Here are some samples of problems taken from the Ubuntuforums a few minutes
ago. I guess Ubuntu still sucks:

missing task bars on start up

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello all, I am new to the wonderful world of linux. I don't know if this is
where the thread should go but here goes. I just re-installed ubuntu 9.04 on
my acer netbook ( I have been running ubuntu 9.04 for a few months now on
this laptop with no problems). after I made a clean install I logged on and
installed a couple apps. When the update manager came up i installed. Then
it needed a reeboot. I rebooted. now there is only my wallpaper and mouse. I
can right click and change the wall paper and add a folder..... I don't have
the taskbars to do anything though. what happened? Is there a conflict? or a
way to get the task bars? should I re-install? any help would be greatly
appreciated.

-york629.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Problems with nvidia driver after upgrade to jaunty



I just upgraded to jaunty and upgrade went ok, however after installing the
proprietary nvidia driver (forgive me, I don't have the version number at
hand - 818 or so), the system boots into safe-graphic mode with
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
(EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
in the Xorg.log.

Checking with lsmod, it looks like the nvidia kernel is indeed not loaded.

I've attached lspci and lsmod output along with xorg log and conf files. I'd
appreciate any hint on why this isn't working.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi all
I just reinstalled 8.04 and it keeps freezing on me. I have run into threads
that indicate that issue is caused by the kernel and that an updated kernel
could resolve it.
Unfortunately, hardy freezes everytime I attempt to install kernel-package
to update the kernel.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
grub 2 doesnt let me boot ubuntu

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

when i boot my laptop it has the grub 1 menu and at the top it says that i
am using debain (not ubuntu like i am) and when i try to load grub 2 or
"debian" (witch is ubuntu)it says error 11: unrecognised device string
im using windows on the same laptop so at least i can boot into that is
there anything i can do to get ubuntu back
thanks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UNetbootin error while installing openSUSE from Ubuntu using downloaded
..iso

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm trying to install openSUSE from Ubuntu 8.10 on another partition using
UNetbootin thru downloaded openSUSE-11.1-Beta4-GNOME-LiveCD-i686.iso

On UNetbootin interface, in order to select the partition where I want to
install openSUSE I have to select 'USB Drive' to get '/dev/sdb1'. If I
select 'Hard Disk' under 'Type', I get only one option of '/' under 'Drive',
and 'Show All Drives' becomes grayed out.

Provided path to downloaded openSUSE ISO under 'Diskimage' and upon hitting
OK, UNetbootin generated 654 MB 'openSUSE-11.1-read-only.i686-2.7.0' file,
boot folder & bunch of other files in /dev/sdb1.

Next I added two entries into Ubunu grub:

:::::
title Option# 1: /boot/i386/loader/linux
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/i386/loader/linux
initrd /boot/i386/loader/initrd

title Option# 2: /ubnkern
root (hd1,0)
kernel /ubnkern
initrd /ubninit
:::::

Rebooting with either option I get stuck at following:

:::::
Loading KIWI CD Boot-System....

Waiting for CD/DVD device(s) to appear...
Mounting CD/DVD drive
Couldn't find CD image configuration file
rebootException: error consoles at ALT-F3/F4
rebootException: reboot in 120 sec...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
screwed during fresh install of 9.04

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Why is it that after all these years trying to use Ubuntu that I am still in
the dark and having to come here to find a fix ?

Maybe Ubuntu developers should be able to use Windows before they start
programming Linux ? Sorry if that hurts, but it might help Windose users to
migrate smoothly to a point where they can reliably use the Ubuntu OS for
business purposes.

OK, gripe begins.

This is not the first time that a supposed simple update of Ubuntu trashed
the installation and the other OS which was on the machine.

OK 8 had it's weaknesses but try installing 9.04 on an ordinary old Toshiba
Satalite laptop, one that doesn't have a wide screen and what do I get, a
wide screen during installation which means I can't use the Option to
specify the partition size as the end of the slider has disappeared off the
screen.

Any ideas how I progress so I can dual boot with XP, and choose the
partition size for Ubuntu 9.04 ? I only have 30Gb to share between 'em, I
would like 10Gb for Linux.

I have a BSc in this game and it doesn't appear to be much use when using
Ubuntu. There always seems to be some catch.

And this is it. Now there isn't enough space on the hard drive to share 9.04
with Windows XP.
It requires at least 20 Gb ! Durrr !

