I know this may be the wrong group, but I need a fast answer.
I have Vista Home Premium running. I ordered Windows 7 Professional upgrade.
I just now found the Microsoft advisor, ran it, and it shows I can upgrade
to win 7 premium or ultimate...but not professional is this correct?
Thanks, NP

That is correct. The Professional edition would require a "Custom
Install" which is really a "clean install".

np-nyc wrote:[color=blue]
> I know this may be the wrong group, but I need a fast answer.
> I have Vista Home Premium running. I ordered Windows 7 Professional
> upgrade. I just now found the Microsoft advisor, ran it, and it shows I
> can upgrade to win 7 premium or ultimate...but not professional is this
> correct?
> Thanks, NP
>[/color]

A little more work, but I have done clean installs before...
THANKS, Leroy

"Leroy" <leroy@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:4ADF0D67.20703@earthlink.com...[color=blue]
> That is correct. The Professional edition would require a "Custom Install"
> which is really a "clean install".
>
> np-nyc wrote:[color=green]
>> I know this may be the wrong group, but I need a fast answer.
>> I have Vista Home Premium running. I ordered Windows 7 Professional
>> upgrade. I just now found the Microsoft advisor, ran it, and it shows I
>> can upgrade to win 7 premium or ultimate...but not professional is this
>> correct?
>> Thanks, NP
>>[/color][/color]

"np-nyc" <np1947@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:FB30C43A-BDF1-4099-AE39-B23C9C21FDBA@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I know this may be the wrong group, but I need a fast answer.
> I have Vista Home Premium running. I ordered Windows 7 Professional
> upgrade. I just now found the Microsoft advisor, ran it, and it shows I
> can upgrade to win 7 premium or ultimate...but not professional is this
> correct?
> Thanks, NP
>[/color]

I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade. You can do a
clean install of Win 7 using Vista as a qualifying software.
For a more definitive answer go here:
[url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/threads[/url]

"np-nyc" <np1947@verizon.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I know this may be the wrong group, but I need a fast answer.
>I have Vista Home Premium running. I ordered Windows 7 Professional upgrade.
>I just now found the Microsoft advisor, ran it, and it shows I can upgrade
>to win 7 premium or ultimate...but not professional is this correct?[/color]

Yes. Your Home Premium edition contains features that are not in the
Professional edition, so that's not an upgrade path for you. Ultimate
has all features from all other versions, so that will work.

--
Tim Slattery
[email]Slattery_T@bls.gov[/email]
[url]http://members.cox.net/slatteryt[/url]

Hi, Gordon.
[color=blue]
> I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade.[/color]

Is this a new use for the phrase "in-place upgrade"? I've seen it more than
once today in these newsgroups.

In WinXP, I used the in-place upgrade several times - and many of us advised
users in WinXP newsgroups about when and how to do it. We generally
referred them to this KB article:
How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q315341[/url]

(There are similar KB articles for Win2K and Windows Server 2003 - and maybe
other Windows versions.)

That article explained that, "An in-place upgrade is also named a repair
installation. This operation reinstalls Windows XP to the same folder on
your computer where it was originally installed. You may want to perform an
in-place upgrade if your installation of Windows XP must be repaired..." In
other words, an "in-place upgrade" repairs an existing installation; it does
not upgrade to a different version of Windows - or even a different version
of WinXP.

So an upgrade from any Vista version (Home Premium to Ultimate) to any OTHER
Vista version would not be an "in-place" upgrade. And neither would an
upgrade from any version of Vista (or WinXP) to any version of Windows 7.

