On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:45:19 -0400, Saucy wrote:
[color=blue]
> Windows 7 is the exception that proves the rule. I won't say there will
> not be any issues with it - with just about all computing there are
> issues that pop up from time to time - but the beta and then RC stages
> showed Windows 7 to be an exceptionally ironed out package and very
> ready for prime time.[/color]

ok - sure

[color=blue]
>
> The retail bits (RTM version which is the same as what is on the store
> shelves today) have been out for a number of weeks now, and the reports
> are that it is a very stable release.
>
> lol And anecdotally, we've been running it here with great success.
>
> Saucy
>
>
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7kbivjF38utp7U6@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>>
>>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?[/color]
>>
>> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
>> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS
>> problems.[/color][/color]

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:33:30 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
[color=blue]
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7kbivjF38utp7U6@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>>
>>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?[/color]
>>
>> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
>> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS
>> problems.[/color]
>
> I've been running development applications on Windows 7 since August.
> No problems. You are just a Linux zealot. Stay away from Windows.
> Open Sores is for you.[/color]

You keep telling me about Open Sores - and I search and can't find it -
could you provide a link?

Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
>
> BestBuy certainly does. lol Read the thread please before putting your
> foot in your mouth. I've mentioned both US and Canadian pricing. BestBuy
> ships both to the US and Canada. There's a BestBuy store not far from me
> near my neighbourhood. And a Staples. And a Futureshop.
>
> [BestBuy Canadian webpages in English]
> [url]http://www.bestbuy.ca/home.asp[/url]
>
> Saucy[/color]

I stand corrected but if I lived in either country I would not patronize
any of those stores.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbq7u7$ei6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Saucy wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> BestBuy for example:
>>>
>>> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
>>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>>> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less
>>> the 50 bucks a copy.
>>>
>>> Saucy[/color]
>>
>> They don't ship to Canada.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9CAC7F5735ECBthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in
>>>> news:uQo9BKzUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>>>>
>>>>> P.S. I was talking Canadian dollars.
>>>>>
>>>>> In US dollars, it would be less than 50 bucks per copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>> And where is this again ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u49i16xUKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can
>>>>>> run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saucy
>>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color][/color]

Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
> Funny: Even at 0 cents they still can't give it away, well except to the
> odd estranged person.[/color]

Actually, it costs the price of a CD and over 10 million are using it.
Course, you prefer lies rather than the truth, don't you?
[color=blue]
>
> Fact: Ubuntu is worthless whereas Windows can command a price.
>
> Saucy[/color]

Fact: most people don't know about Ubuntu and most people think that
Windows comes with the HP, Dell, etc. computer and don't buy a retail or
generic OEM copy.

I was in a cyber cafe the other day and there was a young lady using a
netbook with Ubuntu on it. She thought it was Windows 7.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uq2KEh0UKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hbq7u7$ei6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>> BestBuy for example:
>>>>
>>>> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
>>>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>>>> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less
>>>> the 50 bucks a copy.
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>> They don't ship to Canada.
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>> I just thought, that's 50 bucks more than Ubuntu, which is free, and
>> still they have trouble shifting it.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>[/color]

ray wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:33:30 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:[/color]
<snip>[color=blue]
>
> You keep telling me about Open Sores - and I search and can't find it -
> could you provide a link?[/color]

It's possible this is a terminal illness that our beloved Bill is
suffering from, first it attacked his body, but now it appears to be
taking his mind as well. Poor Bill!

(Sorry Bill, couldn't resist ;)

--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
[url]http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101[/url]

Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
> P.S.
>
> BestBuy does ship to Canada - they also have stores in Canada. I don't
> see the Family Pack listed at BestBuy yet - it probably will be soon
> enough. But if one must have the Windows 7 Family Pack today from a
> Canadian big box store then there's Staples which is selling it:
>
> $199.95 Cdn. for the Windows 7 Family Pack
>
> Saucy[/color]

The link you posted belows says the don't ship outside the USA. Had you
posted a Canadian link ....

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbq7u7$ei6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Saucy wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> BestBuy for example:
>>>
>>> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
>>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>>> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less
>>> the 50 bucks a copy.
>>>
>>> Saucy[/color]
>>
>> They don't ship to Canada.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9CAC7F5735ECBthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in
>>>> news:uQo9BKzUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>>>>
>>>>> P.S. I was talking Canadian dollars.
>>>>>
>>>>> In US dollars, it would be less than 50 bucks per copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>> And where is this again ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u49i16xUKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can
>>>>>> run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saucy
>>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color][/color]

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbqam2$92l$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Saucy wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> BestBuy certainly does. lol Read the thread please before putting your
>> foot in your mouth. I've mentioned both US and Canadian pricing. BestBuy
>> ships both to the US and Canada. There's a BestBuy store not far from me
>> near my neighbourhood. And a Staples. And a Futureshop.
>>
>> [BestBuy Canadian webpages in English]
>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.ca/home.asp[/url]
>>
>> Saucy[/color]
>
> I stand corrected but if I lived in either country I would not patronize
> any of those stores.
>
> Alias[/color]

You mean you can't afford to patronize any of those stores. Stick with
Ubuntu. That is your style. SAP.