I give up. Windows it will be now until hell freezes over !

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:09:19 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
[color=blue]
> Here are some samples of problems taken from the Ubuntuforums a few
> minutes ago. I guess Ubuntu still sucks:
>
> missing task bars on start up
>
>[/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
>
> Hello all, I am new to the wonderful world of linux. I don't know if
> this is where the thread should go but here goes. I just re-installed
> ubuntu 9.04 on my acer netbook ( I have been running ubuntu 9.04 for a
> few months now on this laptop with no problems). after I made a clean
> install I logged on and installed a couple apps. When the update manager
> came up i installed. Then it needed a reeboot. I rebooted. now there is
> only my wallpaper and mouse. I can right click and change the wall paper
> and add a folder..... I don't have the taskbars to do anything though.
> what happened? Is there a conflict? or a way to get the task bars?
> should I re-install? any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -york629.
>[/color]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
> Problems with nvidia driver after upgrade to jaunty
>
>
>
> I just upgraded to jaunty and upgrade went ok, however after installing
> the proprietary nvidia driver (forgive me, I don't have the version
> number at hand - 818 or so), the system boots into safe-graphic mode
> with (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! (EE)
> NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
> in the Xorg.log.
>
> Checking with lsmod, it looks like the nvidia kernel is indeed not
> loaded.
>
> I've attached lspci and lsmod output along with xorg log and conf files.
> I'd appreciate any hint on why this isn't working.
>
>[/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
> Hi all
> I just reinstalled 8.04 and it keeps freezing on me. I have run into
> threads that indicate that issue is caused by the kernel and that an
> updated kernel could resolve it.
> Unfortunately, hardy freezes everytime I attempt to install
> kernel-package to update the kernel.
>
>[/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
> grub 2 doesnt let me boot ubuntu
>
>[/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
>
> when i boot my laptop it has the grub 1 menu and at the top it says that
> i am using debain (not ubuntu like i am) and when i try to load grub 2
> or "debian" (witch is ubuntu)it says error 11: unrecognised device
> string im using windows on the same laptop so at least i can boot into
> that is there anything i can do to get ubuntu back thanks
>[/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
> UNetbootin error while installing openSUSE from Ubuntu using downloaded
> .iso
>
>[/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
>
> I'm trying to install openSUSE from Ubuntu 8.10 on another partition
> using UNetbootin thru downloaded
> openSUSE-11.1-Beta4-GNOME-LiveCD-i686.iso
>
> On UNetbootin interface, in order to select the partition where I want
> to install openSUSE I have to select 'USB Drive' to get '/dev/sdb1'. If
> I select 'Hard Disk' under 'Type', I get only one option of '/' under
> 'Drive', and 'Show All Drives' becomes grayed out.
>
> Provided path to downloaded openSUSE ISO under 'Diskimage' and upon
> hitting OK, UNetbootin generated 654 MB
> 'openSUSE-11.1-read-only.i686-2.7.0' file, boot folder & bunch of other
> files in /dev/sdb1.
>
> Next I added two entries into Ubunu grub:
>
> :::::
> title Option# 1: /boot/i386/loader/linux root (hd1,0)
> kernel /boot/i386/loader/linux
> initrd /boot/i386/loader/initrd
>
> title Option# 2: /ubnkern
> root (hd1,0)
> kernel /ubnkern
> initrd /ubninit
> :::::
>
> Rebooting with either option I get stuck at following:
>
> :::::
> Loading KIWI CD Boot-System....
>
> Waiting for CD/DVD device(s) to appear... Mounting CD/DVD drive
> Couldn't find CD image configuration file rebootException: error
> consoles at ALT-F3/F4 rebootException: reboot in 120 sec...
>
>[/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
> screwed during fresh install of 9.04
>
>[/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue]
>
> Why is it that after all these years trying to use Ubuntu that I am
> still in the dark and having to come here to find a fix ?
>
> Maybe Ubuntu developers should be able to use Windows before they start
> programming Linux ? Sorry if that hurts, but it might help Windose users
> to migrate smoothly to a point where they can reliably use the Ubuntu OS
> for business purposes.
>
> OK, gripe begins.
>
> This is not the first time that a supposed simple update of Ubuntu
> trashed the installation and the other OS which was on the machine.
>
> OK 8 had it's weaknesses but try installing 9.04 on an ordinary old
> Toshiba Satalite laptop, one that doesn't have a wide screen and what do
> I get, a wide screen during installation which means I can't use the
> Option to specify the partition size as the end of the slider has
> disappeared off the screen.
>
> Any ideas how I progress so I can dual boot with XP, and choose the
> partition size for Ubuntu 9.04 ? I only have 30Gb to share between 'em,
> I would like 10Gb for Linux.
>
> I have a BSc in this game and it doesn't appear to be much use when
> using Ubuntu. There always seems to be some catch.
>
> And this is it. Now there isn't enough space on the hard drive to share
> 9.04 with Windows XP.
> It requires at least 20 Gb ! Durrr !
>
> I give up. Windows it will be now until hell freezes over ![/color]

