Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?

I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
a different desktop and start menu.

So, is this user correct?

One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
printer.




Greg

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg wrote:
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> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
> a different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?
>
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
> printer.
>
>
>
>
> Greg[/color]

Feel free to believe it.

Many people have sarcastically said that 7 is Vista SP3, but it's either a
joke or a criticism, depending on the person speaking.

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

Greg wrote:[color=blue]
> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
> a different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?
>
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
> printer.
>[/color]

No, that user is not correct. Windows 7 is the latest version of
Windows. Vista was the name of the last version of Windows, the version
before that was called XP. There has been many changes between the last
version of Windows and this version. Too many to list here.

This so-called "logic" makes no sense. Using that logic you might as
well call the last version of Vista "Windows XP SP 5" making Windows 7
"Windows XP SP6".

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg wrote:
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> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with a
> different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?
>
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers for
> 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new printer.
>
>
>
>
> Greg[/color]

Shouldn't be any problem. Bill and frankie have assured me that win7 has
no problems.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:
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> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?[/color]


No.

[color=blue]
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
> a different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?[/color]


Not even close.

[color=blue]
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
> printer.[/color]


Any time you go to a newer version of Windows, there is always the
possibility that there are no drivers for using older hardware with
it.

This, by the way, is not a Windows 7, or a Microsoft issue. Each
hardware manufacturer decides for itself whether it makes economic
sense to develop new drivers for an older piece of hardware that is no
longer selling much.

What printer do you have, by the way?

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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milt wrote:[color=blue]
> Greg wrote:[color=green]
>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>>
>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>
>> So, is this user correct?
>>
>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>> printer.
>>[/color]
>
> No, that user is not correct. Windows 7 is the latest version of
> Windows. Vista was the name of the last version of Windows, the version
> before that was called XP. There has been many changes between the last
> version of Windows and this version. Too many to list here.
>
> This so-called "logic" makes no sense. Using that logic you might as
> well call the last version of Vista "Windows XP SP 5" making Windows 7
> "Windows XP SP6".[/color]

It's NT7 -- service packs don't count ;-) -- and because they changed
the eye candy and fixed the Vista problems, they think they can to
charge for NT7. After the Vista fiasco, they *need* to charge for it and
if it flops, MS will have to live off XBox.

Alias

Its been observed that over 80,000 Linux users have abandoned Ubuntu
today in favor of Windows 7. Sorry!


Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> milt wrote:[color=green]
>> Greg wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>>>
>>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>>
>>> So, is this user correct?
>>>
>>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>>> printer.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> No, that user is not correct. Windows 7 is the latest version of
>> Windows. Vista was the name of the last version of Windows, the
>> version before that was called XP. There has been many changes between
>> the last version of Windows and this version. Too many to list here.
>>
>> This so-called "logic" makes no sense. Using that logic you might as
>> well call the last version of Vista "Windows XP SP 5" making Windows 7
>> "Windows XP SP6".[/color]
>
> It's NT7 -- service packs don't count ;-) -- and because they changed
> the eye candy and fixed the Vista problems, they think they can to
> charge for NT7. After the Vista fiasco, they *need* to charge for it and
> if it flops, MS will have to live off XBox.
>
> Alias[/color]

David wrote:[color=blue]
> Its been observed that over 80,000 Linux users have abandoned Ubuntu
> today in favor of Windows 7. Sorry![/color]

Observed by whom?

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
> Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> milt wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Greg wrote:
>>>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>>>>
>>>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>>>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>>>
>>>> So, is this user correct?
>>>>
>>>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>>>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>>>> printer.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, that user is not correct. Windows 7 is the latest version of
>>> Windows. Vista was the name of the last version of Windows, the
>>> version before that was called XP. There has been many changes
>>> between the last version of Windows and this version. Too many to
>>> list here.
>>>
>>> This so-called "logic" makes no sense. Using that logic you might as
>>> well call the last version of Vista "Windows XP SP 5" making Windows
>>> 7 "Windows XP SP6".[/color]
>>
>> It's NT7 -- service packs don't count ;-) -- and because they changed
>> the eye candy and fixed the Vista problems, they think they can to
>> charge for NT7. After the Vista fiasco, they *need* to charge for it
>> and if it flops, MS will have to live off XBox.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbr06k$483$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> milt wrote:[color=green]
>> Greg wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?[/color][/color]
>
> It's NT7 -- service packs don't count ;-) -- and because they changed the
> eye candy and fixed the Vista problems, they think they can to charge for
> NT7. After the Vista fiasco, they *need* to charge for it and if it flops,
> MS will have to live off XBox.
>
> Alias[/color]

It's Windows 7 because Microsoft says so. You can call it what you want.
At least Windows 7 is a winner and Ubuntu is a LOSER.

Of course they can charge for Windows 7. Millions have already purchased
it. With Ubuntu, maybe 500 new users over the next 3 years.

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbr172$apq$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> David wrote:[color=green]
>> Its been observed that over 80,000 Linux users have abandoned Ubuntu
>> today in favor of Windows 7. Sorry![/color]
>
> Observed by whom?
>[/color]
By everyone but YOU. Ubuntu is trash that nobody wants or needs. People
reject Ubuntu 99% of the time because Ubuntu does not run the popular
software programs out there.

Ubuntu is worth what you pay for it: NOTHING

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7kcdg1F38utp7U22@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>>
>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with a
>> different desktop and start menu.
>>
>> So, is this user correct?
>>
>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers for
>> 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new printer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg[/color]
>
> Shouldn't be any problem. Bill and frankie have assured me that win7 has
> no problems.[/color]

I've been using Windows 7 RTM since August 6th and so far no problems. You
just wish there were problems. Go back to playing with GIMP.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:10:33 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
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>On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?[/color]
>
>
>No.
>
>[color=green]
>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>
>> So, is this user correct?[/color]
>
>
>Not even close.
>
>[color=green]
>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>> printer.[/color]
>
>
>Any time you go to a newer version of Windows, there is always the
>possibility that there are no drivers for using older hardware with
>it.
>
>This, by the way, is not a Windows 7, or a Microsoft issue. Each
>hardware manufacturer decides for itself whether it makes economic
>sense to develop new drivers for an older piece of hardware that is no
>longer selling much.
>
>What printer do you have, by the way?[/color]


I didn't say that right. I know 32 bit software will work on a 64
bit machine.

Here is my hardware.

I have an Emachine CRT VGA monitor. (Best for my eyes)

I have Hp deskjet 3740 printer

I have an agree system pci dial-up modem. (Computer Associates
defunct company) It does work in xp.

I might be better to get a Vista. I here people claim it is slow,
how slow? I am used to slow systems. I always had a slow system.

If Wal-mart, has a good deal on Cyber Friday, I might get Windows 7
and usb modem, and a printer .


Greg

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:02:32 -0700, Spanky de Monkey wrote:
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> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7kcdg1F38utp7U22@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>>>
>>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>>
>>> So, is this user correct?
>>>
>>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>>> printer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg[/color]
>>
>> Shouldn't be any problem. Bill and frankie have assured me that win7
>> has no problems.[/color]
>
> I've been using Windows 7 RTM since August 6th and so far no problems.
> You just wish there were problems. Go back to playing with GIMP.[/color]

Well geez, that's what I told the OP. Bill and frankie have assured me
that win7 has no problems, so what's he worried about?

"Greg" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:7kcc0rF38h4g1U1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
> a different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?
>
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
> printer.
>
>
>
>
> Greg
>[/color]
Why do you think that you require 'new' 32 bit drivers when installing
Windows 7? As far as I know the 32 bit drivers used for WinXP will work
with Windows 7. Further, I have installed Windows 7 x64 and found that it
included drivers for both my printers (HP 2280 and HP6980).[color=blue]
>[/color]

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>
> "Greg" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:7kcc0rF38h4g1U1@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>>
>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>
>> So, is this user correct?
>>
>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>> printer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>[/color]
> Why do you think that you require 'new' 32 bit drivers when installing
> Windows 7? As far as I know the 32 bit drivers used for WinXP will work
> with Windows 7. Further, I have installed Windows 7 x64 and found that it
> included drivers for both my printers (HP 2280 and HP6980).[color=green]
>>[/color]
>
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> signature database 4535 (20091023) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
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>[/color]



Vista used a new driver model as compared to Windows XP. That was why there
was so much discontent when Vista was introduced. The manufacturers were
very slow in updating their drivers for Vista.

Windows 7 uses the same driver model as Vista. If your hardware can not be
made to run under Vista you will likely have the same problem under Windows
7.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience & Security