Gordon wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hcf55g$qf6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Gordon wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hcf393$5g2$5@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Gordon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Black Baptist" <pray@the.church.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9CB4799173596praythechurchcom@209.197.15.238...
>>>>>> Alias <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in news:hceuor$uen$2
>>>>>> @news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Black Baptist wrote:
>>>>>>>> Kevin John Panzke <kevin.panzke******.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:e1034349-89a3-
>>>>>>>> [email]45f2-9d29-aede3ce3c310@l33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com[/email]:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WINDOWS 7 FORUMS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> where are the WINDOWS 7 FORUMS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None available, sorry. And it looks like Micro**** wants to control
>>>>>>> what's posted about Windows so there won't be any and there's a good
>>>>>>> chance ALL MS newsgroups will be nuked.. You know what control
>>>>>>> freaks
>>>>>>> they are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was a fast reply :)
>>>>>
>>>>> And incorrect. Yes there are no Windows 7 NEWSGROUPS on the MS NNTP
>>>>> server. There is however an official MS Windows 7 FORUM. (The two
>>>>> are different).
>>>>> Go here:
>>>>> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7[/url]
>>>>
>>>> If you want to call that a "forum", be my guest. I most certainly
>>>> don't.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> And what WOULD you call a "forum" then, other than a discussion board
>>> that is accessed via a web browser and not a News reader?[/color]
>>
>> One where free speech is allowed.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> There's certainly some free speech there.
> Look at this thread:
> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/thread/0e9116fb-91d0-4097-880d-a59de65a17cb[/url]
>
> Scroll down to the posts by Red AKA Microsoft hater.[/color]

Yeah, but he wants to like MS. Try mentioning Ubuntu there and see how
long the post lasts.

Alias

Gordon wrote:

SNIP[color=blue]
>
> There's certainly some free speech there.
> Look at this thread:
> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-[/url][/color]
US/w7install/thread/0e9116fb-91d0-4097-880d-a59de65a17cb[color=blue]
> Scroll down to the posts by Red AKA Microsoft hater.[/color]

But, since they can trace his IP , several MVPs are on their way with
baseball bats.

Another client coming my way.

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Black Baptist wrote:[color=green]
>> Kevin John Panzke <kevin.panzke******.com> wrote in news:e1034349-89a3-
>> [email]45f2-9d29-aede3ce3c310@l33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com[/email]:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> WINDOWS 7 FORUMS[/color]
>>
>> where are the WINDOWS 7 FORUMS?[/color]
>
> None available, sorry. And it looks like Micro**** wants to control
> what's posted about Windows so there won't be any and there's a good
> chance ALL MS newsgroups will be nuked.. You know what control freaks
> they are.
>
> Alias[/color]

If this is also Ballmer's style (controlling/dominating), I feel so
sorry for his wife in bed!

--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
[url]http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101[/url]

Someone expressed an opinion:[color=blue]
> Gordon wrote:[color=green]
>> There's certainly some free speech there.
>> Look at this thread:
>> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/thread/0e9116fb-91d0-4097-880d-a59de65a17cb[/url]
>>
>> Scroll down to the posts by Red AKA Microsoft hater.[/color]
>
> Yeah, but he wants to like MS. Try mentioning Ubuntu there and see how
> long the post lasts.
>
> Alias[/color]

That's why you get called a troll, instead of an advocate. The name of
the group is m.p.WINDOWS.VISTA.general, not m.p.general, so that itself
means that all topics should be about Vista, not Mac or *nix. You
stretch the line by comparing Vista with another OS.

Several Mozilla posters mistakenly believe Firefox and Thunderbird,
which have Win/Mac/*nix versions, needs separate newsgroups for each
individual OS. Those groups are program-specific and these are all
Windows OS groups.

Contrary to your belief, discussing Ubuntu real is off-topic here.

KristleBawl wrote:[color=blue]
> Someone expressed an opinion:[color=green]
>> Gordon wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> There's certainly some free speech there.
>>> Look at this thread:
>>> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/thread/0e9116fb-91d0-4097-880d-a59de65a17cb[/url]
>>>
>>> Scroll down to the posts by Red AKA Microsoft hater.[/color]
>>
>> Yeah, but he wants to like MS. Try mentioning Ubuntu there and see how
>> long the post lasts.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> That's why you get called a troll, instead of an advocate.[/color]

I don't pretend to be either.
[color=blue]
> The name of
> the group is m.p.WINDOWS.VISTA.general, not m.p.general, so that itself
> means that all topics should be about Vista, not Mac or *nix. You
> stretch the line by comparing Vista with another OS.[/color]

Not stretching a thing when you consider customer dissatisfaction with
Vista. You don't see me posting about Ubuntu on XP.GENERAL.
[color=blue]
>
> Several Mozilla posters mistakenly believe Firefox and Thunderbird,
> which have Win/Mac/*nix versions, needs separate newsgroups for each
> individual OS. Those groups are program-specific and these are all
> Windows OS groups.
>
> Contrary to your belief, discussing Ubuntu real is off-topic here.[/color]

I already know your opinion as you have stated it many times. We
disagree. Can you agree to disagree and move on or what?

