DanS wrote:[color=blue]
> Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4ad78064$1@news.x-privat.org:
>[color=green]
>> DanS wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4ad77490$1@news.x-privat.org:
>>>
>>>>> Windows7 is, in reality, Vista SP3.
>>>> Sorry dan-o but it isn't.
>>>> It is built on Vista's then new technology,
>>> Not any 'new' technology,...[/color]
>> For one thing, off loading video functions to the VC is very much
>> different technology than XP uses.[/color]
>
> It's a new implementation of existing technologies, but not necessarily
> new.[/color]

DuH!!!...that is what I just said dan-o.[color=blue]
>
> "WDDM provides the functionality required to render the desktop and
> applications using Desktop Window Manager, a compositing window manager
> running on top of Direct3D 9.0".
>
> ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model[/url])
>
> So what MS did was to re-write the window manager and the driver model to
> utilize DirectX instead of writing to the screen directly via CPU power.
>
> That's what all the popular 3D games have been doing for a very long time,
> already using DirectX, so it's not really new technology.[/color]

As I said, it is one of the real differences between XP & Vista. Get
over it dan-o, Vista is much better than XP and Windows 7 is not Vista SP3.
Live with it chum!

I doubt very strongly if there will ever be a Vista SP3

--
Peter

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"Frank" <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in message news:4ad78064$1@news.x-privat.org...[color=blue]
> DanS wrote:[color=green]
>> Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4ad77490$1@news.x-privat.org:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Windows7 is, in reality, Vista SP3.
>>> Sorry dan-o but it isn't.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> It is built on Vista's then new technology,[/color]
>>
>> Not any 'new' technology,...[/color]
>
> For one thing, off loading video functions to the VC is very much
> different technology than XP uses.
>
> mostly just changes on the security model, and[color=green]
>> driver model. All the 'new' technology was sh*t-canned from Longhorn beta
>> to get Vista out the door in 2007, for instance, WinFS.[/color]
>
> If you remember...(you do remember don't you dan-o?)...WinFS never
> worked as it was supposed to...it was actually a step backwards.[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> but it is different enough to be a new, separate OS from Microsoft.[/color]
>>
>> Yep.......as different as Windows98 and Windows98 SE.[/color]
>
> So what will you call Vista SP3 when it comes out?
>[/color]

Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4ad79bc5$1@news.x-privat.org:
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>> Windows7 is, in reality, Vista SP3.[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>> Sorry dan-o but it isn't.[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>> It is built on Vista's then new technology,[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Not any 'new' technology,...[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> For one thing, off loading video functions to the VC is very much[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> different technology than XP uses.[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> It's a new implementation of existing technologies, but not
>> necessarily new.[/color]
>
> DuH!!!...that is what I just said dan-o.[/color]

No, you said Windows7 was built on Vista's then new technology.

Which wasn't new technology.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> "WDDM provides the functionality required to render the desktop and
>> applications using Desktop Window Manager, a compositing window
>> manager running on top of Direct3D 9.0".
>>
>> ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model[/url])
>>
>> So what MS did was to re-write the window manager and the driver
>> model to utilize DirectX instead of writing to the screen directly
>> via CPU power.
>>
>> That's what all the popular 3D games have been doing for a very long
>> time, already using DirectX, so it's not really new technology.[/color]
>
> As I said, it is one of the real differences between XP & Vista. Get
> over it dan-o, Vista is much better than XP and Windows 7 is not Vista
> SP3. Live with it chum![/color]

A 'difference' is not new technology. That's all I was saying. Many
believe Windows7 is Vista SP3, just as Vista was the second coming of ME.

Live with it.

Now, I'm done with you in this thread. Off you go.........chum.

