I don't use a wireless keyboard or mouse. I'm about to try Greg's
suggestions and will report back.

On Feb 3, 5:23 pm, "John Barnes" <jbar...@email.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> Several posters reported that wireless keyboards/mice have caused the
> systems to not go to sleep. If yours is wireless, unplug it and see if the
> problem goes away.
>
> "Ryetronics" <ryetron...******.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170536521.807102.169890@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>[color=green]
> >I downloaded the Driver/CCC package from the ATI website. It was the
> > only option available for me. I'm running an x800Pro if that makes
> > any difference.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > On Feb 3, 7:28 am, "Gary" <z...@nospam.com> wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> On 2-Feb-2007, "Ryetronics" <ryetron...******.com> wrote:[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > No I basically have a clean install of Vista with AVG Free, Office
> >> > 2007, and ATI Catalyst Control Center installed at this point.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > And for POS I was thinking Piece of sh*t...[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > On Feb 2, 11:36 am, "Edwin Smith" <smithgold...@aol.com> wrote:[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> You said you are using the ATI drivers that can with Vista and you said
> >> you
> >> installed the Catalyst Control Center. How did you do this because when I
> >> went to ATI's web site there was no option to download the Vista CCC by
> >> itself only the WinXP has that option. Are you using WinXP CCC with
> >> Vista? I
> >> would like to use the 7.1 Vista drivers but people are having some
> >> problems
> >> with them.[/color][/color][/color]

Greg-

I tried this approach, but when I input the powercfg commands, nothing
happens. It could have something to do with the fact that I'm on a
desktop and not a laptop. Oh well. I hope a solution pops up sooner
or later.

On Feb 2, 3:29 pm, "Greg McGuinness" <greg...@comcast.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> I was able to get my Dell Inspiron 9300 to Hibernate (not standby/sleep)
> which is better but not perfect or how it worked in XP. Here's is what I
> did. <disclaimer> it's not for the faint of heart...it worked for me may not
> for you </disclaimer>
>
> 1. hit start, type in 'command prompt', right click 'command prompt' from
> the list, select run as Administrator.
> 2. type in powercfg.exe -? - this shows a bunch of commands to control the
> power management from command line.
> 3. type powercfg.exe -A this shows what your computer can suppport. I
> got the following:
>
> C:\Windows\system32>powercfg.exe -A
> The following sleep states are available on this system:
> Standby ( S3 )
> Hibernate Hybrid Sleep
>
> The following sleep states are not available on this system:
> Standby (S1)
> The system firmware does not support this standby state.
> Standby (S2)
> The system firmware does not support this standby state.
>
> 4. BINGO. according to Vista, I can't use S1 or S2 standby - S3 is deep
> sleep. The list is:
> S1_supported List devices supporting light sleep.
> S2_supported List devices supporting deeper sleep.
> S3_supported List devices supporting deepest sleep.
> S4_supported List devices supporting hibernation.
>
> 5. type powercfg.exe -H ON this turns on S3 sleep for me. It actually
> hibernates the laptop.
>
> That's it. You're mileage may vary. If I get any more info on getting S1
> or S2 to work, I'll post it here.[/color]

BUMP

Anyone else having this problem on a desktop and NOT using a wireless
keyboard/mouse???