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7kboduF38utp7U12@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:33:30 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7kbivjF38utp7U6@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saucy
>>>>>
>>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>>>
>>>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?
>>>
>>> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
>>> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS
>>> problems.[/color]
>>
>> I've been running development applications on Windows 7 since August.
>> No problems. You are just a Linux zealot. Stay away from Windows.
>> Open Sores is for you.[/color]
>
> You keep telling me about Open Sores - and I search and can't find it -
> could you provide a link?[/color]

Here ya go:

[url]http://sourceforge.net/[/url]

Now you can download all the Open Sores software packages you can't use.

ray wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:33:30 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7kbivjF38utp7U6@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saucy
>>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?
>>> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
>>> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS
>>> problems.[/color]
>> I've been running development applications on Windows 7 since August.
>> No problems. You are just a Linux zealot. Stay away from Windows.
>> Open Sores is for you.[/color]
>
> You keep telling me about Open Sores - and I search and can't find it -
> could you provide a link?[/color]

Bill got his open sores from his wife who got them from their neighbor's
13 y.o. son.

Alias

That's OK, I don't shop at Wal*Mart. 'Never have. I have my reasons.

Anyway, BestBuy.ca has the Family Pack up for $199.99 now:

[Windows 7 Family Pack at BestBuy Canadian webpages]
[url]http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10130896&catid=21236[/url]

If you can't get it there, then there's Staples which is selling it for
$199.95 Cdn. at its retail outlets.

Saucy


"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbqam2$92l$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> if I lived in either country I would not patronize any of those stores.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

So much for the caliber of the Ubuntu user: clueless.

Saucy


"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbqas5$92l$2@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
>
>
> I was in a cyber cafe the other day and there was a young lady using a
> netbook with Ubuntu on it. She thought it was Windows 7.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

ray wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:17:40 -0500, Rich wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7kbj1tF38utp7U7@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:42:38 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7kbg68F38utp7U4@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saucy
>>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>>> Maybe in your house. I installed Windows 7 in about 20 minutes.
>>>> Another hour for my applications and up and running. If it would take
>>>> you 6 months or more, I suggest staying with that crappy Ubuntu that
>>>> runs those INFERIOR Open Sores software packages that are junk.
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 is way over your head.
>>> Quite frankly, I don't expect to ever see it running in my house - I'm
>>> brighter than that and I care more for my money. Linux is perfectly
>>> adequate.[/color]
>> That's why your in a Windows News Group then right?[/color]
>
> Yeah - I need a little comic relief from time to time - this certainly
> provides it.[/color]

Translation: ray is a jealous lying POS linturd troll.
Any questions?

ray wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:33:30 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7kbivjF38utp7U6@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saucy
>>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?
>>> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
>>> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS
>>> problems.[/color]
>> I've been running development applications on Windows 7 since August.
>> No problems. You are just a Linux zealot. Stay away from Windows.
>> Open Sores is for you.[/color]
>
> You keep telling me about Open Sores - and I search and can't find it -
> could you provide a link?[/color]

Look on your desktop...it's right in front of you!

Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
> So much for the caliber of the Ubuntu user: clueless.
>
> Saucy[/color]

She didn't know she was using Ubuntu on her new Dell netbook and didn't
care because it did all the things she wanted to do with it. She told me
she didn't buy it for the OS but because of the low price. You do know
that a lot of people are being affected by the economic crisis or do you
live under a rock?

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbqas5$92l$2@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> I was in a cyber cafe the other day and there was a young lady using a
>> netbook with Ubuntu on it. She thought it was Windows 7.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:16:54 -0700, Spanky de Monkey, ESQ PhD BFD wrote:
[color=blue]
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7kboasF38utp7U10@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:39:57 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals
>>>>>>> online, or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big
>>>>>>> box stores and the computer stores which enable you to acquire
>>>>>>> Windows 7 for only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty
>>>>>>> inexpensive - especially for people who use their software day in
>>>>>>> and day out all year).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saucy
>>>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>>>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?
>>>>
>>>> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
>>>> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS
>>>> problems.
>>>
>>> So no progress at all since the early 80's huh?[/color]
>>
>> Not much that I've seen in terms of reliability of initial releases -
>> it still takes several months to iron things out - vista, for example.
>>
>>[/color]
> You really have no clue. I have been using Windows 7 for a few months
> now (RTM version) and it's solid. What is there to iron out?[/color]

I'm sure that's true. I know other folks who have used pre-release
versions of other OSs - they usually manage to screw something up getting
it out the door.
[color=blue]
>
> I know when a new version of that INFERIOR Ubuntu comes out, it takes
> months to iron out all the bugs. Then they drop a newer version of that
> INFERIOR OS out and you have to start all over again. Maybe you are
> just use to that.[/color]

And then there's vista.