ray wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>[color=green]
>> ray wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>
>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online, or
>>>> if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores and
>>>> the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for only
>>>> about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially for
>>>> people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can run
>>>> Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable![/color]
>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?[/color]
>
> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS problems.[/color]

So no progress at all since the early 80's huh?

Windows 7 is the exception that proves the rule. I won't say there will not
be any issues with it - with just about all computing there are issues that
pop up from time to time - but the beta and then RC stages showed Windows 7
to be an exceptionally ironed out package and very ready for prime time.

The retail bits (RTM version which is the same as what is on the store
shelves today) have been out for a number of weeks now, and the reports are
that it is a very stable release.

lol And anecdotally, we've been running it here with great success.

Saucy


"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7kbivjF38utp7U6@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>[color=green]
>> ray wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>
>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online, or
>>>> if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores and
>>>> the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for only
>>>> about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially for
>>>> people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can run
>>>> Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable![/color]
>>
>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?[/color]
>
> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS problems.[/color]

On 22 Oct 2009 17:27:15 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
>upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS problems.[/color]

Unless you realize it's just SP3 for Vista... in which case, they
might have it right at this point.

Me, I'll wait six months anyway.

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7kbj1tF38utp7U7@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:42:38 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7kbg68F38utp7U4@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>
>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online, or
>>>> if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores and
>>>> the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for only
>>>> about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially for
>>>> people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can run
>>>> Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable![/color]
>>
>> Maybe in your house. I installed Windows 7 in about 20 minutes.
>> Another hour for my applications and up and running. If it would take
>> you 6 months or more, I suggest staying with that crappy Ubuntu that
>> runs those INFERIOR Open Sores software packages that are junk.
>>
>> Windows 7 is way over your head.[/color]
>
> Quite frankly, I don't expect to ever see it running in my house - I'm
> brighter than that and I care more for my money. Linux is perfectly
> adequate.[/color]

That's why your in a Windows News Group then right?

Saucy wrote:[color=blue]
> BestBuy for example:
>
> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>
>
> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less the
> 50 bucks a copy.
>
> Saucy[/color]

They don't ship to Canada.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CAC7F5735ECBthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...[color=green]
>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in
>> news:uQo9BKzUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> P.S. I was talking Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>> In US dollars, it would be less than 50 bucks per copy.
>>>
>>> Saucy[/color]
>>
>> And where is this again ?
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:u49i16xUKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>
>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can
>>>> run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

BestBuy certainly does. lol Read the thread please before putting your foot
in your mouth. I've mentioned both US and Canadian pricing. BestBuy ships
both to the US and Canada. There's a BestBuy store not far from me near my
neighbourhood. And a Staples. And a Futureshop.

[BestBuy Canadian webpages in English]
[url]http://www.bestbuy.ca/home.asp[/url]

Saucy



"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbq7u7$ei6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Saucy wrote:[color=green]
>> BestBuy for example:
>>
>> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less the 50
>> bucks a copy.
>>
>> Saucy[/color]
>
> They don't ship to Canada.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>>
>>
>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CAC7F5735ECBthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...[color=darkred]
>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in
>>> news:uQo9BKzUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>>>
>>>> P.S. I was talking Canadian dollars.
>>>>
>>>> In US dollars, it would be less than 50 bucks per copy.
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>> And where is this again ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:u49i16xUKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can
>>>>> run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbq7u7$ei6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Saucy wrote:[color=green]
>> BestBuy for example:
>>
>> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less the 50
>> bucks a copy.
>>
>> Saucy[/color]
>
> They don't ship to Canada.
>
> Alias[/color]

I just thought, that's 50 bucks more than Ubuntu, which is free, and still
they have trouble shifting it.

Alias

P.S.

BestBuy does ship to Canada - they also have stores in Canada. I don't see
the Family Pack listed at BestBuy yet - it probably will be soon enough. But
if one must have the Windows 7 Family Pack today from a Canadian big box
store then there's Staples which is selling it:

$199.95 Cdn. for the Windows 7 Family Pack

Saucy



"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbq7u7$ei6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Saucy wrote:[color=green]
>> BestBuy for example:
>>
>> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less the 50
>> bucks a copy.
>>
>> Saucy[/color]
>
> They don't ship to Canada.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>>
>>
>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CAC7F5735ECBthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...[color=darkred]
>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in
>>> news:uQo9BKzUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>>>
>>>> P.S. I was talking Canadian dollars.
>>>>
>>>> In US dollars, it would be less than 50 bucks per copy.
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>> And where is this again ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:u49i16xUKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can
>>>>> run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

Funny: Even at 0 cents they still can't give it away, well except to the odd
estranged person.

Fact: Ubuntu is worthless whereas Windows can command a price.

Saucy



"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:uq2KEh0UKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbq7u7$ei6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Saucy wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> BestBuy for example:
>>>
>>> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
>>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>>> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less the
>>> 50 bucks a copy.
>>>
>>> Saucy[/color]
>>
>> They don't ship to Canada.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> I just thought, that's 50 bucks more than Ubuntu, which is free, and still
> they have trouble shifting it.
>
> Alias[/color]

The servers bungled my reply. This is a re-do.