On Feb 3, 8:20 pm, "Ryetronics" <ryetron...******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Greg-
>
> I tried this approach, but when I input the powercfg commands, nothing
> happens. It could have something to do with the fact that I'm on a
> desktop and not a laptop. Oh well. I hope a solution pops up sooner
> or later.
>
> On Feb 2, 3:29 pm, "Greg McGuinness" <greg...@comcast.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I was able to get my Dell Inspiron 9300 to Hibernate (not standby/sleep)
> > which is better but not perfect or how it worked in XP. Here's is what I
> > did. <disclaimer> it's not for the faint of heart...it worked for me may not
> > for you </disclaimer>[/color]
>[color=green]
> > 1. hit start, type in 'command prompt', right click 'command prompt' from
> > the list, select run as Administrator.
> > 2. type in powercfg.exe -? - this shows a bunch of commands to control the
> > power management from command line.
> > 3. type powercfg.exe -A this shows what your computer can suppport. I
> > got the following:[/color]
>[color=green]
> > C:\Windows\system32>powercfg.exe -A
> > The following sleep states are available on this system:
> > Standby ( S3 )
> > Hibernate Hybrid Sleep[/color]
>[color=green]
> > The following sleep states are not available on this system:
> > Standby (S1)
> > The system firmware does not support this standby state.
> > Standby (S2)
> > The system firmware does not support this standby state.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > 4. BINGO. according to Vista, I can't use S1 or S2 standby - S3 is deep
> > sleep. The list is:
> > S1_supported List devices supporting light sleep.
> > S2_supported List devices supporting deeper sleep.
> > S3_supported List devices supporting deepest sleep.
> > S4_supported List devices supporting hibernation.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > 5. type powercfg.exe -H ON this turns on S3 sleep for me. It actually
> > hibernates the laptop.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > That's it. You're mileage may vary. If I get any more info on getting S1
> > or S2 to work, I'll post it here.[/color][/color]

I hope this thread hasn't completely died.

I was able to get my desktop to hibernate last night by simply turning
on hibernation with a 90 minute delay. But still no hybrid sleep,
which is what I really want. Any updates?

On Feb 6, 9:28 am, "Ryetronics" <ryetron...******.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> BUMP
>
> Anyone else having this problem on a desktop and NOT using a wireless
> keyboard/mouse???
>
> On Feb 3, 8:20 pm, "Ryetronics" <ryetron...******.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Greg-[/color]
>[color=green]
> > I tried this approach, but when I input the powercfg commands, nothing
> > happens. It could have something to do with the fact that I'm on a
> > desktop and not a laptop. Oh well. I hope a solution pops up sooner
> > or later.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > On Feb 2, 3:29 pm, "Greg McGuinness" <greg...@comcast.net> wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > I was able to get my Dell Inspiron 9300 to Hibernate (not standby/sleep)
> > > which is better but not perfect or how it worked in XP. Here's is what I
> > > did. <disclaimer> it's not for the faint of heart...it worked for me may not
> > > for you </disclaimer>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > 1. hit start, type in 'command prompt', right click 'command prompt' from
> > > the list, select run as Administrator.
> > > 2. type in powercfg.exe -? - this shows a bunch of commands to control the
> > > power management from command line.
> > > 3. type powercfg.exe -A this shows what your computer can suppport. I
> > > got the following:[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > C:\Windows\system32>powercfg.exe -A
> > > The following sleep states are available on this system:
> > > Standby ( S3 )
> > > Hibernate Hybrid Sleep[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > The following sleep states are not available on this system:
> > > Standby (S1)
> > > The system firmware does not support this standby state.
> > > Standby (S2)
> > > The system firmware does not support this standby state.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > 4. BINGO. according to Vista, I can't use S1 or S2 standby - S3 is deep
> > > sleep. The list is:
> > > S1_supported List devices supporting light sleep.
> > > S2_supported List devices supporting deeper sleep.
> > > S3_supported List devices supporting deepest sleep.
> > > S4_supported List devices supporting hibernation.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > 5. type powercfg.exe -H ON this turns on S3 sleep for me. It actually
> > > hibernates the laptop.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > That's it. You're mileage may vary. If I get any more info on getting S1
> > > or S2 to work, I'll post it here.[/color][/color][/color]

I have the solution FOR LAPTOPS. If you are going to Start > Sleep with the lid OPEN it will go to sleep for a couple seconds and wake up. It thinks since you have the lid open you want it to come out of sleep. Simply go to Start > Sleep then after you click that, close the lid quickly.


I don't know what to say for desktops.