If I've "missed the memo" about the new use of the term "in-place upgrade",
please educate me. ;^}

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
[email]rc@grandecom.net[/email]
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
news:ef4p1NlUKHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "np-nyc" <np1947@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:FB30C43A-BDF1-4099-AE39-B23C9C21FDBA@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> I know this may be the wrong group, but I need a fast answer.
>> I have Vista Home Premium running. I ordered Windows 7 Professional
>> upgrade. I just now found the Microsoft advisor, ran it, and it shows I
>> can upgrade to win 7 premium or ultimate...but not professional is this
>> correct?
>> Thanks, NP
>>[/color]
>
> I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade. You can do
> a clean install of Win 7 using Vista as a qualifying software.
> For a more definitive answer go here:
> [url]http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/threads[/url][/color]

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:uGxCGAmUKHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi, Gordon.
>[color=green]
>> I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade.[/color]
>
> Is this a new use for the phrase "in-place upgrade"? I've seen it more
> than once today in these newsgroups.[/color]

AFAIK there's never been more than one meaning of "in place upgrade". It
means upgrading an OS/application without removing the original first, thus
keeping all settings/data etc etc.

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
news:jk3ud5hba7c9s0lhrifivjfd4hh4p5vcqm@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> "np-nyc" <np1947@verizon.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I know this may be the wrong group, but I need a fast answer.
>>I have Vista Home Premium running. I ordered Windows 7 Professional
>>upgrade.
>>I just now found the Microsoft advisor, ran it, and it shows I can upgrade
>>to win 7 premium or ultimate...but not professional is this correct?[/color]
>
> Yes. Your Home Premium edition contains features that are not in the
> Professional edition, so that's not an upgrade path for you. Ultimate
> has all features from all other versions, so that will work.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> [email]Slattery_T@bls.gov[/email]
> [url]http://members.cox.net/slatteryt[/url][/color]

Win 7 Professional contains all features that are in Home Premium.
The only features Ultimate has that Pro doesn't, are BitLocker and
built-in support for 35 languages. That's why Ultimate Upgrade is
only 20 bucks more than Pro Upg.

Vista Business doesn't contain the mutimedia features of Vista
Home Premium.

Hi, Gordon.

"Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
news:ORw4AGmUKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:uGxCGAmUKHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Hi, Gordon.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade.[/color]
>>
>> Is this a new use for the phrase "in-place upgrade"? I've seen it more
>> than once today in these newsgroups.[/color]
>
> AFAIK there's never been more than one meaning of "in place upgrade". It
> means upgrading an OS/application without removing the original first,
> thus keeping all settings/data etc etc.[/color]

I believe that is simply a upgrade, without the "in-place" phrase.

If we are upgrading to a different location - or removing the original
installation and installing a new one on the same volume - then we may be
using an "Upgrade" retail package, but we are actually doing a "clean
install" with it.

While "in-place upgrades" were quite common with WinXP, it is my
understanding that they cannot be done with Vista. At least, not simply to
repair an existing installation, as with WinXP. (See KB article 968279 for
a limited application in Vista.)

But Bing gets lots of hits on "in-place +vista" (mostly from the Answers
forum), so maybe the use of the phrase is broadening and changing from what
I learned several years ago. And your interpretation of the phrase does
seem more logical than equating it to "repair".

Maybe someone will chime in and clarify this for all of us. ;^}

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
[email]rc@grandecom.net[/email]
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

R. C.

To me an "in place upgrade" means a Repair install. It always meant that for me but
as you point out RC the phrase is being used more and more to mean different things
like Upgrading to a different Windows version as an example.
So at this point I always need to read the post completely as to see what the OP
means when he uses the term "in place upgrade"

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:eg7ZqVmUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi, Gordon.
>
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
> news:ORw4AGmUKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
>> news:uGxCGAmUKHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Hi, Gordon.
>>>
>>>> I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade.
>>>
>>> Is this a new use for the phrase "in-place upgrade"? I've seen it more than
>>> once today in these newsgroups.[/color]
>>
>> AFAIK there's never been more than one meaning of "in place upgrade". It means
>> upgrading an OS/application without removing the original first, thus keeping all
>> settings/data etc etc.[/color]
>
> I believe that is simply a upgrade, without the "in-place" phrase.
>
> If we are upgrading to a different location - or removing the original
> installation and installing a new one on the same volume - then we may be using an
> "Upgrade" retail package, but we are actually doing a "clean install" with it.
>
> While "in-place upgrades" were quite common with WinXP, it is my understanding
> that they cannot be done with Vista. At least, not simply to repair an existing
> installation, as with WinXP. (See KB article 968279 for a limited application in
> Vista.)
>
> But Bing gets lots of hits on "in-place +vista" (mostly from the Answers forum),
> so maybe the use of the phrase is broadening and changing from what I learned
> several years ago. And your interpretation of the phrase does seem more logical
> than equating it to "repair".
>
> Maybe someone will chime in and clarify this for all of us. ;^}
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> [email]rc@grandecom.net[/email]
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64[/color]

