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Old 10-11-2009, 03:10 AM
Richard G. Harper
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Re: New Laptop Windows 7

That will depend on the PC manufacturer. When Vista first came out some
shipped upgrade disc sets that upgraded in place, others shipped destructive
"factory-restore" type disc sets that clean-installed Windows.

"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400******.com> wrote in message
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> "Ian D" <taurus@nowhereatall.com> wrote in message
> news:OoqASGVSKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>[/color]
>[color=green]
>> The disadvantage of the clean Win 7 install is that you
>> would have to make a Vista recovery disk first, because
>> if you ever had to reinstall Win 7, you would have to
>> restore the Vista installation in order to redo the upgrade.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> I have a question along that line then. I recently bought a new Studio
> XPS, that offered free W7. I signed up, and they will offer me a W7 disc
> free. Now the laptop has asked me to make a restore disc but when I tried
> it would not work with some blank DVD+RW discs so I have not done so. I
> was going to buy a blank Blu-Ray and try that since it has a Blu-ray
> drive. Now the HD has a partition with the OS on it, and it came with a
> restore disc with the same. When the W-7 disc gets here if I install it,
> will it wipe out the partition set aside for the Vista Premium on there?[/color]

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Old 10-11-2009, 08:40 AM
Alex Clayton
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Re: New Laptop Windows 7

"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper******.com> wrote in message
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> That will depend on the PC manufacturer. When Vista first came out some
> shipped upgrade disc sets that upgraded in place, others shipped
> destructive "factory-restore" type disc sets that clean-installed Windows.
>[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> I have a question along that line then. I recently bought a new Studio
>> XPS, that offered free W7. I signed up, and they will offer me a W7 disc
>> free. Now the laptop has asked me to make a restore disc but when I tried
>> it would not work with some blank DVD+RW discs so I have not done so. I
>> was going to buy a blank Blu-Ray and try that since it has a Blu-ray
>> drive. Now the HD has a partition with the OS on it, and it came with a
>> restore disc with the same. When the W-7 disc gets here if I install it,
>> will it wipe out the partition set aside for the Vista Premium on there?[/color]
>[/color]

Ok I'll wait till it gets here, and if it does not say I will try giving
them a call, although I hate doing that. It always takes forever to get
someone you can actually understand.

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Old 10-12-2009, 05:00 PM
Gene E. Bloch
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Re: New Laptop Windows 7

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:21:41 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:
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> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
> news:zlr8kkby1g3.w5ojuhdfijc1$.dlg@40tude.net...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:24:50 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:6xwr6nvuu7md.18ktgvd8qrvzi.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:29:56 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Ian D" <taurus@nowhereatall.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OoqASGVSKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The disadvantage of the clean Win 7 install is that you
>>>>>> would have to make a Vista recovery disk first, because
>>>>>> if you ever had to reinstall Win 7, you would have to
>>>>>> restore the Vista installation in order to redo the upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question along that line then. I recently bought a new Studio
>>>>> XPS,
>>>>> that offered free W7. I signed up, and they will offer me a W7 disc
>>>>> free.
>>>>> Now the laptop has asked me to make a restore disc but when I tried it
>>>>> would
>>>>> not work with some blank DVD+RW discs so I have not done so. I was
>>>>> going
>>>>> to
>>>>> buy a blank Blu-Ray and try that since it has a Blu-ray drive. Now the
>>>>> HD
>>>>> has a partition with the OS on it, and it came with a restore disc with
>>>>> the
>>>>> same. When the W-7 disc gets here if I install it, will it wipe out the
>>>>> partition set aside for the Vista Premium on there?
>>>>
>>>> I can't answer your questions, but I do suggest using DVD+R or -R, not
>>>> RW.
>>>> And make sure it will work with a Blu-Ray disc - both for writing and
>>>> for
>>>> booting - before relying on that.
>>>>
>>>> Also, sometimes DVD+-RWs might require formatting before being written.
>>>> It
>>>> depends on the program doing the writing.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok the next time I get to Wally I will pick up a few DVD R's. and try
>>> them.
>>> The package of RW's I have was from when I bought this HP. It also has a
>>> partition, but came with no restore disc said to make your own, which is
>>> what I did used 3 of the RW's and the rest of the package has been
>>> gathering
>>> dust for a year. I did try formatting one in he new laptop to see, and it
>>> still kept saying I was trying to use a DVD and needed a blank DVD or
>>> Blu-Ray so I just gave up for now. The blank BR discs are quite a bit
>>> more
>>> expensive , but it looks like it would all fit on one disc.[/color]
>>
>> Some computers, including HP, IIRC, only let you make the restore disk set
>> once. This seems Draconian and unnecessary to me :-(
>>
>> Anyway, that is possibly your problem.
>>
>> I reiterate: if you want to go the BR route, make sure the restore disk
>> program will let you make a BR disk, and make sure it can boot from that
>> restore disk.
>>
>> OTOH, the message you cite makes it sound like:
>> 1. It can do a BR disk
>> 2. An RW disk needs to be formatted.
>>
>> There are several choices for formatting optical disks, and you have to
>> pick the right one, but I can't help you there - I never use RWs any more.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
>>
>>[/color]
> It's been over a year now, but I am pretty sure this HP did say I could only
> do the recovery disks one time.
> As to the new Dell, it has a BR player and was saying to use either a
> blank one or DVD something, (can't remember now what it was saying), but how
> do I find out that it can boot from the disk I make? If there is any
> question I will just use some R's. They are cheap so it's no big deal if it
> takes a few of them to do it. That's why I was not worried about the blank
> +RW's. I have no use for them, but when I bought them the only package they
> had was a 15 pack or something, so the rest have just sat on a shelf. If
> it's safer I will just see if they have like a 5 pack of the +R's at the
> store. If not I'm sure I can just order some. Since the Dell at least did
> come with a disk I am not feeling I need to get it done right away on it
> like I did when I bought this one that came without anything but the
> partition.
> Thanks. Most of this computer stuff is far beyond me. I learned only what I
> needed and tend to never bother to learn all the ins and outs. <G>[/color]

I did forget in my replies that you weren't the OP, so there's a bit of
confusion.

The way you find out if a disk will boot is to try to boot from it. Or read
the computer's docs, on the computer on or the manufacturer's site..
Presumably, if you can't boot from a BR, the Dell won't let you make one -
we can hope...

I will reiterate this: I don't recommend using RWs for this purpose,
because of the formatting confusion. I'll add this, too - I have had
problems with the dependability of RWs, where they lose data. Also, it is
possible to rewrite an RW before you remember that you didn't want to
rewrite *that* one :-)

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