Short answer ...YES. I have a Dell XPS 400 that I upgraded to Vista Ultimate
(more than a few headaches just doing that...) First off, I am using a MS
wireless keyboard and mouse. Immediately after the upgrade I was able to
enter sleep mode by tapping the "sleep" key on the keyboard. System went
into sleep mode quicker than in XP. Sometime last week sleep mode stopped
functioning. I've read the MS posting about the wireless keyboard issue, but
that doesn't seem to address my experience, since for about 3 weeks sleep
mode worked well. I've tried wading through the automatic updates that have
occured in the last 10 days or so to see if there is any obvious link to the
problem. Nothing yet.



"Ryetronics" wrote:
[color=blue]
> BUMP
>
> Anyone else having this problem on a desktop and NOT using a wireless
> keyboard/mouse???
>
>
> On Feb 3, 8:20 pm, "Ryetronics" <ryetron...******.com> wrote:[color=green]
> > Greg-
> >
> > I tried this approach, but when I input the powercfg commands, nothing
> > happens. It could have something to do with the fact that I'm on a
> > desktop and not a laptop. Oh well. I hope a solution pops up sooner
> > or later.
> >
> > On Feb 2, 3:29 pm, "Greg McGuinness" <greg...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > I was able to get my Dell Inspiron 9300 to Hibernate (not standby/sleep)
> > > which is better but not perfect or how it worked in XP. Here's is what I
> > > did. <disclaimer> it's not for the faint of heart...it worked for me may not
> > > for you </disclaimer>[/color]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > 1. hit start, type in 'command prompt', right click 'command prompt' from
> > > the list, select run as Administrator.
> > > 2. type in powercfg.exe -? - this shows a bunch of commands to control the
> > > power management from command line.
> > > 3. type powercfg.exe -A this shows what your computer can suppport. I
> > > got the following:[/color]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > C:\Windows\system32>powercfg.exe -A
> > > The following sleep states are available on this system:
> > > Standby ( S3 )
> > > Hibernate Hybrid Sleep[/color]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > The following sleep states are not available on this system:
> > > Standby (S1)
> > > The system firmware does not support this standby state.
> > > Standby (S2)
> > > The system firmware does not support this standby state.[/color]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > 4. BINGO. according to Vista, I can't use S1 or S2 standby - S3 is deep
> > > sleep. The list is:
> > > S1_supported List devices supporting light sleep.
> > > S2_supported List devices supporting deeper sleep.
> > > S3_supported List devices supporting deepest sleep.
> > > S4_supported List devices supporting hibernation.[/color]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > 5. type powercfg.exe -H ON this turns on S3 sleep for me. It actually
> > > hibernates the laptop.[/color]
> >[color=darkred]
> > > That's it. You're mileage may vary. If I get any more info on getting S1
> > > or S2 to work, I'll post it here.[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[QUOTE=Edwin Smith;195940]Do you have any version of Intuit software installed? Quicken, or
Quickbooks? There is a POS update service that runs and keeps the PC from
entering sleep mode. DO a search on the microsoft KB and you'll find it.
>[/color][/QUOTE]

I am having a problem with Vista going to sleep as well. When I manually put the computer to sleep it works fine, but it won't go to sleep automatically. I am using QuickBooks and Quicken (both version 2007), and I have searched the Microsoft KB as well as the Intuit KB, but I can't find the information you're refering to. Could someone point me to a solution?

Thanks,
Yogi

This was getting on my nerves. but I saw the reference to POWERCFG and had a play with that. My desktop PC with RC1 Vista was not sleeping (it would spin the disks down, blank the screen then wake up and I'd be back at the "login" screen - type in password and you're back where you started...)

Seems my mouse was the problem (it's a USB Optical MS wheel mouse - not wireless)

I typed:

D:\Users\Derek>POWERCFG -DEVICEQUERY wake_armed
Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical

D:\Users\Derek>POWERCFG -DEVICEDISABLEWAKE "Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical"

D:\Users\Derek>POWERCFG -DEVICEQUERY wake_armed
Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard

And now I can sleep. I had to open a command window as administrator to disable the mouse as a wake device.

This may work for other sleepless users.

Derek

FWIW

The thing I had changed (I think) is my mouse used to go through a KVM switch (so it was probably being seen a a PS/2 mouse). I removed the KVM switch and had sleep problems ever since.

