"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbv0tg$q2l$3@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Kevin SmallBone wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hbuu7a$6d8$2@news.eternal-september.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Kevin SmallBone wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hbus7g$lgn$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>>>> It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
>>>>>> [sic] command.
>>>>>
>>>>> What!? Use a *command* *line*? I thought cryptic command line commands
>>>>> were only for Linux. Oh well, there goes another of the Windows fan
>>>>> boys and girls' arguments right out the proverbial Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Cryptic line commands are for Linux retards. Linux is going bye bye
>>>> anyway so it really doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> Um, the OP was talking about cryptic command lines for Windows 7. Please
>>> try to keep up, moron.
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>> They were talking about activation. With Ubuntu, you need cryptic line
>> commands to configure everything. That is why Ubuntu is rejected by most
>> who try it. Try to keep up, moron.[/color]
>
> I haven't used a command line in Ubuntu in over two years as there is no
> need with Ubuntu. There are GUIs for everything anyone would need.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>>[/color][/color]
BULL****.

Kevin SmallBone wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbv11j$q2l$4@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Saucy wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> It is amazing how little one has to actually ever use a command line
>>> in Windows. Most people never have to.[/color]
>>
>> I used one yesterday to change Acer's lame recovery disk install that
>> installs XP in FAT32. No GUI in XP to convert FAT32 into NTFS.
>>
>> With Ubuntu, I haven't had to use a command line in over two years.
>>[/color]
>
> Of course you haven't had to use a line command. You don't do anything
> with Ubuntu so there is no need.
>
>
>
>[/color]

You are not here. You are not looking over my shoulder. You don't have a
****ing clue as to what I do with my computer yet you lie and lamely
claim you do.

Alias

I tend not to read along the name calling threads too much.

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbv0pf$q2l$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
>
>
> LOL! I guess you have Frank and the nymshifter kill filed.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]

Oh please, don't be so childish. No, Windows is not aping anything at all.
Windows has a command line environment, the latest rendition of NT (Windows
7) has a particularly robust command line capabilities. Do other operating
systems employ shells? Yes. UNIX is well known for its dependency on the
command line, Apple's OSes also employ command line shells. The near
innumerable Linux variants and distros employ shells / code libraries / etc.
etc. . So what? Did you think it was going to be punch cards forever?

Does Microsoft innovate? Sure they do. Does anyone invent anything from
scratch in the IT industry? Depends how one looks at it. You can't have an
electronic computer unless someone has discovered electricity and learned
how to manipulate it, can one? Things tend to be innovated on top of
previous achievements. That goes for all of 'em. No VLSI before MSI.

They [Microsoft] have hundreds maybe thousands of programmers. Microsoft
even invented a programming language and had it certified by ECMA. And when
it comes to command line shells, they created Monad - which hooks command
line commands and scripting into the .NET Framework.

To say they [Microsoft] don't innovate is as silly as your other statement
about never using the command line in Windows. It's one of these catch all
slogans that mean nothing: 'used as a tool to manipulate the emotions of
people who haven't thought things through.

Saucy


"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbv11j$q2l$4@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
>
> So Windows is aping Ubuntu with both their GUI and the command line. Well,
> we know that Microsoft steals ideas as they don't innovate or invent
> *anything*.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]

Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
> To say they [Microsoft] don't innovate is as silly as your other
> statement about never using the command line in Windows. It's one of
> these catch all slogans that mean nothing: 'used as a tool to manipulate
> the emotions of people who haven't thought things through.[/color]

If you don't mind my butting in, I know how to use a command line if I
need it, but I haven't needed to use one since Win95, and that was only
because a friend *collected* infections of all kinds and managed to
really mess things up like a professional. (I still laugh about it.)

Once installed and running, just how much does Ubuntu rely on command
lines without offering a 'click' option? (I know, I know. That wasn't
very technical, but pretend I'm a newbie.)

Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
> What lies? I'm puzzled. Who in their right mind has ever said that? I've
> never heard anyone say one never has to use a command line in Windows,
> nor any operating system for that matter. Reread your reply and imagine
> just how childish (and even silly) your accusation sounds.
>
> Saucy
>[/color]

It's true. "Never needing to use a command line in Windows" is one of
the main points touted by many Windows fans to demonstrate that Windows
is supposedly more user friendly than linux for a desktop environment.
But times change. Maybe MS is seeing the light that having a more
powerful command line is a benefit, even thought not everyone might
choose to use it. Not ever needing to use a command line in Windows may
have once been true, but I don't think it's true anymore.
[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbutdj$vb5$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Saucy wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Get a grip Alias.[/color]
>>
>> I'm not upset.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> You know very well NT systems - and especially Windows 7 - have a
>>> very robust commandline [sic] environment. I say especially Windows 7
>>> because it arrives equipped with the capable PowerShell (Monad)
>>> commandline [sic] shell out-of-the-box, which enables scripting of
>>> the .NET framework [on top of everything else].
>>>
>>> Saucy[/color]
>>
>> Thanks for confirming the lies that Windows doesn't need to use a
>> command line.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hbus7g$lgn$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>>> It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a
>>>>> commandline [sic] command.
>>>>
>>>> What!? Use a *command* *line*? I thought cryptic command line
>>>> commands were only for Linux. Oh well, there goes another of the
>>>> Windows fan boys and girls' arguments right out the proverbial Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>[/color][/color][/color]



--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
[url]http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101[/url]

Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
> Oh please, don't be so childish.[/color]

Saucy, what do you expect from a childish troll?

Well come on, sure, most tasks can be done through the GUI, but as anyone
who's ever followed the instructions of a KB article knows, occasionally
there's resort to the command line. Windows is very user friendly, and many
people use Windows a lot w/o ever typing in a command line command, but it's
there and it's sometimes convenient for "techy" tasks such as clean
installing Windows 7 using the upgrade media. Command line scripting is also
useful in some environments to automate tasks etc. etc. If someone has said
this isn't so, surely you didn't take them seriously?

Saucy


"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"
<me211@privacy.net> wrote in message news:hbvaal$cvn$1@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Saucy wrote:[color=green]
>> What lies? I'm puzzled. Who in their right mind has ever said that? I've
>> never heard anyone say one never has to use a command line in Windows,
>> nor any operating system for that matter. Reread your reply and imagine
>> just how childish (and even silly) your accusation sounds.
>>
>> Saucy
>>[/color]
>
> It's true. "Never needing to use a command line in Windows" is one of the
> main points touted by many Windows fans to demonstrate that Windows is
> supposedly more user friendly than linux for a desktop environment. But
> times change. Maybe MS is seeing the light that having a more powerful
> command line is a benefit, even thought not everyone might choose to use
> it. Not ever needing to use a command line in Windows may have once been
> true, but I don't think it's true anymore.
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hbutdj$vb5$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>> Get a grip Alias.
>>>
>>> I'm not upset.
>>>
>>>> You know very well NT systems - and especially Windows 7 - have a very
>>>> robust commandline [sic] environment. I say especially Windows 7
>>>> because it arrives equipped with the capable PowerShell (Monad)
>>>> commandline [sic] shell out-of-the-box, which enables scripting of the
>>>> .NET framework [on top of everything else].
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>> Thanks for confirming the lies that Windows doesn't need to use a
>>> command line.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hbus7g$lgn$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>>>> It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
>>>>>> [sic] command.
>>>>>
>>>>> What!? Use a *command* *line*? I thought cryptic command line commands
>>>>> were only for Linux. Oh well, there goes another of the Windows fan
>>>>> boys and girls' arguments right out the proverbial Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>[/color][/color]
>
>
>
> --
> "Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
> - Linus Torvalds
>
> DRM and unintended consequences:
> [url]http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101[/url][/color]

Day to day stuff and most system stuff can be done through GUIs. Hey - just
about everything can be done through a GUI if someone wants to code the GUI
program. But occasionally one uses the command line for some "techy" tasks
such as clean installing Windows 7 using the upgrade media .. and in some
environments it's used with scripts to automate.