Crazy, eh? But you will have to choose a custom install, which is really a
type of 'clean install'. So you should organize yourself *before* installing
Windows 7.

Make sure to back up your files and data.

Check your Device Manager and note the various device details. Download
their drivers from the manufacturer's website if you need to [ depending on
your computer's maker or assembler you might already have all the drivers on
a CD - but if not get them and burn to CD-R *before* you install Windows 7 -
you might be surprised though that Windows 7 will probably pick up on most
of the drivers during the install though :o) ]

Gather all your softwares - their product keys and CDs [or copies of them
burned to CD if you downloaded the programs].
Make notes of any details you will need etc. e.g. ISP phone numbers or email
details.

Note that Microsoft provides a wizard called "Windows Easy Transfer":

[Windows Easy Transfer - Microsoft website]
[url]http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-easy-transfer[/url]

Have fun,
Saucy


"np-nyc" <np1947@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:FB30C43A-BDF1-4099-AE39-B23C9C21FDBA@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I know this may be the wrong group, but I need a fast answer.
> I have Vista Home Premium running. I ordered Windows 7 Professional
> upgrade. I just now found the Microsoft advisor, ran it, and it shows I
> can upgrade to win 7 premium or ultimate...but not professional is this
> correct?
> Thanks, NP
>[/color]

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:27:29 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> R. C.
>
> To me an "in place upgrade" means a Repair install.[/color]


I'll throw in my opinion here. It's never meant that to me, and my
view is like RC's--an "in-place upgrade" is simply an "upgrade." An
upgrade and a repair are two completely different things, as far as
I'm concerned.

[color=blue]
> It always meant that for me but
> as you point out RC the phrase is being used more and more to mean different things
> like Upgrading to a different Windows version as an example.
> So at this point I always need to read the post completely as to see what the OP
> means when he uses the term "in place upgrade"[/color]


I'm with you entirely here. In fact, sometime reading carefully isn't
good enough, and it's best to ask to be sure I understand what the
poster is talking about.


[color=blue]
> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:eg7ZqVmUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Hi, Gordon.
> >
> > "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
> > news:ORw4AGmUKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
> >> news:uGxCGAmUKHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> Hi, Gordon.
> >>>
> >>>> I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade.
> >>>
> >>> Is this a new use for the phrase "in-place upgrade"? I've seen it more than
> >>> once today in these newsgroups.
> >>
> >> AFAIK there's never been more than one meaning of "in place upgrade". It means
> >> upgrading an OS/application without removing the original first, thus keeping all
> >> settings/data etc etc.[/color]
> >
> > I believe that is simply a upgrade, without the "in-place" phrase.
> >
> > If we are upgrading to a different location - or removing the original
> > installation and installing a new one on the same volume - then we may be using an
> > "Upgrade" retail package, but we are actually doing a "clean install" with it.
> >
> > While "in-place upgrades" were quite common with WinXP, it is my understanding
> > that they cannot be done with Vista. At least, not simply to repair an existing
> > installation, as with WinXP. (See KB article 968279 for a limited application in
> > Vista.)
> >
> > But Bing gets lots of hits on "in-place +vista" (mostly from the Answers forum),
> > so maybe the use of the phrase is broadening and changing from what I learned
> > several years ago. And your interpretation of the phrase does seem more logical
> > than equating it to "repair".
> >
> > Maybe someone will chime in and clarify this for all of us. ;^}
> >
> > RC
> > --
> > R. C. White, CPA
> > San Marcos, TX
> > [email]rc@grandecom.net[/email]
> > Microsoft Windows MVP
> > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64[/color][/color]

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

IMHO:

Well, for the longest time "upgrade" meant installing a newer operating
system (OS) over the older one without removing the older first. Third party
programs wouldn't have to be reinstalled, the users data would still be
there.