Derek

[QUOTE=Ryetronics;195967]No I basically have a clean install of Vista with AVG Free, Office
2007, and ATI Catalyst Control Center installed at this point.

And for POS I was thinking Piece of sh*t...

On Feb 2, 11:36 am, "Edwin Smith" <smithgold...@aol.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Do you have any version of Intuit software installed? Quicken, or
> Quickbooks? There is a POS update service that runs and keeps the PC from
> entering sleep mode. DO a search on the microsoft KB and you'll find it.
>
> "Ryetronics" <ryetron...******.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170435077.036737.259450@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>[color=green]
> >I have a fresh install of Vista, and whenever I try to enter Sleep
> > mode, the monitor turns off, the disks begin to shut down, and right
> > when everything "clicks" off, the fans and discs begin to spin and I'm
> > right back into Windows. Does anyone know what is causing this?
> > Perhaps the video card? (I'm using an ATI x800 Pro with new Vista
> > drivers)[/color]
>[color=green]
> > I already went into Power Options and changed the Multimedia settings,
> > but that had no effect.[/color][/color][/QUOTE]

I Have the same problem my pc wakes up at 8am every morning I have the same programs installed as above but think i found the cause avg is set to automatically scan at 8am so think it might be waking the pc, so i have changed it to see what happens will let you know tomorrow hope it helps you

I had that same problem on my desktop (I have a wireless keyboard and
mouse but they weren't the problem)

Here's what I did

1. Open Power Settings, choose the plan you have selected
2. Click change plan settings
3. Click change advanced power setting
4. Enable the setting under USB settings->USB slective suspend setting
5. If any of you are on a home network and/or have a media center
extender, go to Multimedia Settings (under advanced power
sttings)->When sharing media->and choose "Allow the computer to sleep"

All done, tell me how it works...also I apparently could go into S1 or
S2 either, so I think that has nothing to do with it.


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If you want to reenable the ability to put the computer into sleep mode
perform the following steps:


Start the Power Options Control Panel applet (Start, Control Panel,
Power Settings).
Select the "Change plan settings" option for the current power plan.
On the settings dialog box, click the "Change advanced power settings."

Scroll down to the "Multimedia settings" option and expand the "When
sharing media."
Change the setting to "Allow the computer to sleep.
Click OK, then close all open dialog boxes.


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wow, that wasn't like...exactly the advice I gave was it...?


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I can't get my Vista to sleep properly either. powercfg comes up with S3
sleep support only, and i have a Radeon X700 Pro GFX Card.

I think i remember Vista sleeping correctly before i installed the ATI
drivers, but now i find the screen turns off. When i move the mouse /
hit the keyboard it'll turn on and be locked, but the PC never slept.

It will hibernate properly, but not sleep.


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On Mar 2, 12:38 am, DerekK <D...@GordonKnight.co.uk> wrote:[color=blue]
> This was getting on my nerves. but I saw the reference to POWERCFG and
> had a play with that. My desktop PC with RC1 Vista was not sleeping (it
> would spin the disks down, blank the screen then wake up and I'd be back
> at the "login" screen - type in password and you're back where you
> started...)
>
> Seems my mouse was the problem (it's a USB Optical MS wheel mouse - not
> wireless)
>
> I typed:
>
> D:\Users\Derek>POWERCFG -DEVICEQUERY wake_armed
> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
> Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical
>
> D:\Users\Derek>POWERCFG -DEVICEDISABLEWAKE "Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse[/color]
[color=blue]
> Optical"
>
> D:\Users\Derek>POWERCFG -DEVICEQUERY wake_armed
> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
>
> And now I can sleep. I had to open a command window as administrator to
> disable the mouse as a wake device.
>
> This may work for other sleepless users.
>
> Derek
>
> --
> DerekK[/color]

Great advice. I had my High Definition Audio Controller on my Dell
Dimension set up to wake my computer, and this is the only way I could
disable it.

Thanks Derek!