BestBuy operates in Canada, both online and with a physical presence (i.e.
retail outlets).

I have mentioned both Canadian and American prices. Right now the Family
Pack can be had at Staples for 199.95 Cdn. for those who want to go out and
get it today in Canada.

Saucy


"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:uq2KEh0UKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbq7u7$ei6$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Saucy wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> BestBuy for example:
>>>
>>> [Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Family Pack - BestBuy website]
>>> [url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9493185&type=product&id=1218113928235[/url]
>>> Watch the URL wrap. With 3 copies in the pack, it comes in at less the
>>> 50 bucks a copy.
>>>
>>> Saucy[/color]
>>
>> They don't ship to Canada.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> I just thought, that's 50 bucks more than Ubuntu, which is free, and still
> they have trouble shifting it.
>
> Alias[/color]

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7kbj1tF38utp7U7@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:42:38 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7kbg68F38utp7U4@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>
>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online, or
>>>> if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores and
>>>> the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for only
>>>> about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially for
>>>> people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you already
>>>> have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a computer that
>>>> can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older computers can run
>>>> Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of RAM (cheap) and a
>>>> capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable![/color]
>>
>> Maybe in your house. I installed Windows 7 in about 20 minutes.
>> Another hour for my applications and up and running. If it would take
>> you 6 months or more, I suggest staying with that crappy Ubuntu that
>> runs those INFERIOR Open Sores software packages that are junk.
>>
>> Windows 7 is way over your head.[/color]
>
> Quite frankly, I don't expect to ever see it running in my house[/color]

I'm sure Microsoft will manage in that case lol!
[color=blue]
> - I'm
> brighter than that and I care more for my money. Linux is perfectly
> adequate.[/color]

Yeh! And I'm the Pope!

Alias

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:17:40 -0500, Rich wrote:
[color=blue]
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7kbj1tF38utp7U7@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:42:38 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7kbg68F38utp7U4@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>>
>>> Maybe in your house. I installed Windows 7 in about 20 minutes.
>>> Another hour for my applications and up and running. If it would take
>>> you 6 months or more, I suggest staying with that crappy Ubuntu that
>>> runs those INFERIOR Open Sores software packages that are junk.
>>>
>>> Windows 7 is way over your head.[/color]
>>
>> Quite frankly, I don't expect to ever see it running in my house - I'm
>> brighter than that and I care more for my money. Linux is perfectly
>> adequate.[/color]
>
> That's why your in a Windows News Group then right?[/color]

Yeah - I need a little comic relief from time to time - this certainly
provides it.

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObwLoj0UKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
>
> "Leroy" <leroy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4AE083C6.5070204@earthlink.net...
>[color=green]
>> Please repost you question in the Windows 7 Answers Forum:
>> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7[/url][/color]
>
> Better still, repost your statements on Ubuntu, in a Windows Vista forum!
>
> Alias[/color]

Better still don't let anyone use that crappy Ubuntu. Ubuntu won't run any
of your programs. Ubuntu is worthless.

Ubuntu is rejected by 99.9999% of the people who try it. Just FYI.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:38:19 -0700, Frank wrote:
[color=blue]
> ray wrote:[color=green]
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:42:38 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7kbg68F38utp7U4@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>> Maybe in your house. I installed Windows 7 in about 20 minutes.
>>> Another hour for my applications and up and running. If it would take
>>> you 6 months or more, I suggest staying with that crappy Ubuntu that
>>> runs those INFERIOR Open Sores software packages that are junk.
>>>
>>> Windows 7 is way over your head.[/color]
>>
>> Quite frankly, I don't expect to ever see it running in my house - I'm
>> brighter than that and I care more for my money. Linux is perfectly
>> adequate.[/color]
>
> We all know of your hatred and contempt for all things Microsoft which
> begs the question...WTF are you here?[/color]

See response to Rich.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:39:57 -0700, Frank wrote:
[color=blue]
> ray wrote:[color=green]
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:45:39 -0400, Vista Succubus Hunter wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:52 -0400, Saucy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Today's the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for good deals on Windows 7 pricing. You can get deals online,
>>>>> or if you can't wait, look for "Family Packs" at the big box stores
>>>>> and the computer stores which enable you to acquire Windows 7 for
>>>>> only about 65 bucks a copy (which is pretty inexpensive - especially
>>>>> for people who use their software day in and day out all year).
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows 7 is upgradable. It runs faster than Vista, so if you
>>>>> already have a computer that can handle Vista, then you have a
>>>>> computer that can run Windows 7. And in the real world, even older
>>>>> computers can run Windows 7 decently if they have a gig or two of
>>>>> RAM (cheap) and a capable video card (most any you can get today).
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>> Great! And then in about 6-12 months it will actually be usable!
>>> And when did you become an expert's expert on anything, COLA man?[/color]
>>
>> In the early 80's. I learned the hard way, from DEC RSX - you NEVER
>> upgrade to anything as soon as it's released. There are ALWAYS
>> problems.[/color]
>
> So no progress at all since the early 80's huh?[/color]

Not much that I've seen in terms of reliability of initial releases - it
still takes several months to iron things out - vista, for example.