Quite easy if you have room temperature IQ and can read. Only problems
I've ever experienced were quickly traced back to hardware errors.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:04:35 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
[color=blue]
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7jrqmrF37fbpiU8@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:09:19 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Here are some samples of problems taken from the Ubuntuforums a few
>>> minutes ago. I guess Ubuntu still sucks:
>>>
>>> missing task bars on start up
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Hello all, I am new to the wonderful world of linux. I don't know if
>>> this is where the thread should go but here goes. I just re-installed
>>> ubuntu 9.04 on my acer netbook ( I have been running ubuntu 9.04 for a
>>> few months now on this laptop with no problems). after I made a clean
>>> install I logged on and installed a couple apps. When the update
>>> manager came up i installed. Then it needed a reeboot. I rebooted. now
>>> there is only my wallpaper and mouse. I can right click and change the
>>> wall paper and add a folder..... I don't have the taskbars to do
>>> anything though. what happened? Is there a conflict? or a way to get
>>> the task bars? should I re-install? any help would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> -york629.
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Problems with nvidia driver after upgrade to jaunty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just upgraded to jaunty and upgrade went ok, however after
>>> installing the proprietary nvidia driver (forgive me, I don't have the
>>> version number at hand - 818 or so), the system boots into
>>> safe-graphic mode with (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA
>>> kernel module! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
>>> in the Xorg.log.
>>>
>>> Checking with lsmod, it looks like the nvidia kernel is indeed not
>>> loaded.
>>>
>>> I've attached lspci and lsmod output along with xorg log and conf
>>> files. I'd appreciate any hint on why this isn't working.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Hi all
>>> I just reinstalled 8.04 and it keeps freezing on me. I have run into
>>> threads that indicate that issue is caused by the kernel and that an
>>> updated kernel could resolve it.
>>> Unfortunately, hardy freezes everytime I attempt to install
>>> kernel-package to update the kernel.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> grub 2 doesnt let me boot ubuntu
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> when i boot my laptop it has the grub 1 menu and at the top it says
>>> that i am using debain (not ubuntu like i am) and when i try to load
>>> grub 2 or "debian" (witch is ubuntu)it says error 11: unrecognised
>>> device string im using windows on the same laptop so at least i can
>>> boot into that is there anything i can do to get ubuntu back thanks
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> UNetbootin error while installing openSUSE from Ubuntu using
>>> downloaded
>>> .iso
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> I'm trying to install openSUSE from Ubuntu 8.10 on another partition
>>> using UNetbootin thru downloaded
>>> openSUSE-11.1-Beta4-GNOME-LiveCD-i686.iso
>>>
>>> On UNetbootin interface, in order to select the partition where I want
>>> to install openSUSE I have to select 'USB Drive' to get '/dev/sdb1'.
>>> If I select 'Hard Disk' under 'Type', I get only one option of '/'
>>> under 'Drive', and 'Show All Drives' becomes grayed out.
>>>
>>> Provided path to downloaded openSUSE ISO under 'Diskimage' and upon
>>> hitting OK, UNetbootin generated 654 MB
>>> 'openSUSE-11.1-read-only.i686-2.7.0' file, boot folder & bunch of
>>> other files in /dev/sdb1.
>>>
>>> Next I added two entries into Ubunu grub:
>>>
>>> :::::
>>> title Option# 1: /boot/i386/loader/linux root (hd1,0) kernel
>>> /boot/i386/loader/linux
>>> initrd /boot/i386/loader/initrd
>>>
>>> title Option# 2: /ubnkern
>>> root (hd1,0)
>>> kernel /ubnkern
>>> initrd /ubninit
>>> :::::
>>>
>>> Rebooting with either option I get stuck at following:
>>>
>>> :::::
>>> Loading KIWI CD Boot-System....
>>>
>>> Waiting for CD/DVD device(s) to appear... Mounting CD/DVD drive
>>> Couldn't find CD image configuration file rebootException: error
>>> consoles at ALT-F3/F4 rebootException: reboot in 120 sec...
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> screwed during fresh install of 9.04
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Why is it that after all these years trying to use Ubuntu that I am
>>> still in the dark and having to come here to find a fix ?
>>>
>>> Maybe Ubuntu developers should be able to use Windows before they
>>> start programming Linux ? Sorry if that hurts, but it might help
>>> Windose users to migrate smoothly to a point where they can reliably
>>> use the Ubuntu OS for business purposes.
>>>
>>> OK, gripe begins.
>>>
>>> This is not the first time that a supposed simple update of Ubuntu
>>> trashed the installation and the other OS which was on the machine.
>>>
>>> OK 8 had it's weaknesses but try installing 9.04 on an ordinary old
>>> Toshiba Satalite laptop, one that doesn't have a wide screen and what
>>> do I get, a wide screen during installation which means I can't use
>>> the Option to specify the partition size as the end of the slider has
>>> disappeared off the screen.
>>>
>>> Any ideas how I progress so I can dual boot with XP, and choose the
>>> partition size for Ubuntu 9.04 ? I only have 30Gb to share between
>>> 'em, I would like 10Gb for Linux.
>>>
>>> I have a BSc in this game and it doesn't appear to be much use when
>>> using Ubuntu. There always seems to be some catch.
>>>
>>> And this is it. Now there isn't enough space on the hard drive to
>>> share 9.04 with Windows XP.
>>> It requires at least 20 Gb ! Durrr !
>>>
>>> I give up. Windows it will be now until hell freezes over ![/color]
>>
>> Quite easy if you have room temperature IQ and can read. Only problems
>> I've ever experienced were quickly traced back to hardware errors.[/color]
>
> Try telling that to the sorry sacks who still haven't had responses to
> their issues. After reading quite a few of the problems, it seems
> Ubuntu really isn't that friendly. Alias makes it seem like it's a cake
> walk when in reality it isn't. Oops.[/color]