Saucy


"KristleBawl" <KristleBawl@some.email> wrote in message
news:udmuc9LVKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Saucy wrote:[color=green]
>> To say they [Microsoft] don't innovate is as silly as your other
>> statement about never using the command line in Windows. It's one of
>> these catch all slogans that mean nothing: 'used as a tool to manipulate
>> the emotions of people who haven't thought things through.[/color]
>
> If you don't mind my butting in, I know how to use a command line if I
> need it, but I haven't needed to use one since Win95, and that was only
> because a friend *collected* infections of all kinds and managed to really
> mess things up like a professional. (I still laugh about it.)
>
> Once installed and running, just how much does Ubuntu rely on command
> lines without offering a 'click' option? (I know, I know. That wasn't
> very technical, but pretend I'm a newbie.)[/color]

What Paul Thurrott neglected to mention is his workaround hack will not
pass the Windows Genuine Advantage validation. So those who use his
hack will soon find they'll need to purchase a Windows 7 "Full Version"
license.


Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
> Day to day stuff and most system stuff can be done through GUIs. Hey -
> just about everything can be done through a GUI if someone wants to code
> the GUI program. But occasionally one uses the command line for some
> "techy" tasks such as clean installing Windows 7 using the upgrade media
> .. and in some environments it's used with scripts to automate.
>
> Saucy
>
>
> "KristleBawl" <KristleBawl@some.email> wrote in message
> news:udmuc9LVKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Saucy wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> To say they [Microsoft] don't innovate is as silly as your other
>>> statement about never using the command line in Windows. It's one of
>>> these catch all slogans that mean nothing: 'used as a tool to
>>> manipulate the emotions of people who haven't thought things through.[/color]
>>
>> If you don't mind my butting in, I know how to use a command line if I
>> need it, but I haven't needed to use one since Win95, and that was
>> only because a friend *collected* infections of all kinds and managed
>> to really mess things up like a professional. (I still laugh about it.)
>>
>> Once installed and running, just how much does Ubuntu rely on command
>> lines without offering a 'click' option? (I know, I know. That wasn't
>> very technical, but pretend I'm a newbie.)[/color]
>[/color]

Passes here. I tested downloading the Powershell 1.0 from the Microsoft
website, something which requires validation i.e. a computer with a 'clean
install using the upgrade media' (don't worry, we pay for our software) was
tested and validation went through OK, no problem.

I would venture, then, that your source is incorrect.

Saucy



"David B." <davidbeezier******.com> wrote in message
news:4AE35727.7010703******.com...[color=blue]
> What Paul Thurrott neglected to mention is his workaround hack will not
> pass the Windows Genuine Advantage validation. So those who use his hack
> will soon find they'll need to purchase a Windows 7 "Full Version"
> license.
>
>
> Saucy wrote:[color=green]
>> Day to day stuff and most system stuff can be done through GUIs. Hey -
>> just about everything can be done through a GUI if someone wants to code
>> the GUI program. But occasionally one uses the command line for some
>> "techy" tasks such as clean installing Windows 7 using the upgrade media
>> .. and in some environments it's used with scripts to automate.
>>
>> Saucy
>>
>>
>> "KristleBawl" <KristleBawl@some.email> wrote in message
>> news:udmuc9LVKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>> To say they [Microsoft] don't innovate is as silly as your other
>>>> statement about never using the command line in Windows. It's one of
>>>> these catch all slogans that mean nothing: 'used as a tool to
>>>> manipulate the emotions of people who haven't thought things through.
>>>
>>> If you don't mind my butting in, I know how to use a command line if I
>>> need it, but I haven't needed to use one since Win95, and that was only
>>> because a friend *collected* infections of all kinds and managed to
>>> really mess things up like a professional. (I still laugh about it.)
>>>
>>> Once installed and running, just how much does Ubuntu rely on command
>>> lines without offering a 'click' option? (I know, I know. That wasn't
>>> very technical, but pretend I'm a newbie.)[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

