[url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[/url]

The Mage wrote:[color=blue]
> [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[/url]
>[/color]

That is Microsoft Research...not to be confused with Microsoft...and
it's "research", not to be confused with retail available.
Nice try though!...LOL!

On 8/25/2009 3:25 AM, Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> The Mage wrote:[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[/url]
>>[/color]
>
> That is Microsoft Research...not to be confused with Microsoft...and
> it's "research", not to be confused with retail available.
> Nice try though!...LOL![/color]


Microsoft Research (MSR) is a division of Microsoft created in 1991 for
researching various computer science topics and issues

On 8/25/2009 3:25 AM, Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> The Mage wrote:[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[/url]
>>[/color]
>
> That is Microsoft Research...not to be confused with Microsoft...and
> it's "research", not to be confused with retail available.
> Nice try though!...LOL![/color]

The Windows Sidebar
Sidebar originated in a *Microsoft Research* project called Sideshow
(not to be confused with Windows SideShow.) It was developed in the
summer of 2000, and was used internally at Microsoft.[2] It had many
similarities to current desktop gadget software, including a clock,
traffic reports, and IM integration.

The Sidebar appeared in "Longhorn" (Windows Vista) builds as early as
September 2002, and was originally intended to replace the notification
area or Quick Launch toolbar in Windows, but these plans were scrapped
after the Longhorn "reset" in mid-2004.[3]

The Windows Sidebar was rebuilt for and began to appear in Windows Vista
builds in the second half of 2005, some reviewers and Macintosh
enthusiasts have pointed out the Sidebar's similarities in form and
function to Konfabulator (now Yahoo! Widget Engine) and the Dashboard
widget engine first included with Apple Inc.'s Mac OS X v10.4, which had
been released a few months earlier. It should be noted that Windows
Sidebar originally appeared in Longhorn long before Yahoo! Widget and
Dashboard made their first debut.

In Windows 7, Windows Sidebar was renamed Windows Desktop Gadgets, and
the sidebar itself is not present.

lets see how many other ms products you can find here


Research projects

* C#
* Polyphonic C# / Cω
* Spec# / Sing#
* Bartok compiler
* Singularity OS
* Bigtop / Gridline
* F# programming language
* Wallop
* BitVault
* Allegiance (computer game)
* SXM, a STM library
* Avalanche, p2p protocol based on BitTorrent
* MyLifeBits
* MultiMouse, for shared usage of PC
* Audio Watermarking
* Virtual Ring Routing driver
* MSBNx, Bayesian network tookit
* Data visualization library
* Gyro, which matured as .NET 2.0 generics
* IceCube shared data synchronization engine
* Search Result Clustering toolbar
* Vault, a safe version of C programming language
* WWMX, geotagging digital images
* Digital Green, a farmer-generated, video-based social network
service for agricultural extension in rural India
* WorldWide Telescope
* SenseCam
* Group Shot
* Songsmith



* TouchLight
* HoneyMonkey
* ClearType
* ConferenceXP
* SenseWeb Project
* Strider GhostBuster rootkit detection system
* Strider URL Tracer / Typo-Patrol anti typosquatting system
* Penny Black Project
* Sideshow[15][16]
* SLAM project
* ZenZui
* Kodu
* Color Barcodes, to enhance capacity of barcodes
* GLEE graph layout engine
* SecPAL grid authorization language
* Web Assistant,[17] a contexual search system
* Community Bar, context sensitive content plugin
* JCluster clustering engine
* Virtual WiFi, a WiFi adapter virtualizer
* Scalable Fabric, a Windows task management system
* TulaFale, language for verifiable description of Web Services
* Zing model checker
* Hotmap, a mashup that shows where people have looked at using
Virtual Earth
* Virtual India
* HD View, a viewer that can aid in the display and interaction
with very large (Gigapixel) images
* Image Composite Editor
* ESL Assistant, a proofing tool for ESL English learners

The Mage wrote:
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> On 8/25/2009 3:25 AM, Frank wrote:[color=green]
>> The Mage wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-[/url][/color][/color][/color]
computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>[/color]
>>
>> That is Microsoft Research...not to be confused with Microsoft...and
>> it's "research", not to be confused with retail available.
>> Nice try though!...LOL![/color]
>
>
> Microsoft Research (MSR) is a division of Microsoft created in 1991 for
> researching various computer science topics and issues[/color]

And, clearly MS is interested in Linux...as any clear thinking individual
would see its benefits.

