"STAN STARINSKI" <Chyna@stealsUSJobsPatentsSoftwareMusicVideo> wrote in
message news:OFtfd1#UKHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> OK it's a matter of terminology.[/color]

No it's a matter of fact. You could run all your apps and do all your work
in Windows 3.x without using the GUI.....the GUI in this case is a Desktop,
NOT an OS.

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:50:46 +0100, "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com>
wrote:
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>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:ks02e5h7qa847uigmqnrr7oo8o5je1ucbm@4ax.com...[color=green]
> > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:49:14 -0400, "Charles Lavin" <x@x.x> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> That makes sense ... since Windows 98 and earlier are technically not
> >> operating systems.[/color]
> >
> >
> > A statement many people make, but one with which I thoroughly
> > disagree.
> >
> > They *are* operating systems. Read here, for example:
> > [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems#Microsoft[/url][/color]
>
> I disagree both with Wikipedia and your good self.
> How can a GUI that exists on TOP OF, or as a front end of, the actual OS be
> called an "OS"?
> The Windows 3.x and 9.x were a GUI ON TOP OF the DOS operating system. It
> was DOS that actually ran the machine, not the Windows front end....[/color]



Feel free to believe whatever you want, but operating systems have
often run on top of other operating systems for many years. In the
mainframe world, for example, MVS is universally considered to be an
operating system, but it can, and sometimes does, run on top of VM.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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Right, Windows 7's NT kernel is version 6.1, not 7.0.

As far as I can remember though, it was supposed to be a 7.0 kernel but
things didn't work out that way. The beta got called "Windows 7" and when
they (the Microsoft people) went to decide on a 'retail' name for it they
found that everyone had already warmed to calling it Windows 7. So in an
untraditional move, the beta codename is the same as the RTM name: Windows
7.

Saucy


"Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
news:Oy34a79UKHA.4484@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Jim" <j.n@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ory#PD3UKHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> It is the seventh version of Windows NT.
>> Windows 1, 2, 3, 95, 98, and ME are not based on Windows NT. Hence,
>> whatever their internal name may be, they don't count.
>>
>> NT 1, 2, 3, and 4 were never available to the general public for use on a
>> PC.
>> Windows NT5 was called Windows 2000
>> Windows NT5.1 was called Windows XP
>> Windows NT6 is called Windows Vista
>> Windows NT7 is called Windows 7.[/color]
>
> Err no. Winver in my 7 Home Premium tells me it's build 6.1.......[/color]

Jim wrote:[color=blue]
> There is nothing quite like being consistently inconsistent.
>
>
> Jim
> "Gordon"<gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
> news:uhKQai%23UKHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "Rick Rogers"<rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eMTaIr8UKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Wrong family.
>>>
>>> WinNT (vers. 1-3)
>>> WinNT4/Win2K (vers.4)
>>> WinXP (ver.5)
>>> WinVista (ver. 6)[/color]
>>
>> And according to my Winver, I now have Build 6.1.......Windows 7 HP.....[/color]
>
>
>[/color]
6+1=7?

<bobfnospam@duxsysnospam.com> wrote in message
news:#mT3Pj$UKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Jim wrote:[color=green]
>> There is nothing quite like being consistently inconsistent.
>>
>>
>> Jim
>> "Gordon"<gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
>> news:uhKQai%23UKHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Rick Rogers"<rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:eMTaIr8UKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Wrong family.
>>>>
>>>> WinNT (vers. 1-3)
>>>> WinNT4/Win2K (vers.4)
>>>> WinXP (ver.5)
>>>> WinVista (ver. 6)
>>>
>>> And according to my Winver, I now have Build 6.1.......Windows 7 HP.....[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color]
> 6+1=7?[/color]


Is that how Microsoft decided? They spent all those millions on researching
the name when you have it in one sentence? Amazing.

OK.

P.S. I still indulge in command-driven OS under WinXP/Vista/7, in Vista it's
PowerShell or regular Shell, it's still there, still works, except for
system functions mostly, application won't be running outside of windows...
yes, but I am tired.
It's time to eat.

yes you corrected us properly

Gillette is worse.
They spent $Millions to realize 3 blades is better than 2 blades for
shaving.

I wanna be in the group of PhD Researchers to be funded to prove 4 blades
are even better than 3 blades.
Who know maybe 5 blades can help?

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:53:24 -0500, STAN STARINSKI wrote:
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> Either you trying to be funny or pretending to know what you DON'T.
>
> A Hexadecimal for 10 is letter "A":
> Please know the subject before you post assumptions.[/color]

Go to the 7-11 and buy a sense of humour.

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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:12:47 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
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> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:53:24 -0500, STAN STARINSKI wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Either you trying to be funny or pretending to know what you DON'T.
>>
>> A Hexadecimal for 10 is letter "A":
>> Please know the subject before you post assumptions.[/color]
>
> Go to the 7-11 and buy a sense of humour.[/color]

Thinking about it, I realize I should have said go to the 0x7-0xB :-)

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