If you don't have a room temperature IQ and the ability to read, yeah -
it's a real pisser.

ray wrote:[color=blue]
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:04:35 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7jrqmrF37fbpiU8@mid.individual.net...[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:09:19 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here are some samples of problems taken from the Ubuntuforums a few
>>>> minutes ago. I guess Ubuntu still sucks:
>>>>
>>>> missing task bars on start up
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Hello all, I am new to the wonderful world of linux. I don't know if
>>>> this is where the thread should go but here goes. I just re-installed
>>>> ubuntu 9.04 on my acer netbook ( I have been running ubuntu 9.04 for a
>>>> few months now on this laptop with no problems). after I made a clean
>>>> install I logged on and installed a couple apps. When the update
>>>> manager came up i installed. Then it needed a reeboot. I rebooted. now
>>>> there is only my wallpaper and mouse. I can right click and change the
>>>> wall paper and add a folder..... I don't have the taskbars to do
>>>> anything though. what happened? Is there a conflict? or a way to get
>>>> the task bars? should I re-install? any help would be greatly
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> -york629.
>>>>[/color][/color]
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Problems with nvidia driver after upgrade to jaunty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just upgraded to jaunty and upgrade went ok, however after
>>>> installing the proprietary nvidia driver (forgive me, I don't have the
>>>> version number at hand - 818 or so), the system boots into
>>>> safe-graphic mode with (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA
>>>> kernel module! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
>>>> in the Xorg.log.
>>>>
>>>> Checking with lsmod, it looks like the nvidia kernel is indeed not
>>>> loaded.
>>>>
>>>> I've attached lspci and lsmod output along with xorg log and conf
>>>> files. I'd appreciate any hint on why this isn't working.
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Hi all
>>>> I just reinstalled 8.04 and it keeps freezing on me. I have run into
>>>> threads that indicate that issue is caused by the kernel and that an
>>>> updated kernel could resolve it.
>>>> Unfortunately, hardy freezes everytime I attempt to install
>>>> kernel-package to update the kernel.
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> grub 2 doesnt let me boot ubuntu
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> when i boot my laptop it has the grub 1 menu and at the top it says
>>>> that i am using debain (not ubuntu like i am) and when i try to load
>>>> grub 2 or "debian" (witch is ubuntu)it says error 11: unrecognised
>>>> device string im using windows on the same laptop so at least i can
>>>> boot into that is there anything i can do to get ubuntu back thanks
>>>>[/color][/color]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> UNetbootin error while installing openSUSE from Ubuntu using
>>>> downloaded
>>>> .iso
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> I'm trying to install openSUSE from Ubuntu 8.10 on another partition
>>>> using UNetbootin thru downloaded
>>>> openSUSE-11.1-Beta4-GNOME-LiveCD-i686.iso
>>>>
>>>> On UNetbootin interface, in order to select the partition where I want