Its hard to believe anyone with an interest in computers/electronics could
find a downside to Linux.

--
The thing about references is; it is usually one person who can't pay
guaranteeing that another person who can't pay can pay. -Mr. Pancks

Microsoft will from time to time make use of competing software / products
for "whatever" purposes - 'tis no big deal, really it's not.

Saucy


"The Mage" <the@Mage.earth> wrote in message
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> [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[/url][/color]

On 8/25/2009 3:59 AM, Mr.Pancks wrote:[color=blue]
> The Mage wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On 8/25/2009 3:25 AM, Frank wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> The Mage wrote:
>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-[/url][/color][/color]
> computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is Microsoft Research...not to be confused with Microsoft...and
>>> it's "research", not to be confused with retail available.
>>> Nice try though!...LOL![/color]
>>
>>
>> Microsoft Research (MSR) is a division of Microsoft created in 1991 for
>> researching various computer science topics and issues[/color]
>
> And, clearly MS is interested in Linux...as any clear thinking individual
> would see its benefits.
>
> Its hard to believe anyone with an interest in computers/electronics could
> find a downside to Linux.
>[/color]

there are a couple of morons in here who *think* they have an interest
in computers and hate linux
They are infested by extreme ignorance

the moron is you, because Microsoft studies Linux for the same reason
CocaCola studies PepsiCola - to defeat competition, means to learn, befriend
and dig a large grave for your competitor.

Look what Microsoft did to Sun Microsystems. There was time Java VM has
almost become part of Windows - unthinkable!
In the following years Sun was hammered into the grave.

Bill is genius.

it's not a big deal to normal people, but to Linux addicts - since they have
no real income, they can't afford real softwaere so they play with hobby
OS's whose value is 8 o a scale of 100 in business world.

LINUX HAS NO VALUE in Business world.
None of my $30-50,000 Engineering applications run on Linux, they were meant
for WinServer or Xp64 otr Vista64.
I'd be ****ed if any employer forces me to use Linux, because I had enough
of losing precious data and wasting time on this hibbyists system where
NOBODY takes responsibility.

There's no on eto point finger at, no customer service, not accountability,
it's not a product. It's a free toy, if it breaks - your problem.
And it breaks plenty of times, until I uninstalled and reclaimed 12Gb of
space after ditching Linux SUSE by Novell - one of the best.
What about the other Linux flavors? Even orse!

JewBoy wrote:
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> it's not a big deal to normal people, but to Linux addicts - since they
> have no real income, they can't afford real softwaere so they play with
> hobby OS's whose value is 8 o a scale of 100 in business world.
>
> LINUX HAS NO VALUE in Business world.
> None of my $30-50,000 Engineering applications run on Linux, they were
> meant for WinServer or Xp64 otr Vista64.
> I'd be ****ed if any employer forces me to use Linux, because I had enough
> of losing precious data and wasting time on this hibbyists system where
> NOBODY takes responsibility.
>[/color]

So, MS will replace lost data?

Where are you losing all this linux data?
Did you look under the bed?

NASA uses linux...lots of engineers there.
You must mean sanitation engineers use windows.
[color=blue]
> There's no on eto point finger at, no customer service, not
> accountability,
> it's not a product. It's a free toy, if it breaks - your problem.
> And it breaks plenty of times, until I uninstalled and reclaimed 12Gb of
> space after ditching Linux SUSE by Novell - one of the best.
> What about the other Linux flavors? Even orse![/color]

ummm .... if Windows breaks, it's still your problem.

The EULA holds MS blameless.

What frickin' guarantee of accountability from MS do you refer to?