Then the "in-place upgrade" and "Repair install" upgrades came along used to
indicate the reinstalling of the *same* OS without removing the original
installation as a method to fix problems and issues etc. etc. essentially
the same as an "upgrade" with the exception that the old OS is the same
version as the new OS.

Then "in-place upgrade" came to indicate the same thing as "upgrade" for
some reason -- probably to differentiate an "upgrade" from other types of
installation such as a "custom install" (which seems to be a variant of a
"clean install" where the clean install process is started by running a
wizard in the old OS -- the user may perceive it to be an upgrade -- and
there maybe some backup -- but defacto, it is really a "clean install" --
but since it is slightly different there's need of the new differentiating
term) and a clean install (installing an OS fresh on a new harddrive (HDD)
or wiped HDD).

Saucy



"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:md0vd5hg6rmj47csqsj2o7lekqpa2hqge2@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:27:29 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> R. C.
>>
>> To me an "in place upgrade" means a Repair install.[/color]
>
>
> I'll throw in my opinion here. It's never meant that to me, and my
> view is like RC's--an "in-place upgrade" is simply an "upgrade." An
> upgrade and a repair are two completely different things, as far as
> I'm concerned.
>
>[color=green]
>> It always meant that for me but
>> as you point out RC the phrase is being used more and more to mean
>> different things
>> like Upgrading to a different Windows version as an example.
>> So at this point I always need to read the post completely as to see what
>> the OP
>> means when he uses the term "in place upgrade"[/color]
>
>
> I'm with you entirely here. In fact, sometime reading carefully isn't
> good enough, and it's best to ask to be sure I understand what the
> poster is talking about.
>
>
>[color=green]
>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
>> news:eg7ZqVmUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > Hi, Gordon.
>> >
>> > "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ORw4AGmUKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >>
>> >> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:uGxCGAmUKHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >>> Hi, Gordon.
>> >>>
>> >>>> I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is this a new use for the phrase "in-place upgrade"? I've seen it
>> >>> more than
>> >>> once today in these newsgroups.
>> >>
>> >> AFAIK there's never been more than one meaning of "in place upgrade".
>> >> It means
>> >> upgrading an OS/application without removing the original first, thus
>> >> keeping all
>> >> settings/data etc etc.
>> >
>> > I believe that is simply a upgrade, without the "in-place" phrase.
>> >
>> > If we are upgrading to a different location - or removing the original
>> > installation and installing a new one on the same volume - then we may
>> > be using an
>> > "Upgrade" retail package, but we are actually doing a "clean install"
>> > with it.
>> >
>> > While "in-place upgrades" were quite common with WinXP, it is my
>> > understanding
>> > that they cannot be done with Vista. At least, not simply to repair an
>> > existing
>> > installation, as with WinXP. (See KB article 968279 for a limited
>> > application in
>> > Vista.)
>> >
>> > But Bing gets lots of hits on "in-place +vista" (mostly from the
>> > Answers forum),
>> > so maybe the use of the phrase is broadening and changing from what I
>> > learned
>> > several years ago. And your interpretation of the phrase does seem
>> > more logical
>> > than equating it to "repair".
>> >
>> > Maybe someone will chime in and clarify this for all of us. ;^}
>> >
>> > RC
>> > --
>> > R. C. White, CPA
>> > San Marcos, TX
>> > [email]rc@grandecom.net[/email]
>> > Microsoft Windows MVP
>> > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64[/color][/color]
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]

Hi, Saucy.

Right!

