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Old 10-25-2009, 11:50 PM
Nikilet
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No choice in whether to have UAC on or off

I'm not computer smart enough to know if UAC works. I had gotten used to
clicking on the pop ups and it didn't bother me. But recently I had no choice
and had to turn it off. After I upgraded to BitDefender Internet Security
2010 there were no records of scan logs anywhere, not in the program face and
not in my C drive. Even right on the scan results window, when I clicked to
View Log absolutely nothing happened.

In order to get a decent install of BDIS 2010 I had to uninstall it and then
reinstall with UAC turned off (suggested by a BD forum moderator). So when I
searched my fool head off for logs and couldn't find them, on a lark I turned
UAC off again (I had turned it back on after reinstall of BDIS), restarted,
performed a scan and the logs were all in the proper places and viewable.

I'd just as soon have UAC turned on, but I much prefer being able to access
and view my security scan logs so I'm operating with it off.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:50 AM
STAN STARINSKI
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Re: No choice in whether to have UAC on or off

Just disable **** thing forever
Life's too short to fight with nonsense.
Practice safe computing - betetr than any UAC or artificial solutions
someone invented thousands of miles away and pushing down your throat.

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Old 10-26-2009, 11:00 AM
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Re: No choice in whether to have UAC on or off


"STAN STARINSKI" <Chyna@stealsUSJobsPatentsSoftwareMusicVideo> wrote in
message news:ubGId0mVKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Just disable **** thing forever
> Life's too short to fight with nonsense.
> Practice safe computing - betetr than any UAC or artificial solutions
> someone invented thousands of miles away and pushing down your throat.[/color]

But people DON'T practice safe computing - that's why UAC was introduced.
And if you've ever used any *nix OS you will know that they have had a
similar setup ALWAYS. *nix users are used to this and just accept it...

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Old 10-26-2009, 11:00 AM
Kevin SmallBone
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Re: No choice in whether to have UAC on or off



"Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
news:e#A8e2mVKHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
>
> "STAN STARINSKI" <Chyna@stealsUSJobsPatentsSoftwareMusicVideo> wrote in
> message news:ubGId0mVKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Just disable **** thing forever
>> Life's too short to fight with nonsense.
>> Practice safe computing - betetr than any UAC or artificial solutions
>> someone invented thousands of miles away and pushing down your throat.[/color]
>
> But people DON'T practice safe computing - that's why UAC was introduced.
> And if you've ever used any *nix OS you will know that they have had a
> similar setup ALWAYS. *nix users are used to this and just accept it...[/color]

Err - Do you practice Safe Net Cop activities? Err <sigh> Umm.



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Old 10-26-2009, 11:10 AM
Dave-UK
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Re: No choice in whether to have UAC on or off


"Nikilet" <Nikilet@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E4F67F47-4805-4B04-B4B0-A2A992017D99@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I'm not computer smart enough to know if UAC works. I had gotten used to
> clicking on the pop ups and it didn't bother me. But recently I had no choice
> and had to turn it off. After I upgraded to BitDefender Internet Security
> 2010 there were no records of scan logs anywhere, not in the program face and
> not in my C drive. Even right on the scan results window, when I clicked to
> View Log absolutely nothing happened.
>
> In order to get a decent install of BDIS 2010 I had to uninstall it and then
> reinstall with UAC turned off (suggested by a BD forum moderator). So when I
> searched my fool head off for logs and couldn't find them, on a lark I turned
> UAC off again (I had turned it back on after reinstall of BDIS), restarted,
> performed a scan and the logs were all in the proper places and viewable.
>
> I'd just as soon have UAC turned on, but I much prefer being able to access
> and view my security scan logs so I'm operating with it off.[/color]

I feel like I am talking to a brick wall with you as you seem
reluctant or unable to respond to any replies to your posts.
Maybe I'm in your killfile.

UAC is a major security improvement over previous versions of
Windows and, for somebody who, by your own admission, is not
computer-smart enough to know if UAC works, to have it turned
off is not to be recommended.
If you do run with no UAC at least find out about the benefits
you are losing.

It also affects Internet Explorer, (if you use IE), as you are now
running with Protected mode off (look at the status bar).
What you are doing is disabling the built-in protection that Vista
gives you just to see the pointless logs of some buggy antivirus program.

If you do see anything in the logs it will be because you have UAC off,
and it may be too late by then.
Good luck.


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Old 10-26-2009, 12:00 PM
Charlie Tame
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Re: No choice in whether to have UAC on or off

Gordon wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "STAN STARINSKI" <Chyna@stealsUSJobsPatentsSoftwareMusicVideo> wrote in
> message news:ubGId0mVKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Just disable **** thing forever
>> Life's too short to fight with nonsense.
>> Practice safe computing - betetr than any UAC or artificial solutions
>> someone invented thousands of miles away and pushing down your throat.[/color]
>
> But people DON'T practice safe computing - that's why UAC was introduced.
> And if you've ever used any *nix OS you will know that they have had a
> similar setup ALWAYS. *nix users are used to this and just accept it...[/color]


Well it is annoying that to (Say) reset the time to internet time (As
they call it) I have to answer two prompts from UAC rather than one as
in Ubuntu for example, but the real value of UAC is that it also nails
rogue programs that the user may not have started out of ignorance, but
rather have been started by some other program...

With all the dubious web pages and other stuff out there I can see it's
benefits, especially for the less knowledgeable user.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:00 PM
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Re: No choice in whether to have UAC on or off



"Nikilet" <Nikilet@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E4F67F47-4805-4B04-B4B0-A2A992017D99@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I'm not computer smart enough to know if UAC works. I had gotten used to
> clicking on the pop ups and it didn't bother me. But recently I had no
> choice
> and had to turn it off. After I upgraded to BitDefender Internet Security
> 2010 there were no records of scan logs anywhere, not in the program face
> and
> not in my C drive. Even right on the scan results window, when I clicked
> to
> View Log absolutely nothing happened.
>
> In order to get a decent install of BDIS 2010 I had to uninstall it and
> then
> reinstall with UAC turned off (suggested by a BD forum moderator). So when
> I
> searched my fool head off for logs and couldn't find them, on a lark I
> turned
> UAC off again (I had turned it back on after reinstall of BDIS),
> restarted,
> performed a scan and the logs were all in the proper places and viewable.
>
> I'd just as soon have UAC turned on, but I much prefer being able to
> access
> and view my security scan logs so I'm operating with it off.[/color]

You do have the choice between on and off, but it's best to leave it on,
unless you 'temporarily' need to disable it for whatever credible or
incredible reason.
BTW don't you believe in 'feedback', meaning 'answering replies'?

Harry.

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