and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
[url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] and it's free and comes with access to thousands
of free programs!

What you can do with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:

1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and
anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
being compromised.

2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your
password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ha4e7b$dp2$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> and you shouldn't download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
>> <SNIP DISGUSTING LINK>
>>
>> What you can do with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Email[/color]
>
> Yes you can email.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install an email program[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Surf the web[/color]
>
> Yes you can surf the web.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a browser.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Burn CDs.[/color]
>
> This takes specialized software. You need to know where to look with
> Ubuntu.
> Could take you hours to find the right version.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a burning program.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Rip CDs.[/color]
>
> This could be done but not easily.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a ripping program.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Listen to music.[/color]
>
> Sure. Put your IPOD next to your computer and you can listen to music.[/color]

Again, sigh, I meant using your computer to listen to music, moron!
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.[/color]
>
> Not without specialized software. This could take you many hours to locate
> even if you know what you want. Try the TV and DVD player hooked up to
> your
> TV. Not with Ubuntu.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a program to watch videos, DVDs and the TV.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Scan and print.[/color]
>
> This is what your printer is for.[/color]

Printers scan? Since when, moron?
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Spreadsheets.[/color]
>
> You can calclulate maybe 100-200 numbers. It will be slow. Open Sores
> software is not that smart.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a spreadsheet program.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Presentations[/color]
>
> Sure - Bring paper make many copies and pass them out to everyone in the
> room.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a presentation program.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Newsgroups.[/color]
>
> Yes you can post to newsgroups. Alias does it so I guess you can also.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a newsreader.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> HTML editing.[/color]
>
> Very basic edits.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a HTML editor.[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.[/color]
>
> Sure Ubuntu can run very basic LIMITED games. For real games you need
> Windows or XBOX or PS3.
>
>[color=green]
>> Make videos.[/color]
>
> Sure. That is what your Video Camera is for. Making videos. You can't
> make
> videos with Ubuntu.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a program to do it.[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.[/color]
>
> Sure you can download photos. You just can do anything with them once they
> get to Ubuntu.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a photo organizer program.[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Translations.[/color]
>
> Yes you need to have many things translated before using Ubuntu. Ubuntu is
> not friendly so doing things will take you many hours. In Windows, it
> takes
> minutes.[/color]

Again, sigh, I meant translating text from one language to another.
You're really slow aren't you?
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Use a dictionary[/color]
>
> Sure - Take the dictionary off the shelf and look up words.[/color]

No, use a program that comes with Ubuntu. I have told you this upteen
times and you still don't understand? Are you really that dim witted?
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Learn how to touch type.[/color]
>
> That is what your keyboard is for.[/color]

NO, keyboard can't teach you how to touch type. Look up touch type and
maybe you can get over your hunt and peck typing "ability".
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Edit images.[/color]
>
> Sure - you can edit images to brighten the image. For more complex edits
> you need Adobe products - Try the Windows platform.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download pay for and install photoshop.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Send and receive a fax.[/color]
>
> This is what your printer is for! LOL![/color]

No, again, Mr Dim Witted, *some* printers can fax but professionals (not
you) use a fax modem or a fax machine.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Take screenshots.[/color]
>
> BFD. So you can take a screenshot of Ubuntu doing NOTHING.[/color]

You're an idiot.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Create .PDF files.[/color]
>
> Maybe. It will take you a long time to find the correct program to do this
> with Ubuntu.[/color]

Yep, you're dim witted. I already told you that Ubuntu comes with PDF
Editor.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Create and use a data base.[/color]
>
> Sure you can open a text file and insert data.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a data base program.[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>> Windows Live Messenger.[/color]
>
> You want to run Windows Live messenger? Run Windows. Ubuntu sucks.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install a IM program.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> IRC.[/color]
>
> Maybe.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install an IRC program.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> Bluetooth.[/color]
>
> With an hour or two of tweaking you might be able to get a simple device to
> work for a minute or so.[/color]

Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
download and install bluetooth.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>> and NOT much more!
>>
>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>[/color]
> ANY REAL WORK[/color]

After a clean install, I can get to work HOURS before you can.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>[/color]

Bill Yanaire wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hba3u4$el4$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ha4e7b$dp2$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> and you shouldn't download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10
>>>> from
>>>> <SNIP DISGUSTING LINK>
>>>>
>>>> What you can do with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Email
>>>
>>> Yes you can email.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install an email program[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Surf the web
>>>
>>> Yes you can surf the web.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a browser.
>>[/color]
>
> A browser comes with Windows 7. Has been that way for years. You don't
> use Windows. Idiot.[/color]

Not any more. Now there's a ballot box to choose which browser you want
to download and install. You're way behind the tech times, dim wit.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>
>>> This takes specialized software. You need to know where to look with
>>> Ubuntu.
>>> Could take you hours to find the right version.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a burning program.
>>[/color]
>
> You can burn CD's with Windows 7. Oops. You have no clue how Windows
> works. You are an idiot.[/color]

Really? With which program?
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>
>>> This could be done but not easily.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a ripping program.
>>[/color]
>
> Installing a program is easy with Windows 7.[/color]

Changing the subject, eh? Why am I not surprised?
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Listen to music.
>>>
>>> Sure. Put your IPOD next to your computer and you can listen to music.[/color]
>>
>> Again, sigh, I meant using your computer to listen to music, moron!
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> Again, be more clear as to your comments. You are an idiot.
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>
>>> Not without specialized software. This could take you many hours to
>>> locate
>>> even if you know what you want. Try the TV and DVD player hooked up
>>> to your
>>> TV. Not with Ubuntu.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a program to watch videos, DVDs and the TV.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> Install a program and it works.[/color]

But Windows 7 can't do it out of the box like Ubuntu can, the point, moron.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Scan and print.
>>>
>>> This is what your printer is for.[/color]
>>
>> Printers scan? Since when, moron?
>>[/color]
>
> So you've never heard of multi-function printers? I didn't think so.[/color]

I have heard of multi purpose printers/scanners but YOU said printer,
not multifunction *anything*.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>
>>> You can calclulate maybe 100-200 numbers. It will be slow. Open Sores
>>> software is not that smart.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a spreadsheet program.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> If you were desperate you could even use Open Sores programs with
> Windows 7. With Ubuntu, you can't run Windows programs. Oops.
> Ubuntu loses again.[/color]

But Windows 7 can't do it out of the box like Ubuntu can, the point, moron.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Presentations
>>>
>>> Sure - Bring paper make many copies and pass them out to everyone in the
>>> room.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a presentation program.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> Install a program. Easy with Windows 7.[/color]

But Windows 7 can't do it out of the box like Ubuntu can, the point, moron.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>
>>> Yes you can post to newsgroups. Alias does it so I guess you can also.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a newsreader.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> BFD. Install a free newsreader. With Windows 7 you have choices.[/color]

But Windows 7 can't do it out of the box like Ubuntu can, the point, moron.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> HTML editing.
>>>
>>> Very basic edits.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a HTML editor.[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> Download and install what you want. Easy.[/color]

But Windows 7 can't do But Windows 7 can't do it out of the box like
Ubuntu can, the point, moron.it out of the box like Ubuntu can, the
point, moron.[color=blue]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>
>>> Sure Ubuntu can run very basic LIMITED games. For real games you need
>>> Windows or XBOX or PS3.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Make videos.
>>>
>>> Sure. That is what your Video Camera is for. Making videos. You
>>> can't make
>>> videos with Ubuntu.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a program to do it.[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> Download and install the quality program you wish. You could even
> download an INFERIOR Open Sores version but who would want to?[/color]

But Windows 7 can't do it out of the box like Ubuntu can, the point, moron.[color=blue]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>
>>> Sure you can download photos. You just can do anything with them
>>> once they
>>> get to Ubuntu.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a photo organizer program.[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
> Download a program. Even free Open Sores versions. But who would want
> to use Open Sores software when there are quality programs out there?[/color]