>>>> to install openSUSE I have to select 'USB Drive' to get '/dev/sdb1'.
>>>> If I select 'Hard Disk' under 'Type', I get only one option of '/'
>>>> under 'Drive', and 'Show All Drives' becomes grayed out.
>>>>
>>>> Provided path to downloaded openSUSE ISO under 'Diskimage' and upon
>>>> hitting OK, UNetbootin generated 654 MB
>>>> 'openSUSE-11.1-read-only.i686-2.7.0' file, boot folder & bunch of
>>>> other files in /dev/sdb1.
>>>>
>>>> Next I added two entries into Ubunu grub:
>>>>
>>>> :::::
>>>> title Option# 1: /boot/i386/loader/linux root (hd1,0) kernel
>>>> /boot/i386/loader/linux
>>>> initrd /boot/i386/loader/initrd
>>>>
>>>> title Option# 2: /ubnkern
>>>> root (hd1,0)
>>>> kernel /ubnkern
>>>> initrd /ubninit
>>>> :::::
>>>>
>>>> Rebooting with either option I get stuck at following:
>>>>
>>>> :::::
>>>> Loading KIWI CD Boot-System....
>>>>
>>>> Waiting for CD/DVD device(s) to appear... Mounting CD/DVD drive
>>>> Couldn't find CD image configuration file rebootException: error
>>>> consoles at ALT-F3/F4 rebootException: reboot in 120 sec...
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> screwed during fresh install of 9.04
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Why is it that after all these years trying to use Ubuntu that I am
>>>> still in the dark and having to come here to find a fix ?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe Ubuntu developers should be able to use Windows before they
>>>> start programming Linux ? Sorry if that hurts, but it might help
>>>> Windose users to migrate smoothly to a point where they can reliably
>>>> use the Ubuntu OS for business purposes.
>>>>
>>>> OK, gripe begins.
>>>>
>>>> This is not the first time that a supposed simple update of Ubuntu
>>>> trashed the installation and the other OS which was on the machine.
>>>>
>>>> OK 8 had it's weaknesses but try installing 9.04 on an ordinary old
>>>> Toshiba Satalite laptop, one that doesn't have a wide screen and what
>>>> do I get, a wide screen during installation which means I can't use
>>>> the Option to specify the partition size as the end of the slider has
>>>> disappeared off the screen.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas how I progress so I can dual boot with XP, and choose the
>>>> partition size for Ubuntu 9.04 ? I only have 30Gb to share between
>>>> 'em, I would like 10Gb for Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I have a BSc in this game and it doesn't appear to be much use when
>>>> using Ubuntu. There always seems to be some catch.
>>>>
>>>> And this is it. Now there isn't enough space on the hard drive to
>>>> share 9.04 with Windows XP.
>>>> It requires at least 20 Gb ! Durrr !
>>>>
>>>> I give up. Windows it will be now until hell freezes over !
>>> Quite easy if you have room temperature IQ and can read. Only problems
>>> I've ever experienced were quickly traced back to hardware errors.[/color]
>> Try telling that to the sorry sacks who still haven't had responses to
>> their issues. After reading quite a few of the problems, it seems
>> Ubuntu really isn't that friendly. Alias makes it seem like it's a cake
>> walk when in reality it isn't. Oops.[/color]
>
> If you don't have a room temperature IQ and the ability to read, yeah -
> it's a real pisser.[/color]

And that's what leaves the nymshifter with the third grade humor out the
proverbial window.

Alias