Hi All,

I have a customer with two Vista 64 bits home editions
trying to run software that explicitly states its does
not work with 64 bit Vista. Oh, what a mess!

Question: if I switch her to 32 bit W7 Pro, will Vista's
"windows easy transfer" data file work with the transition
from 64 bit Vista home to 32 bit W7 Pro?

Many thanks,
-T

"ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:uPak31dVKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi All,
>
> I have a customer with two Vista 64 bits home editions
> trying to run software that explicitly states its does
> not work with 64 bit Vista. Oh, what a mess!
>
> Question: if I switch her to 32 bit W7 Pro, will Vista's
> "windows easy transfer" data file work with the transition
> from 64 bit Vista home to 32 bit W7 Pro?
>
> Many thanks,
> -T[/color]

Don't know - but have you thought of running a 32 bit version of Windows in
a Virtual PC for this application? Might be a lot easier than changing oSs
completely...

Gordon wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:uPak31dVKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have a customer with two Vista 64 bits home editions
>> trying to run software that explicitly states its does
>> not work with 64 bit Vista. Oh, what a mess!
>>
>> Question: if I switch her to 32 bit W7 Pro, will Vista's
>> "windows easy transfer" data file work with the transition
>> from 64 bit Vista home to 32 bit W7 Pro?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T[/color]
>
> Don't know - but have you thought of running a 32 bit version of Windows
> in a Virtual PC for this application? Might be a lot easier than
> changing oSs completely...[/color]

Before I'd run a virtual machine, I'd just put XP on it. But HP
and their nVidia chipset can be a hassle to convert to XP. So,
I was thinking of dumping 64 bit Vista for 32 bit W7 as a
compromise (a compromise with chipset drivers available).

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:12:02 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
[color=blue]
> Gordon wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:uPak31dVKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have a customer with two Vista 64 bits home editions
>>> trying to run software that explicitly states its does
>>> not work with 64 bit Vista. Oh, what a mess!
>>>
>>> Question: if I switch her to 32 bit W7 Pro, will Vista's
>>> "windows easy transfer" data file work with the transition
>>> from 64 bit Vista home to 32 bit W7 Pro?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> -T[/color]
>>
>> Don't know - but have you thought of running a 32 bit version of Windows
>> in a Virtual PC for this application? Might be a lot easier than
>> changing oSs completely...[/color]
>
> Before I'd run a virtual machine, I'd just put XP on it. But HP
> and their nVidia chipset can be a hassle to convert to XP. So,
> I was thinking of dumping 64 bit Vista for 32 bit W7 as a
> compromise (a compromise with chipset drivers available).[/color]

Why "Before I'd run a virtual machine"? It's not that hard, it's effective
(usually!), and does the job. It can even be free, as in VMware reader at
the VMware site,
[url]http://communities.vmware.com/community/beta/player?build=197124[/url]

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

Gene E. Bloch wrote:[color=blue]
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:12:02 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Gordon wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uPak31dVKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I have a customer with two Vista 64 bits home editions
>>>> trying to run software that explicitly states its does
>>>> not work with 64 bit Vista. Oh, what a mess!
>>>>
>>>> Question: if I switch her to 32 bit W7 Pro, will Vista's
>>>> "windows easy transfer" data file work with the transition
>>>> from 64 bit Vista home to 32 bit W7 Pro?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> -T
>>> Don't know - but have you thought of running a 32 bit version of Windows
>>> in a Virtual PC for this application? Might be a lot easier than
>>> changing oSs completely...[/color]
>> Before I'd run a virtual machine, I'd just put XP on it. But HP
>> and their nVidia chipset can be a hassle to convert to XP. So,
>> I was thinking of dumping 64 bit Vista for 32 bit W7 as a
>> compromise (a compromise with chipset drivers available).[/color]
>
> Why "Before I'd run a virtual machine"? It's not that hard, it's effective
> (usually!), and does the job. It can even be free, as in VMware reader at
> the VMware site,
> [url]http://communities.vmware.com/community/beta/player?build=197124[/url]
>[/color]

Gene,

I use the hell out of VM's. The goal is what is best for the
customer, not what is fun for you. If what you are trying
to run in the VM will run EVERYTHING you want to run, then
you run it natively. Not so much fun for you, but perfect
for the customer.

-T

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:30:48 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
[color=blue]
> Gene E. Bloch wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:12:02 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Gordon wrote:
>>>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uPak31dVKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a customer with two Vista 64 bits home editions
>>>>> trying to run software that explicitly states its does
>>>>> not work with 64 bit Vista. Oh, what a mess!
>>>>>
>>>>> Question: if I switch her to 32 bit W7 Pro, will Vista's
>>>>> "windows easy transfer" data file work with the transition
>>>>> from 64 bit Vista home to 32 bit W7 Pro?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> -T
>>>> Don't know - but have you thought of running a 32 bit version of Windows
>>>> in a Virtual PC for this application? Might be a lot easier than
>>>> changing oSs completely...
>>> Before I'd run a virtual machine, I'd just put XP on it. But HP
>>> and their nVidia chipset can be a hassle to convert to XP. So,
>>> I was thinking of dumping 64 bit Vista for 32 bit W7 as a
>>> compromise (a compromise with chipset drivers available).[/color]
>>
>> Why "Before I'd run a virtual machine"? It's not that hard, it's effective
>> (usually!), and does the job. It can even be free, as in VMware reader at
>> the VMware site,
>> [url]http://communities.vmware.com/community/beta/player?build=197124[/url]
>>[/color]
>
> Gene,
>
> I use the hell out of VM's. The goal is what is best for the
> customer, not what is fun for you. If what you are trying
> to run in the VM will run EVERYTHING you want to run, then
> you run it natively. Not so much fun for you, but perfect
> for the customer.
>
> -T[/color]