Perhaps those unfamiliar with the term think that "in-place" means back into
the same partition. That does sound more logical, since the term includes
the word "place". But the term "in-place upgrade" still means to "upgrade"
to THE SAME OPERATING SYSTEM as already installed in that place.

At least, that's what it still means to me.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
[email]rc@grandecom.net[/email]
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Saucy" <saucylemon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:ezjFW2xUKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> IMHO:
>
> Well, for the longest time "upgrade" meant installing a newer operating
> system (OS) over the older one without removing the older first. Third
> party programs wouldn't have to be reinstalled, the users data would still
> be there.
>
> Then the "in-place upgrade" and "Repair install" upgrades came along used
> to indicate the reinstalling of the *same* OS without removing the
> original installation as a method to fix problems and issues etc. etc.
> essentially the same as an "upgrade" with the exception that the old OS is
> the same version as the new OS.
>
> Then "in-place upgrade" came to indicate the same thing as "upgrade" for
> some reason -- probably to differentiate an "upgrade" from other types of
> installation such as a "custom install" (which seems to be a variant of a
> "clean install" where the clean install process is started by running a
> wizard in the old OS -- the user may perceive it to be an upgrade -- and
> there maybe some backup -- but defacto, it is really a "clean install" --
> but since it is slightly different there's need of the new differentiating
> term) and a clean install (installing an OS fresh on a new harddrive (HDD)
> or wiped HDD).
>
> Saucy
>
>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:md0vd5hg6rmj47csqsj2o7lekqpa2hqge2@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:27:29 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22********.com>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> R. C.
>>>
>>> To me an "in place upgrade" means a Repair install.[/color]
>>
>>
>> I'll throw in my opinion here. It's never meant that to me, and my
>> view is like RC's--an "in-place upgrade" is simply an "upgrade." An
>> upgrade and a repair are two completely different things, as far as
>> I'm concerned.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> It always meant that for me but
>>> as you point out RC the phrase is being used more and more to mean
>>> different things
>>> like Upgrading to a different Windows version as an example.
>>> So at this point I always need to read the post completely as to see
>>> what the OP
>>> means when he uses the term "in place upgrade"[/color]
>>
>>
>> I'm with you entirely here. In fact, sometime reading carefully isn't
>> good enough, and it's best to ask to be sure I understand what the
>> poster is talking about.
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eg7ZqVmUKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> > Hi, Gordon.
>>> >
>>> > "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:ORw4AGmUKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> >>
>>> >> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:uGxCGAmUKHA.1576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> >>> Hi, Gordon.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I think what it means is that you can't do an IN-PLACE upgrade.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is this a new use for the phrase "in-place upgrade"? I've seen it
>>> >>> more than
>>> >>> once today in these newsgroups.
>>> >>
>>> >> AFAIK there's never been more than one meaning of "in place upgrade".
>>> >> It means
>>> >> upgrading an OS/application without removing the original first, thus
>>> >> keeping all
>>> >> settings/data etc etc.
>>> >
>>> > I believe that is simply a upgrade, without the "in-place" phrase.
>>> >
>>> > If we are upgrading to a different location - or removing the original
>>> > installation and installing a new one on the same volume - then we may
>>> > be using an
>>> > "Upgrade" retail package, but we are actually doing a "clean install"
>>> > with it.
>>> >
>>> > While "in-place upgrades" were quite common with WinXP, it is my
>>> > understanding
>>> > that they cannot be done with Vista. At least, not simply to repair
>>> > an existing
>>> > installation, as with WinXP. (See KB article 968279 for a limited
>>> > application in
>>> > Vista.)
>>> >
>>> > But Bing gets lots of hits on "in-place +vista" (mostly from the
>>> > Answers forum),
>>> > so maybe the use of the phrase is broadening and changing from what I
>>> > learned
>>> > several years ago. And your interpretation of the phrase does seem
>>> > more logical
>>> > than equating it to "repair".
>>> >
>>> > Maybe someone will chime in and clarify this for all of us. ;^}
>>> >
>>> > RC[/color]
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003[/color][/color]