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Old 10-11-2009, 12:00 PM
Joe McElvenney
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XP Mode under Windows 7

Hi,

Has anyone here had experience of the XP mode in Windows 7 Pro as I
particularly want to run Adobe Acrobat 6 under it. I'm currently running
Vista Home Premium but thinking of changing so as to be able to do this.
I've looked but haven't yet seen this application on a W7 compatibility
list.


TIA - Joe
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:30 PM
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Re: XP Mode under Windows 7

XP Mode is XP Pro - Win 7 compatibility not involved with applications
being considered for installation on XP Mode.
Adobe will "run" fine.

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Old 10-11-2009, 12:30 PM
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Re: XP Mode under Windows 7


"Joe McElvenney" <ximac@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:uj94d5h4q76g7q2ske404kame8vsno8oao@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone here had experience of the XP mode in Windows 7 Pro as I
> particularly want to run Adobe Acrobat 6 under it. I'm currently running
> Vista Home Premium but thinking of changing so as to be able to do this.
> I've looked but haven't yet seen this application on a W7 compatibility
> list.
>
>
> TIA - Joe[/color]


Before you do anything else you must check to see if your processor
has Virtualization Technology. If it hasn't you're wasting your time.
Check it out with this tool:
[url]http://www.grc.com/securable.htm[/url]

If your chip is ok then you need to download these two items
from Microsoft:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx[/url]

Here's a list of Intel chips with VT/without VT (page 2)
[url]http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=946&tag=mncol;txt[/url]


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Old 10-11-2009, 05:20 PM
Joe McElvenney
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Re: XP Mode under Windows 7

Al & Dave,

Thank you both for your comments and advice. After looking at the site
you mention, it turns out that the Intel E4300 dual-core processor won't
handle VT and neither, as it happens, will the BIOS on my MB. It seems I
will have to be content with W7 Home Premium.


Cheers - Joe

Sheffield, UK
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:40 AM
Al
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Re: XP Mode under Windows 7

Joe - If you have not done so - I suggest you download the Windows Virtual
PC utility (Note - ,not Virtual PC 2004/2007) and see if it will install.
I have a laptop and desktop, both without any specific reference to virtual
technology in the BIOS. Laptop has an Intel dual core for which I was
unable to confirm it's VT ability - had same problem with the desktop with
an AMD processor (turns out that all recent AMDs are VT capable) - and no
BIOS info.

So with nothing to lose I downloaded Windows Virtual PC which installed on
both computers - now running Win 7, XP Mode and Vista on both.

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Old 10-12-2009, 03:30 PM
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Re: XP Mode under Windows 7

Al wrote:
[color=blue]
> Joe - If you have not done so - I suggest you download the Windows Virtual
> PC utility (Note - ,not Virtual PC 2004/2007) and see if it will install.
> I have a laptop and desktop, both without any specific reference to
> virtual
> technology in the BIOS. Laptop has an Intel dual core for which I was
> unable to confirm it's VT ability - had same problem with the desktop with
> an AMD processor (turns out that all recent AMDs are VT capable) - and no
> BIOS info.
>
> So with nothing to lose I downloaded Windows Virtual PC which installed on
> both computers - now running Win 7, XP Mode and Vista on both.[/color]

You are missing what "XP Mode" really means. XP Mode in Windows 7 is a
specialized version of Microsoft Virtual PC *plus* XP Pro. This means you
don't need to purchase a full retail version of XP Pro, and that's a great
savings. You can only run XP Mode in Windows 7 on a computer which has the
correct hardware.

This doesn't mean you can't run XP in a virtual machine on a Windows 7
machine which doesn't have the hardware to support XP Mode. You can run any
virtualization software in Windows 7 - VMware Workstation, Sun's VirtualBox,
or Microsoft Virtual PC. You must have a legal version of XP (or whatever
other MS operating system you might want to run) which is not installed
anywhere else to run that OS in a virtual machine created in one of the
virtualization programs.

Malke
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:20 PM
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Re: XP Mode under Windows 7

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:26:06 -0700, Malke wrote:
[color=blue]
> Al wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Joe - If you have not done so - I suggest you download the Windows Virtual
>> PC utility (Note - ,not Virtual PC 2004/2007) and see if it will install.
>> I have a laptop and desktop, both without any specific reference to
>> virtual
>> technology in the BIOS. Laptop has an Intel dual core for which I was
>> unable to confirm it's VT ability - had same problem with the desktop with
>> an AMD processor (turns out that all recent AMDs are VT capable) - and no
>> BIOS info.
>>
>> So with nothing to lose I downloaded Windows Virtual PC which installed on
>> both computers - now running Win 7, XP Mode and Vista on both.[/color]
>
> You are missing what "XP Mode" really means. XP Mode in Windows 7 is a
> specialized version of Microsoft Virtual PC *plus* XP Pro. This means you
> don't need to purchase a full retail version of XP Pro, and that's a great
> savings. You can only run XP Mode in Windows 7 on a computer which has the
> correct hardware.
>
> This doesn't mean you can't run XP in a virtual machine on a Windows 7
> machine which doesn't have the hardware to support XP Mode. You can run any
> virtualization software in Windows 7 - VMware Workstation, Sun's VirtualBox,
> or Microsoft Virtual PC. You must have a legal version of XP (or whatever
> other MS operating system you might want to run) which is not installed
> anywhere else to run that OS in a virtual machine created in one of the
> virtualization programs.
>
> Malke[/color]

I'd like to add: I have read that XP Mode is not available for the Home
editions of 7.

I'd like to be wrong on that, but i fear I'm not.

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Old 10-13-2009, 05:20 AM
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Re: XP Mode under Windows 7

Gene E. Bloch wrote:

[color=blue]
> I'd like to add: I have read that XP Mode is not available for the Home
> editions of 7.
>
> I'd like to be wrong on that, but i fear I'm not.
>[/color]

I don't think you're wrong. XP Mode is considered to be a corporate feature
and is meant to "help" businesses which use software that only runs on XP to
migrate to Win7.

Malke
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[url]http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ[/url]

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Old 10-13-2009, 11:20 AM
Gene E. Bloch
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Re: XP Mode under Windows 7

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:15:55 -0700, Malke wrote:
[color=blue]
> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> I'd like to add: I have read that XP Mode is not available for the Home
>> editions of 7.
>>
>> I'd like to be wrong on that, but i fear I'm not.
>>[/color]
>
> I don't think you're wrong. XP Mode is considered to be a corporate feature
> and is meant to "help" businesses which use software that only runs on XP to
> migrate to Win7.
>
> Malke[/color]

Tough on us civilians :-)

I am running a virtual machine with XP home just to run a couple of apps
(related to home entertainment remote controls) that won't run under Vista,
with no hope of new drivers from the mfrs.

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