Alias

KristleBawl wrote:[color=blue]
>
> That's why you get called a troll, instead of an advocate.[/color]

That's because he IS a troll. His idea of free speech is being able to
spam about his lame OS on a newsgroup that doesn't give a rats ass about
an OS made for computer hobbyists. In fact, idiots like him are the
reason MS probably didn't launch Win7 newsgroups and will probably do
away with the NNTP groups eventually.

milt wrote:
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> KristleBawl wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> That's why you get called a troll, instead of an advocate.[/color]
>
> That's because he IS a troll. His idea of free speech is being able to
> spam about his lame OS on a newsgroup that doesn't give a rats ass about
> an OS made for computer hobbyists. In fact, idiots like him are the
> reason MS probably didn't launch Win7 newsgroups and will probably do
> away with the NNTP groups eventually.[/color]

So you are saying a giant corporation like Microsoft was influenced by a
single troll?

Pretty lame.

Hope they don't shut down the corporate offices when a stray cat is spotted.

"milt" <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
news:#SK1ZnaWKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> KristleBawl wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> That's why you get called a troll, instead of an advocate.[/color]
>
> That's because he IS a troll. His idea of free speech is being able to
> spam about his lame OS on a newsgroup that doesn't give a rats ass about
> an OS made for computer hobbyists.[/color]

So this "OS that's made for hobbyists" doesn't run over half the servers
that run the internet and host websites and run all the supercomputers on
the planet then? Some "hobbyist" OS!

Someone expressed an opinion:[color=blue]
> KristleBawl wrote:[color=green]
>> That's why you get called a troll, instead of an advocate.[/color]
>
> I don't pretend to be either.
>[color=green]
>> The name of the group is m.p.WINDOWS.VISTA.general, not m.p.general,
>> so that itself means that all topics should be about Vista, not Mac or
>> *nix. You stretch the line by comparing Vista with another OS.[/color]
>
> Not stretching a thing when you consider customer dissatisfaction with
> Vista. You don't see me posting about Ubuntu on XP.GENERAL.
>[color=green]
>>
>> Several Mozilla posters mistakenly believe Firefox and Thunderbird,
>> which have Win/Mac/*nix versions, needs separate newsgroups for each
>> individual OS. Those groups are program-specific and these are all
>> Windows OS groups.
>>
>> Contrary to your belief, discussing Ubuntu real is off-topic here.[/color]
>
> I already know your opinion as you have stated it many times. We
> disagree. Can you agree to disagree and move on or what?
>
> Alias[/color]

I agree; we disagree on some things. ;-)

Customer dissatisfaction? No one knows the percentage, but I believe
that fewer people that upgraded to Vista complain compared to those that
hated ME, and there are still a fair number of ME users that are
satisfied and see no reason to change. That's how I, and many others,
feel about Vista. Squeaky wheels get the oil, and vocal complainers get
replies.

I looked at a few Linux distros, including Ubuntu, and *my* opinion is
that I prefer Vista. I read up on Windows 7, too, but I see no
compelling reason to upgrade again so soon. I used Win98SE OEM for
almost nine years without ever having to reinstall or restore, except
when I replaced the hard drive. I expect to keep Vista until the next
Windows version after Vista is no longer supported, too.

KristleBawl wrote:[color=blue]
> Someone expressed an opinion:[color=green]
>> KristleBawl wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> That's why you get called a troll, instead of an advocate.[/color]
>>
>> I don't pretend to be either.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> The name of the group is m.p.WINDOWS.VISTA.general, not m.p.general,
>>> so that itself means that all topics should be about Vista, not Mac
>>> or *nix. You stretch the line by comparing Vista with another OS.[/color]
>>
>> Not stretching a thing when you consider customer dissatisfaction with
>> Vista. You don't see me posting about Ubuntu on XP.GENERAL.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Several Mozilla posters mistakenly believe Firefox and Thunderbird,
>>> which have Win/Mac/*nix versions, needs separate newsgroups for each
>>> individual OS. Those groups are program-specific and these are all
>>> Windows OS groups.
>>>
>>> Contrary to your belief, discussing Ubuntu real is off-topic here.[/color]
>>
>> I already know your opinion as you have stated it many times. We
>> disagree. Can you agree to disagree and move on or what?
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> I agree; we disagree on some things. ;-)
>
> Customer dissatisfaction? No one knows the percentage, but I believe
> that fewer people that upgraded to Vista complain compared to those that
> hated ME, and there are still a fair number of ME users that are
> satisfied and see no reason to change.[/color]

I liked Win Me except for the constant need to reboot.
[color=blue]
> That's how I, and many others,
> feel about Vista. Squeaky wheels get the oil, and vocal complainers get
> replies.
>
> I looked at a few Linux distros, including Ubuntu, and *my* opinion is
> that I prefer Vista. I read up on Windows 7, too, but I see no
> compelling reason to upgrade again so soon. I used Win98SE OEM for
> almost nine years without ever having to reinstall or restore, except
> when I replaced the hard drive. I expect to keep Vista until the next
> Windows version after Vista is no longer supported, too.[/color]

We agree on more than you think.

Alias