comments... >> >> and await for a long time I expect :)[/color] > > It's still clearly SP3 for Vista.[/color] No wonder they didn't create any newsgroups for Win 7. Alias |
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| Re: Are we all crazy? Kevin SmallBone wrote:[color=blue] > > > "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message > news:hc532k$3f6$2@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green] >> Kevin SmallBone wrote:[color=darkred] >>> >>> >>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:hc523i$qe9$1@news.eternal-september.org... >>>> Saucy wrote: >>>>> Tell the European Commission to stop fining Microsoft hundreds of >>>>> millions at a time and maybe the price might come down in Europe's >>>>> Euros? >>>>> >>>>> [European Union Fines Microsoft -- Again VOA News website] >>>>> [url]http://www.voanews.com/specialenglish/archive/2006-07/2006-07-14-voa1.cfm?CFID=307933295&CFTOKEN=73586413&jsessionid=0030d55f3cbb917b03b25a76754f33373e4a[/url] >>>>> Saucy >>>> >>>> >>>> Lame and totally illogical excuse. Monopolistic behavior should be >>>> corrected. Microsoft customers shouldn't have to pay their fines and >>>> you should be ashamed of saying they should. The EU doesn't set MS >>>> prices; MS does. >>>> >>>> Alias >>>>> >>> Hey dork, you are responding to an idiot. Did you even read the >>> post? He's just like you and Kevin. >>> >>> >>>[/color] >> >> I was replying to Saucy. >> >> Try to keep up. >> >> Alias[/color] > > OK fine. You are still an idiot. > > >[/color] You're the idiot who couldn't keep up. Alias |
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