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Old 01-29-2007, 07:45 PM
LoLPSU
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Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah blah, but
I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5 serial
numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.

My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar or is
it only going to be one serial per box?
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:00 PM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

When you buy a new version of OSX, you have already plopped down a wad for
the hardware to place the O/S upon. They have already made a healthy (very
healthy - apparently) commission on the very expensive hardware you
purchased.

Microsoft only sells the software. Of course they will charge more.

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"LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah blah,
> but
> I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5 serial
> numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
>
> My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar or
> is
> it only going to be one serial per box?[/color]

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Old 01-29-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

"LoLPSU" wrote
[color=blue]
> I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah blah,
> but
> I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5 serial
> numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
>
> My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar or
> is
> it only going to be one serial per box?[/color]

Same as it has been - one license per.

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Old 01-29-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

Thank you for this response. My follow up question is do they offer some
kind of deal for multiple serial numbers?

"Rock" wrote:
[color=blue]
> "LoLPSU" wrote
>[color=green]
> > I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah blah,
> > but
> > I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5 serial
> > numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
> >
> > My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar or
> > is
> > it only going to be one serial per box?[/color]
>
> Same as it has been - one license per.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]
>
>[/color]
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:30 PM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

"LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8A656D75-DCDD-45FA-AC15-9F6CAB13A4A3@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Thank you for this response. My follow up question is do they offer some
> kind of deal for multiple serial numbers?
>
> "Rock" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "LoLPSU" wrote
>>[color=darkred]
>> > I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah
>> > blah,
>> > but
>> > I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5
>> > serial
>> > numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
>> >
>> > My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar
>> > or
>> > is
>> > it only going to be one serial per box?[/color]
>>
>> Same as it has been - one license per.[/color][/color]


They introduced a family discount plan. Purchase either an upgrade or full
version of Vista Ultimate, and you can buy up to two copies of Vista Home
Premium for $49.99 each.

There is volume licensing which I believe starts at a minimum of 5. I don't
know what the costs are.

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Old 01-29-2007, 08:30 PM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

Can't you just answer the question or move on tard?

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:57:34 -0500, "Richard Urban"
<richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>When you buy a new version of OSX, you have already plopped down a wad for
>the hardware to place the O/S upon. They have already made a healthy (very
>healthy - apparently) commission on the very expensive hardware you
>purchased.
>
>Microsoft only sells the software. Of course they will charge more.[/color]
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

Ouch... Ok, I was hoping for multiple serials for Ultimate. Not Ultimate and
a lesser grade.

"Rock" wrote:
[color=blue]
> "LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8A656D75-DCDD-45FA-AC15-9F6CAB13A4A3@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Thank you for this response. My follow up question is do they offer some
> > kind of deal for multiple serial numbers?
> >
> > "Rock" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> "LoLPSU" wrote
> >>
> >> > I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah
> >> > blah,
> >> > but
> >> > I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5
> >> > serial
> >> > numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
> >> >
> >> > My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar
> >> > or
> >> > is
> >> > it only going to be one serial per box?
> >>
> >> Same as it has been - one license per.[/color][/color]
>
>
> They introduced a family discount plan. Purchase either an upgrade or full
> version of Vista Ultimate, and you can buy up to two copies of Vista Home
> Premium for $49.99 each.
>
> There is volume licensing which I believe starts at a minimum of 5. I don't
> know what the costs are.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]
>
>[/color]
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:15 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

MS just introduced a family plan but it works differently than Apple's.

I plan to use Apple's family plan ($179 for five licenses) for Leopard. We
have three Macs in our family.

Microsoft's plan is for three licenses for $350 to $500 and are tied to the
Vista Ultimate edition.

Given the different frequencies with which new versions of Windows and OS/X
are released this is not quite as big a difference as it first appears. I
did not have to pay for new XP releases (the service packs) and so my
initial cost in 2001 was all I have had to pay for the three versions of XP
(Gold, SP1, and SP2). On the other hand, I have been spending $129 every 15
to 18 months to keep current with OS/X (I have been buying single licenses
up to now). I have made three purchases of OS/X (I got my first version
preinstalled and have purchased the boxed copies of 10.2, 10.3, and 10.4).

The $390 I have spent on OS/X is actually more than what XP Pro has cost me.
I don't know how the math will work out now that MS also has a family plan,
but anything such plan has to be less expensive than buying three copies of
Windows separately. I sure hope there is a family plan price war in the
offing. Families can use the break!

The Vista family plan is explained on the Windows Anytime Upgrade home page
on microsoft.com.

"LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:593630DB-1AC2-4693-8576-73D648F0C7FC@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah blah,
> but
> I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5 serial
> numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
>
> My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar or
> is
> it only going to be one serial per box?[/color]

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Old 01-29-2007, 09:15 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

As Rock says, the price break is on five, but requires signing up for volume
licensing. Microsoft does sell additional licenses but the difference in
price in slight ($20). If Windows costs you $200 then the second license
costs you $180. Since it is easy to find discounts greater than $20 most
folks just buy a new copy by shopping around rather than a second license
from MS.

"LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8A656D75-DCDD-45FA-AC15-9F6CAB13A4A3@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Thank you for this response. My follow up question is do they offer some
> kind of deal for multiple serial numbers?
>
> "Rock" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "LoLPSU" wrote
>>[color=darkred]
>> > I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah
>> > blah,
>> > but
>> > I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5
>> > serial
>> > numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
>> >
>> > My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar
>> > or
>> > is
>> > it only going to be one serial per box?[/color]
>>
>> Same as it has been - one license per.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 01-29-2007, 10:30 PM
LoLPSU
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

Well again I wasn't trying to get into an argument with which is better. I
just used that as a quick comparison.

So you're saying if I buy the Ultimate Edition I can install it on 3 systems?

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
[color=blue]
> MS just introduced a family plan but it works differently than Apple's.
>
> I plan to use Apple's family plan ($179 for five licenses) for Leopard. We
> have three Macs in our family.
>
> Microsoft's plan is for three licenses for $350 to $500 and are tied to the
> Vista Ultimate edition.
>
> Given the different frequencies with which new versions of Windows and OS/X
> are released this is not quite as big a difference as it first appears. I
> did not have to pay for new XP releases (the service packs) and so my
> initial cost in 2001 was all I have had to pay for the three versions of XP
> (Gold, SP1, and SP2). On the other hand, I have been spending $129 every 15
> to 18 months to keep current with OS/X (I have been buying single licenses
> up to now). I have made three purchases of OS/X (I got my first version
> preinstalled and have purchased the boxed copies of 10.2, 10.3, and 10.4).
>
> The $390 I have spent on OS/X is actually more than what XP Pro has cost me.
> I don't know how the math will work out now that MS also has a family plan,
> but anything such plan has to be less expensive than buying three copies of
> Windows separately. I sure hope there is a family plan price war in the
> offing. Families can use the break!
>
> The Vista family plan is explained on the Windows Anytime Upgrade home page
> on microsoft.com.
>
> "LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:593630DB-1AC2-4693-8576-73D648F0C7FC@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah blah,
> > but
> > I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5 serial
> > numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
> >
> > My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar or
> > is
> > it only going to be one serial per box?[/color]
>
>[/color]
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:00 PM
Rock
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

"LoLPSU" wrote
[color=blue]
> Well again I wasn't trying to get into an argument with which is better.
> I
> just used that as a quick comparison.
>
> So you're saying if I buy the Ultimate Edition I can install it on 3
> systems?[/color]

No, where did you get that? Only if you buy three copies. One install per
license. The Family discount is buy one Ultimate - upgrade or full - and
get the right to buy up to two Home Premium copies for 49.99 each. Or buy a
volume license which starts at five.

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Old 01-29-2007, 11:15 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

No. You buy Ultimate and go online for one or two licenses for Vista Home
Premium.

The simplest scenario is for the two "other" computers to be running XP
Home. VHP will upgrade XP Home fine, but with XP Pro you will have to clean
install VHP. Doable but requires saving the files and settings, restoring
them after the installation, and reinstallation of the apps.

"LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3DAA5033-57DB-4C48-833B-79BCC0A1471A@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Well again I wasn't trying to get into an argument with which is better.
> I
> just used that as a quick comparison.
>
> So you're saying if I buy the Ultimate Edition I can install it on 3
> systems?
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> MS just introduced a family plan but it works differently than Apple's.
>>
>> I plan to use Apple's family plan ($179 for five licenses) for Leopard.
>> We
>> have three Macs in our family.
>>
>> Microsoft's plan is for three licenses for $350 to $500 and are tied to
>> the
>> Vista Ultimate edition.
>>
>> Given the different frequencies with which new versions of Windows and
>> OS/X
>> are released this is not quite as big a difference as it first appears.
>> I
>> did not have to pay for new XP releases (the service packs) and so my
>> initial cost in 2001 was all I have had to pay for the three versions of
>> XP
>> (Gold, SP1, and SP2). On the other hand, I have been spending $129 every
>> 15
>> to 18 months to keep current with OS/X (I have been buying single
>> licenses
>> up to now). I have made three purchases of OS/X (I got my first version
>> preinstalled and have purchased the boxed copies of 10.2, 10.3, and
>> 10.4).
>>
>> The $390 I have spent on OS/X is actually more than what XP Pro has cost
>> me.
>> I don't know how the math will work out now that MS also has a family
>> plan,
>> but anything such plan has to be less expensive than buying three copies
>> of
>> Windows separately. I sure hope there is a family plan price war in the
>> offing. Families can use the break!
>>
>> The Vista family plan is explained on the Windows Anytime Upgrade home
>> page
>> on microsoft.com.
>>
>> "LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:593630DB-1AC2-4693-8576-73D648F0C7FC@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah blah
>> > blah,
>> > but
>> > I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5
>> > serial
>> > numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different systems legally.
>> >
>> > My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something similar
>> > or
>> > is
>> > it only going to be one serial per box?[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 01-30-2007, 12:45 AM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