DanS wrote:[color=blue]
> Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4ad79bc5$1@news.x-privat.org:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>> Windows7 is, in reality, Vista SP3.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>> Sorry dan-o but it isn't.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>> It is built on Vista's then new technology,[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>> Not any 'new' technology,...[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> For one thing, off loading video functions to the VC is very much[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> different technology than XP uses.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> It's a new implementation of existing technologies, but not
>>> necessarily new.[/color]
>> DuH!!!...that is what I just said dan-o.[/color]
>
> No, you said Windows7 was built on Vista's then new technology.
>
> Which wasn't new technology.[/color]

Actually if you read the "white paper" you'll see that it really is a
"new technology implementation".[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> "WDDM provides the functionality required to render the desktop and
>>> applications using Desktop Window Manager, a compositing window
>>> manager running on top of Direct3D 9.0".
>>>
>>> ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model[/url])
>>>
>>> So what MS did was to re-write the window manager and the driver
>>> model to utilize DirectX instead of writing to the screen directly
>>> via CPU power.
>>>
>>> That's what all the popular 3D games have been doing for a very long
>>> time, already using DirectX, so it's not really new technology.[/color]
>> As I said, it is one of the real differences between XP & Vista. Get
>> over it dan-o, Vista is much better than XP and Windows 7 is not Vista
>> SP3. Live with it chum![/color]
>
> A 'difference' is not new technology. That's all I was saying. Many
> believe Windows7 is Vista SP3, just as Vista was the second coming of ME.[/color]

Only a few do...like you...certainly not "many".[color=blue]
>
> Live with it.[/color]

You live with it...you're the one who thinks that way...certainly not
the majority.[color=blue]
>
> Now, I'm done with you in this thread. Off you go.........chum.[/color]

Food is "done" and you're the one I'm finished with, *chump*.

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hb7u9j$q97$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Vadim Igorev wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I bet installing Ubuntu wouldn't be a problem ...[/color]
>>
>> I do not know. Anyway, "Karen Jayne Panzke" prohibited me from doing so.[/color]
>
> LOL!
>
> Alias[/color]

Bet you never heard that one before! Another user decided not to use that
INFERIOR Ubuntu piece of crap that NOBODY wants.

GREAT!

Spanky de Monkey, ESQ wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hb7u9j$q97$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Vadim Igorev wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bet installing Ubuntu wouldn't be a problem ...
>>>
>>> I do not know. Anyway, "Karen Jayne Panzke" prohibited me from doing so.[/color]
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> Bet you never heard that one before! Another user decided not to use
> that INFERIOR Ubuntu piece of crap that NOBODY wants.
>
> GREAT!
>
>[/color]

Don't understand sarcasm, eh? Everyone act surprised.

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hb9mj7$qsd$2@news.eternal-september.org...[color=green]
>> Spanky de Monkey, ESQ wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hb7u9j$q97$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Vadim Igorev wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I bet installing Ubuntu wouldn't be a problem ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not know. Anyway, "Karen Jayne Panzke" prohibited me from
>>>>> doing so.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> Bet you never heard that one before! Another user decided not to use
>>> that INFERIOR Ubuntu piece of crap that NOBODY wants.
>>>
>>> GREAT!
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Don't understand sarcasm, eh? Everyone act surprised.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> Didn't sound like sarcasm to me. Sounded like he really didn't want to
> install Ubuntu. Actually most don't want to install or use that
> INFERIOR Ubuntu.
>
>[/color]

We know you're a dim wit who never gets it.

Alias

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Spanky de Monkey, ESQ wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hb7u9j$q97$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Vadim Igorev wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I bet installing Ubuntu wouldn't be a problem ...
>>>>
>>>> I do not know. Anyway, "Karen Jayne Panzke" prohibited me from doing
>>>> so.
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>> Bet you never heard that one before! Another user decided not to use
>> that INFERIOR Ubuntu piece of crap that NOBODY wants.
>>
>> GREAT!
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Don't understand sarcasm, eh? Everyone act surprised.[/color]

Oh and like you know what a 'parody" is?...Hahahah!!!
STFU loser!