What you first wrote didn't seem to me to say anything like that; rather,
you made it seem like you were VM-averse...For one thing, you said "Before
I'd run a virtual machine", not "before I'd set up a customer to run one".
And where did I talk about what is fun for me? I talked about what is
effective, which you could see if you read my post.

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

Gene E. Bloch wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:30:48 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:12:02 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gordon wrote:
>>>>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uPak31dVKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a customer with two Vista 64 bits home editions
>>>>>> trying to run software that explicitly states its does
>>>>>> not work with 64 bit Vista. Oh, what a mess!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question: if I switch her to 32 bit W7 Pro, will Vista's
>>>>>> "windows easy transfer" data file work with the transition
>>>>>> from 64 bit Vista home to 32 bit W7 Pro?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>> -T
>>>>> Don't know - but have you thought of running a 32 bit version of Windows
>>>>> in a Virtual PC for this application? Might be a lot easier than
>>>>> changing oSs completely...
>>>> Before I'd run a virtual machine, I'd just put XP on it. But HP
>>>> and their nVidia chipset can be a hassle to convert to XP. So,
>>>> I was thinking of dumping 64 bit Vista for 32 bit W7 as a
>>>> compromise (a compromise with chipset drivers available).
>>> Why "Before I'd run a virtual machine"? It's not that hard, it's effective
>>> (usually!), and does the job. It can even be free, as in VMware reader at
>>> the VMware site,
>>> [url]http://communities.vmware.com/community/beta/player?build=197124[/url]
>>>[/color]
>> Gene,
>>
>> I use the hell out of VM's. The goal is what is best for the
>> customer, not what is fun for you. If what you are trying
>> to run in the VM will run EVERYTHING you want to run, then
>> you run it natively. Not so much fun for you, but perfect
>> for the customer.
>>
>> -T[/color]
>
> What you first wrote didn't seem to me to say anything like that; rather,
> you made it seem like you were VM-averse...For one thing, you said "Before
> I'd run a virtual machine", not "before I'd set up a customer to run one".
> And where did I talk about what is fun for me? I talked about what is
> effective, which you could see if you read my post.
>[/color]
Hi Gene,

I apologize. I misinterpreted you as trying to
save Vista at any cost/hassle to the customer.

-T

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:56:11 -0800, ToddAndMargo wrote:
[color=blue]
> Gene E. Bloch wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:30:48 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:12:02 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gordon wrote:
>>>>>> "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uPak31dVKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a customer with two Vista 64 bits home editions
>>>>>>> trying to run software that explicitly states its does
>>>>>>> not work with 64 bit Vista. Oh, what a mess!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question: if I switch her to 32 bit W7 Pro, will Vista's
>>>>>>> "windows easy transfer" data file work with the transition
>>>>>>> from 64 bit Vista home to 32 bit W7 Pro?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>> -T
>>>>>> Don't know - but have you thought of running a 32 bit version of Windows
>>>>>> in a Virtual PC for this application? Might be a lot easier than
>>>>>> changing oSs completely...
>>>>> Before I'd run a virtual machine, I'd just put XP on it. But HP
>>>>> and their nVidia chipset can be a hassle to convert to XP. So,
>>>>> I was thinking of dumping 64 bit Vista for 32 bit W7 as a
>>>>> compromise (a compromise with chipset drivers available).
>>>> Why "Before I'd run a virtual machine"? It's not that hard, it's effective
>>>> (usually!), and does the job. It can even be free, as in VMware reader at
>>>> the VMware site,
>>>> [url]http://communities.vmware.com/community/beta/player?build=197124[/url]
>>>>
>>> Gene,
>>>
>>> I use the hell out of VM's. The goal is what is best for the
>>> customer, not what is fun for you. If what you are trying
>>> to run in the VM will run EVERYTHING you want to run, then
>>> you run it natively. Not so much fun for you, but perfect
>>> for the customer.
>>>
>>> -T[/color]
>>
>> What you first wrote didn't seem to me to say anything like that; rather,
>> you made it seem like you were VM-averse...For one thing, you said "Before
>> I'd run a virtual machine", not "before I'd set up a customer to run one".
>> And where did I talk about what is fun for me? I talked about what is
>> effective, which you could see if you read my post.
>>[/color]
> Hi Gene,
>
> I apologize. I misinterpreted you as trying to
> save Vista at any cost/hassle to the customer.
>
> -T[/color]

Now I ask you, would I do such a thing? :-)

Joking aside, I like Vista fine for myself (with some reservations), but
IMO the VM suggestion seemed very practical for the OP. I run XP in a VM on
this Vista machine, because I have some gear that the manufacturers don't
support in Vista. They are Philips & Universal remote controls that are
programmable over USB. The software runs, but in Vista it won't talk to the
remotes.

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom