"Greg" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:7kcc0rF38h4g1U1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
> a different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?
>
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
> printer.
>[/color]

I think you'll find that most Vista drivers will work in Win 7.....the Vista
drivers for my printer certainly do....

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:
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>Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?[/color]

No, it's SP3, not 2.

Greg wrote:[color=blue]
> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
> a different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?
>
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
> printer.[/color]

More or less correct. Win 7 is Vista regurgitated. SP3 for Vista.

But the Vista name has brand damage, and businesses are balking openly.
If they repackage it as Win 7 with some fixes then they can try to
re-push it to businesses. It still will not work because your average
business desktop systems are already overloaded with AV and adding a
heavy OS makes then unproductive. So they still have to buy new
machines which is one of Vista's big limitations.

Why buy a business Win 7/Vista PC for $1500++ in HW and another $1000 in
SW when XP on the old system does just fine?

So unless Win 7 has some big performance/reliability improvements, it
soon will just replace Vista as a dog.

My 2 cents,

This question has been asked many times, and my personal view is that it is
in a sense that every new product within the same product line is a
revision/improvement of its predecessor. So it can be called as a service
pack as well.

Other people are also concern about the kernel version number, but in real
life, too many products share the same core components (such as ingredients,
formulas, and engines, etc.), and yet, they are still different products
because, for example, an engine is just one part of an automobile from both
performance and user experience's perspective.

So, what's really important is how do you feel about the product and if it
can be useful to you. Don't worry too much about the version number, which
by itself, is meaningless.

Good luck.


"Greg" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:7kcc0rF38h4g1U1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
> a different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?
>
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
> printer.
>
>
>
>
> Greg[/color]

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7kck1gF38utp7U24@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:02:32 -0700, Spanky de Monkey wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7kcdg1F38utp7U22@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>>>>
>>>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>>>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>>>
>>>> So, is this user correct?
>>>>
>>>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>>>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>>>> printer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>
>>> Shouldn't be any problem. Bill and frankie have assured me that win7
>>> has no problems.[/color]
>>
>> I've been using Windows 7 RTM since August 6th and so far no problems.
>> You just wish there were problems. Go back to playing with GIMP.[/color]
>
> Well geez, that's what I told the OP. Bill and frankie have assured me
> that win7 has no problems, so what's he worried about?[/color]

What problems are you looking for?

Greg wrote:[color=blue]
> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>
> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
> a different desktop and start menu.
>
> So, is this user correct?
>
> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
> printer.
>
>
>
>
> Greg[/color]

Windows 7 is Vista R2 (to match the corresponding server designation)

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:40:25 +0100, "Edward W. Thompson"
<thomeduk1@btinternet.com> wrote:
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>
>
>"Greg" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message
>news:7kcc0rF38h4g1U1@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?
>>
>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>
>> So, is this user correct?
>>
>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>> printer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>[/color]
>Why do you think that you require 'new' 32 bit drivers when installing
>Windows 7? As far as I know the 32 bit drivers used for WinXP will work
>with Windows 7. Further, I have installed Windows 7 x64 and found that it
>included drivers for both my printers (HP 2280 and HP6980).[color=green]
>>[/color]
>
>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4535 (20091023) __________
>
>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
>[url]http://www.eset.com[/url]
>
>[/color]

People need to read better.

I am not talking about 32 bit drivers for 32 bit system. Geeze. I
do know 32 bit drivers wont normally work on a 64 bit machine without
a hack.

I have old hardware that may not have 64 bit drivers. Most
preinstalled system W7 are 64 bit not 32 bit.

Here is my list my hardware. That requires drivers. I am using at
32 bit xp machine know,.


I have an Emachine CRT VGA monitor. (Best for my eyes).

I have Hp deskjet 3740 printer

I have an agree system pci dial-up modem. (Computer Associates
defunct company) It does work in xp.


Greg

Greg ..please see this article from HP on your printer.. It should explain
and also help with your problem I believe

[url]http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01874792&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=401496&lang=en[/url]

I am sure after reading this you will get it working, maybe not to its
fullest extent but never the less being able to print.. Hope this helps a
little.

"Greg" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:7kcjduF38utsqU1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:10:33 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:36:05 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Is windows 7 just Vista with sp2 installed?[/color]
>>
>>
>>No.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I read a comment on zdnet, that said Windows 7 is just Vista sp2 with
>>> a different desktop and start menu.
>>>
>>> So, is this user correct?[/color]
>>
>>
>>Not even close.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> One thing I am not do happy about with windows 7, is finding drivers
>>> for 32 bit hardware. I really don't want to have to buy a new
>>> printer.[/color]
>>
>>
>>Any time you go to a newer version of Windows, there is always the
>>possibility that there are no drivers for using older hardware with
>>it.
>>
>>This, by the way, is not a Windows 7, or a Microsoft issue. Each
>>hardware manufacturer decides for itself whether it makes economic
>>sense to develop new drivers for an older piece of hardware that is no
>>longer selling much.
>>
>>What printer do you have, by the way?[/color]
>
>
> I didn't say that right. I know 32 bit software will work on a 64
> bit machine.
>
> Here is my hardware.
>
> I have an Emachine CRT VGA monitor. (Best for my eyes)
>
> I have Hp deskjet 3740 printer
>
> I have an agree system pci dial-up modem. (Computer Associates
> defunct company) It does work in xp.
>
> I might be better to get a Vista. I here people claim it is slow,
> how slow? I am used to slow systems. I always had a slow system.
>
> If Wal-mart, has a good deal on Cyber Friday, I might get Windows 7
> and usb modem, and a printer .
>
>
> Greg[/color]

Greg wrote:
[color=blue]
> I didn't say that right. I know 32 bit software will work on a 64
> bit machine.
>
> Here is my hardware.
>
> I have an Emachine CRT VGA monitor. (Best for my eyes)
>
> I have Hp deskjet 3740 printer
>
> I have an agree system pci dial-up modem. (Computer Associates
> defunct company) It does work in xp.
>
> I might be better to get a Vista. I here people claim it is slow,
> how slow? I am used to slow systems. I always had a slow system.
>
> If Wal-mart, has a good deal on Cyber Friday, I might get Windows 7
> and usb modem, and a printer .
>
>
> Greg[/color]

if you want to be sure that everything you have is supported by Win 7, download
and run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor..

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/upgrade-advisor.aspx[/url]

~k

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:21:30 -0400, Keith H <keherma.@.epix.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Greg wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I didn't say that right. I know 32 bit software will work on a 64
>> bit machine.
>>
>> Here is my hardware.
>>
>> I have an Emachine CRT VGA monitor. (Best for my eyes)
>>
>> I have Hp deskjet 3740 printer
>>
>> I have an agree system pci dial-up modem. (Computer Associates
>> defunct company) It does work in xp.
>>
>> I might be better to get a Vista. I here people claim it is slow,
>> how slow? I am used to slow systems. I always had a slow system.
>>
>> If Wal-mart, has a good deal on Cyber Friday, I might get Windows 7
>> and usb modem, and a printer .
>>
>>
>> Greg[/color]
>
>if you want to be sure that everything you have is supported by Win 7, download
>and run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor..
>
>[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/upgrade-advisor.aspx[/url]
>
>~k[/color]

Ugh, DUH, I already know that. People need to read post better.

I don't have a W7 computer. Most preinstalled systems you buy at the
store are W7 64 bit not W7 32 bit.

I would like to keep my printer, my modem, and my network card
working in windows 7.

Again, here is the hardware. That is what I want to use with
windows 7.

I have an Emachine CRT VGA monitor. (Best for my eyes).

I have Hp deskjet 3740 printer

I have an agree system pci dial-up modem. (Computer Associates
defunct company) It does work in xp.

Compaq NC3120 Fast ETHERNET NIC pci card.

Greg