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Bill Yanaire wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hb9mj7$qsd$2@news.eternal-september.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Spanky de Monkey, ESQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hb7u9j$q97$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Vadim Igorev wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bet installing Ubuntu wouldn't be a problem ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not know. Anyway, "Karen Jayne Panzke" prohibited me from
>>>>>> doing so.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Bet you never heard that one before! Another user decided not to
>>>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu piece of crap that NOBODY wants.
>>>>
>>>> GREAT!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't understand sarcasm, eh? Everyone act surprised.
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>> Didn't sound like sarcasm to me. Sounded like he really didn't want
>> to install Ubuntu. Actually most don't want to install or use that
>> INFERIOR Ubuntu.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> We know you're a dim wit who never gets it.[/color]

Oh the irony, coming for our resident lying linturd troll!

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Bill Yanaire wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hba3vh$el4$2@news.eternal-september.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hb9mj7$qsd$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Spanky de Monkey, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hb7u9j$q97$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> Vadim Igorev wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I bet installing Ubuntu wouldn't be a problem ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not know. Anyway, "Karen Jayne Panzke" prohibited me from
>>>>>>>> doing so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bet you never heard that one before! Another user decided not to
>>>>>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu piece of crap that NOBODY wants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GREAT!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't understand sarcasm, eh? Everyone act surprised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Didn't sound like sarcasm to me. Sounded like he really didn't want
>>>> to install Ubuntu. Actually most don't want to install or use that
>>>> INFERIOR Ubuntu.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> We know you're a dim wit who never gets it.
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>> Sorry *chum* but WE don't speak for everyone, now do WE? It looks
>> like you don't get it. You only speak for YOU and not EVERYONE else.
>> ****, I can't believe I have to explain even the basics to someone
>> your age!
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Your insults don't prove you understood but only prove, once again, that
> you didn't.
>[/color]
"Insults"? Your presence in this ng is a daily insult to everyone in here.

On Oct 15, 2:14*pm, Frank <f...@amk.cmo> wrote:[color=blue]
> DanS wrote:[color=green]
> > Vadim Igorev <jhR...@SMkdCb.edu> wrote innews:hb7p2h$3hp$1@aioe.org:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Gordon wrote:[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> I'm sorry, but if you are only now complaining about Vista performance
> >>> after OVER TWO YEARS then no-one is going to listen to you...
> >> I'm complaining now, because I feel deja-vu all over again - all those
> >> shills online badmouthing Vista 1 and preaching Vista 7, as they were
> >> badmouthing XP 2 years ago in 2007 and pushing me and my wife to
> >> "upgrade" to Vista. What I'm trying to say is: "Fool me once, thank you
> >> very much". Vista is actually usable now after all those service packs
> >> (wifi on the laptop still drops regularly, though). Would I have my
> >> current knowledge of life, I'd happily continued to use XP up to 2010 at
> >> least (that is, until SP1 for Vista 7 is released)[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> > Windows7 is, in reality, Vista SP3.[/color]
>
> Sorry dan-o but it isn't. It is built on Vista's then new technology,
> but it is different enough to be a new, separate OS from Microsoft.
> No SP could ever change Vista into Windows 7, therefore Windows 7 is not
> Vista SP3.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -[/color]

WINDOWS 7 SHOULD BE WINDOWS VISTA SERVICE PACK 3, DAN IS CORRECT!

You, guys, screwed up with your ad hominem a very interesting discussion
about difference between Vista SP2 and Windows 7, and whether the costly
upgrade (vs free SP3) is justified.

You, guys, screwed up with your ad hominem a very interesting discussion
about differences between Vista SP2 and Windows 7, and whether the
costly upgrade (vs free SP3) is justified.

Vladimir Petrov wrote:[color=blue]
> You, guys, screwed up with your ad hominem a very interesting discussion
> about difference between Vista SP2 and Windows 7, and whether the costly
> upgrade (vs free SP3) is justified.[/color]

Get a life!

you, guy, make no sense.


--
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"Vladimir Petrov" <vpetrov@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4ADB52B7.5080802@invalid.invalid...[color=blue]
> You, guys, screwed up with your ad hominem a very interesting discussion
> about difference between Vista SP2 and Windows 7, and whether the costly
> upgrade (vs free SP3) is justified.[/color]