But Windows 7 can't do it out of the box like Ubuntu can, the point, moron.[color=blue]
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Translations.
>>>
>>> Yes you need to have many things translated before using Ubuntu.
>>> Ubuntu is
>>> not friendly so doing things will take you many hours. In Windows,
>>> it takes
>>> minutes.[/color]
>>
>> Again, sigh, I meant translating text from one language to another.
>> You're really slow aren't you?
>>[/color]
>
> Maybe you should qualify your posts so there is no question as to the
> meaning. Oops, you use Ubuntu so you are stupid.[/color]

It's not my fault that you don't know what translations means.[color=blue]
>
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>
>>> Sure - Take the dictionary off the shelf and look up words.[/color]
>>
>> No, use a program that comes with Ubuntu. I have told you this upteen
>> times and you still don't understand? Are you really that dim witted?
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>
>>> That is what your keyboard is for.[/color]
>>
>> NO, keyboard can't teach you how to touch type. Look up touch type and
>> maybe you can get over your hunt and peck typing "ability".
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> You use your keyboard to practice, dumb ****.[/color]

He's finally almost getting it!
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Edit images.
>>>
>>> Sure - you can edit images to brighten the image. For more complex
>>> edits
>>> you need Adobe products - Try the Windows platform.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download pay for and install photoshop.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>
>>> This is what your printer is for! LOL![/color]
>>
>> No, again, Mr Dim Witted, *some* printers can fax but professionals
>> (not you) use a fax modem or a fax machine.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> You have no clue what a multi-function printer is for. Typical for a
> poor bastard who can't even afford to pay attention. LOL![/color]

I own one and know exactly what it's for and faxing isn't one of them.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>
>>> BFD. So you can take a screenshot of Ubuntu doing NOTHING.[/color]
>>
>> You're an idiot.
>>[/color]
>
> No - You are the idiot. I proved it. LOL![/color]

You wish.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>
>>> Maybe. It will take you a long time to find the correct program to
>>> do this
>>> with Ubuntu.[/color]
>>
>> Yep, you're dim witted. I already told you that Ubuntu comes with PDF
>> Editor.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> I don't believe what you tell me. Neither does anyone else. Oops.[/color]

It doesn't change the facts what you think of me.

Game, set, match (again).

Alias[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>
>>> Sure you can open a text file and insert data.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a data base program.[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>
>>> You want to run Windows Live messenger? Run Windows. Ubuntu sucks.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install a IM program.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> IRC.
>>>
>>> Maybe.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install an IRC program.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>
>>> With an hour or two of tweaking you might be able to get a simple
>>> device to
>>> work for a minute or so.[/color]
>>
>> Unlike Windows 7, Ubuntu can do it out of the box with no need to
>> download and install bluetooth.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>>
>>>> and NOT much more!
>>>>
>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>> ANY REAL WORK[/color]
>>
>> After a clean install, I can get to work HOURS before you can.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

Alias wrote: > and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala,
Ubuntu 9.10 from > [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] and it's free and comes with
access to thousands > of free programs! > > What you can do with
Ubuntu: > > Email > Surf the web > Burn CDs. > Rip CDs. > Listen to
music. > Watch vidoes/DVDs. > Scan and print. > Spreadsheets. >
Presentations > Newsgroups. > HTML editing. > Games like Chess,
Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc. > Make videos. > Download photos
from a camera and organize them. > Translations. > Use a dictionary >
Learn how to touch type. > Edit images. > Send and receive a fax. >
Take screenshots. > Create .PDF files. > Create and use a data base. >
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including >
Windows Live Messenger. > IRC. > Bluetooth. > > and much more! > >
What you can't do with Ubuntu: > > Worry about: > WPA and WGA raising
their ugly heads, > DRM, > Viruses, > Root kits, > Spyware, > and >
Malware. > > The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Window