"David B." <davidbeezier******.com> wrote in message
news:4AE35727.7010703******.com...[color=blue]
> What Paul Thurrott neglected to mention is his workaround hack will not
> pass the Windows Genuine Advantage validation. So those who use his hack
> will soon find they'll need to purchase a Windows 7 "Full Version"
> license.
>
>[/color]

I don't know if that's the case, but if it's true, all they need to do
is a clean Win 7 Upgrade install, without reformatting. It will then
accept the upgrade product key and activate.

[color=blue]
> Saucy wrote:[color=green]
>> Day to day stuff and most system stuff can be done through GUIs. Hey -
>> just about everything can be done through a GUI if someone wants to code
>> the GUI program. But occasionally one uses the command line for some
>> "techy" tasks such as clean installing Windows 7 using the upgrade media
>> .. and in some environments it's used with scripts to automate.
>>
>> Saucy
>>
>>
>> "KristleBawl" <KristleBawl@some.email> wrote in message
>> news:udmuc9LVKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>> To say they [Microsoft] don't innovate is as silly as your other
>>>> statement about never using the command line in Windows. It's one of
>>>> these catch all slogans that mean nothing: 'used as a tool to
>>>> manipulate the emotions of people who haven't thought things through.
>>>
>>> If you don't mind my butting in, I know how to use a command line if I
>>> need it, but I haven't needed to use one since Win95, and that was only
>>> because a friend *collected* infections of all kinds and managed to
>>> really mess things up like a professional. (I still laugh about it.)
>>>
>>> Once installed and running, just how much does Ubuntu rely on command
>>> lines without offering a 'click' option? (I know, I know. That wasn't
>>> very technical, but pretend I'm a newbie.)[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it :)



"Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:eQQgwTKVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.
>
> Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
> command.
>
> First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the install
> routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
> activate when online checkbox.
>
> Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:
>
> - navigate to
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE
>
> - change
>
> MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".
>
> Then do the commandline:
>
> - At a Cmd Prompt type in:
>
> slmgr /rearm
>
> - then hit Enter
>
> - Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.
>
> You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control Panel.
>
> That's it.
>
> Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his WinSuperSite:
>
> [Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
> [url]http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp[/url]
>
> Saucy
>
>[/color]

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it :)



"Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:eQQgwTKVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.
>
> Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
> command.
>
> First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the install
> routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
> activate when online checkbox.
>
> Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:
>
> - navigate to
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE
>
> - change
>
> MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".
>
> Then do the commandline:
>
> - At a Cmd Prompt type in:
>
> slmgr /rearm
>
> - then hit Enter
>
> - Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.
>
> You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control Panel.
>
> That's it.
>
> Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his WinSuperSite:
>
> [Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
> [url]http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp[/url]
>
> Saucy
>
>[/color]

xfile wrote:[color=blue]
> I have a better solution:
>
> Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
> Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
> activation. Voila!
>
> That's how I did it :)[/color]

Does it pass WAT?

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> news:eQQgwTKVKHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.
>>
>> Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
>> command.
>>
>> First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the install
>> routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
>> activate when online checkbox.
>>
>> Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:
>>
>> - navigate to
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE
>>
>> - change
>>
>> MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".
>>
>> Then do the commandline:
>>
>> - At a Cmd Prompt type in:
>>
>> slmgr /rearm
>>
>> - then hit Enter
>>
>> - Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.
>>
>> You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
>> Panel.
>>
>> That's it.
>>
>> Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
>> WinSuperSite:
>>
>> [Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
>> [url]http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp[/url]
>>
>> Saucy
>>
>>[/color][/color]