Rock,

Have reviewed a few of your recent responses, must admit that you are very
consistent intentionally agitating and insulting Forum participants; at the
expense of Microsoft's integrity and reputation.

One example below:
***************************
LoLPSU" wrote
[color=blue]
> Well again I wasn't trying to get into an argument with which is better.
> I
> just used that as a quick comparison.
>
> So you're saying if I buy the Ultimate Edition I can install it on 3
> systems?[/color]

No, where did you get that? Only if you buy three copies. One install per
license. The Family discount is buy one Ultimate - upgrade or full - and
get the right to buy up to two Home Premium copies for 49.99 each. Or buy a
volume license which starts at five.

--
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--
Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !

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exposing them to the critic."

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"Rock" wrote:
[color=blue]
> "LoLPSU" wrote
>[color=green]
> > Well again I wasn't trying to get into an argument with which is better.
> > I
> > just used that as a quick comparison.
> >
> > So you're saying if I buy the Ultimate Edition I can install it on 3
> > systems?[/color]
>
> No, where did you get that? Only if you buy three copies. One install per
> license. The Family discount is buy one Ultimate - upgrade or full - and
> get the right to buy up to two Home Premium copies for 49.99 each. Or buy a
> volume license which starts at five.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]
>
>[/color]
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:00 AM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

LOL!!

Yes, how dare he be a "smart-elect".

Still don't quite understand "quoting", huh?
All that effort you wasted copying and pasting.
You must be exhausted!

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"Vista Ready" <VistaReady@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FA133C9C-E4E5-49B3-A402-A26D30B26018@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Rock,
>
> Have reviewed a few of your recent responses, must admit that you are very
> consistent intentionally agitating and insulting Forum participants; at
> the
> expense of Microsoft's integrity and reputation.
>
> One example below:
> ***************************
> LoLPSU" wrote
>[color=green]
>> Well again I wasn't trying to get into an argument with which is better.
>> I
>> just used that as a quick comparison.
>>
>> So you're saying if I buy the Ultimate Edition I can install it on 3
>> systems?[/color]
>
> No, where did you get that? Only if you buy three copies. One install
> per
> license. The Family discount is buy one Ultimate - upgrade or full - and
> get the right to buy up to two Home Premium copies for 49.99 each. Or buy
> a
> volume license which starts at five.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]
>
>
> --
> Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !
>
> Posting & Painting
> "Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
> exposing them to the critic."
>
> (Ambrose Bierce)
>
>
>
>
> "Rock" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "LoLPSU" wrote
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Well again I wasn't trying to get into an argument with which is
>> > better.
>> > I
>> > just used that as a quick comparison.
>> >
>> > So you're saying if I buy the Ultimate Edition I can install it on 3
>> > systems?[/color]
>>
>> No, where did you get that? Only if you buy three copies. One install
>> per
>> license. The Family discount is buy one Ultimate - upgrade or full -
>> and
>> get the right to buy up to two Home Premium copies for 49.99 each. Or
>> buy a
>> volume license which starts at five.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 01-30-2007, 01:15 AM
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Re: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

Rock wrote:
[color=blue]
> "LoLPSU" <LoLPSU@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8A656D75-DCDD-45FA-AC15-9F6CAB13A4A3@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Thank you for this response. My follow up question is do they
> > offer some kind of deal for multiple serial numbers?
> >
> > "Rock" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > "LoLPSU" wrote
> > >
> >>> I'm not trying to start an argument on which is better or blah[/color][/color]
> blah > blah, >>> but[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> I was curious. When I buy a new version of OS X, it comes with 5[/color]
> > serial >>> numbers, that allows me to install it on 5 different[/color]
> systems legally.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > >
> >>> My question is will Vista Full version at $399.99 do something[/color][/color]
> similar > or >>> is[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> it only going to be one serial per box?
> > >
> > > Same as it has been - one license per.[/color][/color]
>
>
> They introduced a family discount plan. Purchase either an upgrade
> or full version of Vista Ultimate, and you can buy up to two copies
> of Vista Home Premium for $49.99 each.
>[/color]

No I can't. Please don't post misleading/untrue information here.


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