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| LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP I just bought a new Samsung LCD monitor with native resolution of 1920x1080 pixels that provides nice sharp display on my older XP desktop, but a pretty mediocre one as an external monitor on my newer HP notebook. Both systems use nVidia graphics cards, though not identical models. The XP uses GeForce4 MX 4000 card and the Vista notebook came with GeForce Go 6150 (UMA) chip. I wonder if Vista may have something to do with the poorer display or the different nVidia chip alone. Frankly, I assumed the Go 6150 was a more capable chip and if anything, I expected even a better performance from it. In both cases the display res is set to 1920x1080 at 60 Hz, but the text display from the notebook looks pretty lousy. |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP Install the ClearType Tuner for Windows Vista: [url]http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearType/tuner/tune.aspx[/url] JP wrote:[color=blue] > I just bought a new Samsung LCD monitor with native resolution of > 1920x1080 pixels that provides nice sharp display on my older XP > desktop, but a pretty mediocre one as an external monitor on my newer HP > notebook. Both systems use nVidia graphics cards, though not identical > models. The XP uses GeForce4 MX 4000 card and the Vista notebook came > with GeForce Go 6150 (UMA) chip. I wonder if Vista may have something to > do with the poorer display or the different nVidia chip alone. Frankly, > I assumed the Go 6150 was a more capable chip and if anything, I > expected even a better performance from it. In both cases the display > res is set to 1920x1080 at 60 Hz, but the text display from the notebook > looks pretty lousy.[/color] |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP "STAN STARINSKI" <NoSpam@NoSpam.org> wrote in message news:OIu4hNHRKHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue] > Sound is also worse in Vista, > they said many things fixed in Windows7, so I am getting Win7[/color] How on earth can you afford Windows 7? |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP LCD panels look bad unless they are run at their native resolution/refresh rate. Check the settings on your notebook when the external monitor is connected: the notebook video system may not be able to drive the monitor properly. |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP I have 2 clients: a) Hardware design for a Nanotechnology Instrument startup. I "own" entire project, plus all parts sourcing, taxes, talking to a Scientist at a certain University in UK, etc. Project management on top of engineering. I will not name any people or University, but one thing I will state - I am in the USA. b) Firmware Development for a power/utility startup. You're right in a sense I get sh** instead of market pay, so sometimes I invest equally sh*** efforts until business grows and hires me at a regular W2 level. I've lost a normal fulltime job a year ago & now doping Consulting. But you see I am not sitting on a couch and matter of fact MANY Engineers work as Consultants on Form1099. Hope this answers your question. I am tight with money but I am not what you imagine. Also I pay no rent or food - merged with parents. Do NOT try to admonish me, it is a reality of Recession. Many adult Americans moved back to parents or pull resources together. It wasn't us who shipped our jobs to China. But the bottom line I am employed, except on Form1099, not W2. It would be fine to remain on 1099 when business grows to pre-Recession level and my pay is increased. Right now I am bearin g the brunt of Recession, and if you're not - I am happy for you, but no less than 9% and in reality 35% of employable adults are now down. |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP He is right, you MUS Tset LCD to its native resolution, because unlike old CRT tubes, LCD's pixels are more "digital" in behavior. Electron beam in a CRT also lights up discrete pixels allowed by the "mask, but still LCD gets really pixelated at non-native resolution. Maybe you set it too high or too low.... Other than that, I can't wait for Windows7. |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP "nomore" <fac_187********.com> wrote:[color=blue] > LCD panels look bad unless they are run at their native > resolution/refresh rate. > Check the settings on your notebook when the external monitor is > connected: the notebook video system may not be able to drive the > monitor properly.[/color] Both video chips are set to the monitor's native res and vertical freq: 1920x1080 and 60 Hz. |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP "JP" <wiseguyxxxx********.com> wrote in message news:uhBta5FRKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue] > I just bought a new Samsung LCD monitor with native resolution of > 1920x1080 pixels that provides nice sharp display on my older XP desktop, > but a pretty mediocre one as an external monitor on my newer HP notebook. > Both systems use nVidia graphics cards, though not identical models. The > XP uses GeForce4 MX 4000 card and the Vista notebook came with GeForce Go > 6150 (UMA) chip. I wonder if Vista may have something to do with the > poorer display or the different nVidia chip alone. Frankly, I assumed the > Go 6150 was a more capable chip and if anything, I expected even a better > performance from it. In both cases the display res is set to 1920x1080 at > 60 Hz, but the text display from the notebook looks pretty lousy.[/color] UMA is Unified Memory Architecture, just another name for shared memory. It's good for laptops, since it uses fewer components and therefore requires less power to run for a longer battery life. The downside is system performance suffers since CPU and video processor have to compete for access to the same pool of memory (hence the name shared memory). I don't know what you mean by looks worse, since I can't see what you're talking about. |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP - Solved "Tae Song" <tae_song********.com> wrote:[color=blue] > I don't know what you mean by looks worse, since I can't see what > you're talking about.[/color] Well, I solved my problem with some experimentation of various custom resolution options. Apparently just selecting the 1920x1080 res and 60 Hz was not enough because the graphics chip's default timing standard at those specs was different from the one used by the monitor. Fortunately, the GeForce software allows custom finetuning of several display parameters, among them the timing standard and H/V sync polarity. It turned out that by setting the timing standard to "CVT reduced blank" and the sync polarity to +/- I finally got the same clear display from the Vista laptop as from my XP desktop. It also made the bottom task bar, that previously fell below the bottom visible area to be visible again. So the issue was not really something specific to Vista per se, but to the nVidia chip in the laptop. |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP - Solved On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:58:29 -0700, "JP" <wiseguyxxxx********.com> wrote: [color=blue] >"Tae Song" <tae_song********.com> wrote:[color=green] >> I don't know what you mean by looks worse, since I can't see what >> you're talking about.[/color] > >Well, I solved my problem with some experimentation of various custom >resolution options. Apparently just selecting the 1920x1080 res and 60 >Hz was not enough because the graphics chip's default timing standard at >those specs was different from the one used by the monitor. Fortunately, >the GeForce software allows custom finetuning of several display >parameters, among them the timing standard and H/V sync polarity. It >turned out that by setting the timing standard to "CVT reduced blank" >and the sync polarity to +/- I finally got the same clear display from >the Vista laptop as from my XP desktop. It also made the bottom task >bar, that previously fell below the bottom visible area to be visible >again. So the issue was not really something specific to Vista per se, >but to the nVidia chip in the laptop.[/color] is that something that just came to you in a dream or did you call tech support or how did you manage to come up with that solution?? |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP - Solved "Ashton Crusher" <demi@moore.net> wrote in message news:0alvc5lfbi75srh49ck9pvd0vorvolvk5k@4ax.com...[color=blue] > is that something that just came to you in a dream or did you call > tech support or how did you manage to come up with that solution??[/color] There was an advanced options menu with a bunch of options such as horizontal and vertical front porch and sync width that I didn't dare to experiment with before because I didn't understand what they meant and what value was correct. Fortunately the timing standard option came with a menu of several distinct standards, last of them was the one that finally worked and pretty much set the other options right as well. I did not call tech support at all as I consider that most of the time a frustrating experience. |
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| Re: LCD monitor worse with Vista than XP On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:24:38 -0700, "JP" <wiseguyxxxx********.com> wrote: [color=blue] >"nomore" <fac_187********.com> wrote:[color=green] >> LCD panels look bad unless they are run at their native >> resolution/refresh rate. >> Check the settings on your notebook when the external monitor is >> connected: the notebook video system may not be able to drive the >> monitor properly.[/color] > > Both video chips are set to the monitor's native res and vertical >freq: 1920x1080 and 60 Hz.[/color] AND using a DVI cable instead of VGA?? |
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