--
The thing about references is; it is usually one person who can't pay
guaranteeing that another person who can't pay can pay. -Mr. Pancks

Huh? Where did you get that Sun was hammered into the grave. First of all Sun won
it's suit against Microsoft and secondly Sun is thriving

--
Peter

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"JewBoy" <FaakFreeTrade@ChinaStealsUSjobs> wrote in message
news:e$4f$cSJKHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> the moron is you, because Microsoft studies Linux for the same reason CocaCola
> studies PepsiCola - to defeat competition, means to learn, befriend and dig a
> large grave for your competitor.
>
> Look what Microsoft did to Sun Microsystems. There was time Java VM has almost
> become part of Windows - unthinkable!
> In the following years Sun was hammered into the grave.
>
> Bill is genius.[/color]

Linux is like introducing Communism.
It defies the principle of paying for goods.
This defiance is only acceptable for Social causes like medical supplies for
victims of a natural disaster - the State provides it for free as far as
budget allows on top of any private investment, or reduced cost of a
national Mail or Railway service. It's no secret mailing a letter in USA
costs more than you pay, but it is so critical for social fabric that State
taxes all to provide this common service. For decades US Government even
sponsored Phone service, preventing anyone from competing with AT&T.
But often State control goes awry so AT&T started charging $3/minute
adjusted for inflation in 1990's when we came to this country, when calling
Russia.

And I've spent 20 years of my 38 years of life, biorn/raised in a country
where like you say people assume software should be free. But having
exprienced that system personally, I say It's a malicious, poisonous
concept - Communism. Capitalism is not an answer, it's also bad, but
there's no perfect land/system on this Earth, yet USA is one of the best.
And frankly I prefer to pay for Windows and don't want to see US Premier
Corporation - Microsoft, to be hurt. It employs great many people who spend
their income buying goods other people produce, and the cycle goes on.

Software is not a life's necessity, not a socially-critical type of product
which must be free or even discounted. You have to pay for it, so
development wouldn't stop.

But then you will hit me back by saying how Linux has progressed and
development is so vibrant, continues w/o any customers paying $200/disk (or
whatever they pay) as with Windows?
You know why? PRECISELY BECAUSE THERE's WINDOWS. Kill WIndows, and linux
will turn into a stagnant hobbyist piece of code even further, because right
now Linux clique i sdriven by an ideal, like Fidekl Castro was driven to
Socialism and made his nation POOR in the process.

Whenever you stop charging for a product, someone loses a job, and someone
who makes it for free is a lunatic, selfless dopehead or has a political
agenda against Corporate America.

I do not support your efforts. It's not surprising you live in Spain! If i
wanted, I could immigrate to Germany where many of our relatives re-settled,
but i had enough of Socialism.
I can pay for Windows and will continue using it for business.

I use linux to entrtain my mind, reduce cost for noncritical applications
like appliances, or science/experiements. But if design a circuit board for
a Military customer, I use Cadence Allegro16.2 running under WINDOWS, even
though Cadence offers the same under Linux. But evertime I check Linux
version, it's crippled/limited comparing to Windows.
Absolutely same with AWR MicrowaveOffice costing $34,000 in full license, I
am not going to risk running under Linux even if they offer.

I have to often do "homework" in Linux, which was already done by Microsoft
in Windows - usually device drivers, like peripherals, BlueRay Disks,
external pointing device, video, etc all needs some tweaks in Linux. But
it's all complete in WIndows, why bother with Linux just because it's
"cool".

On the other hand I drive a bare-bonez stripped down Nissan Sentra and find
more joy in it than in cars costing 4x more, comfortable & shiny! I guess
unlike software, with cars I am Linux-like, I refuse major models and prefer
my rugged Sentra horse. I hate Toyot, Mercedes, BMW like you hate
Microsoft, perhaps.

The Mage wrote:[color=blue]
> On 8/25/2009 3:25 AM, Frank wrote:[color=green]
>> The Mage wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[/url]
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> That is Microsoft Research...not to be confused with Microsoft...and
>> it's "research", not to be confused with retail available.
>> Nice try though!...LOL![/color]
>
>
> Microsoft Research (MSR) is a division of Microsoft created in 1991 for
> researching various computer science topics and issues[/color]

Well DUH!!! But it ain't Microsoft, the retail division...as you so
unsuccessfully tried to intimate.
Got it?

Mr.Pancks wrote:[color=blue]
> The Mage wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On 8/25/2009 3:25 AM, Frank wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> The Mage wrote:
>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/24/microsoft-we-want-your-[/url][/color][/color]
> computer-to-talk-in-its-sleep[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> That is Microsoft Research...not to be confused with Microsoft...and
>>> it's "research", not to be confused with retail available.
>>> Nice try though!...LOL![/color]
>>
>> Microsoft Research (MSR) is a division of Microsoft created in 1991 for
>> researching various computer science topics and issues[/color]
>
> And, clearly MS is interested in Linux...as any clear thinking individual
> would see its benefits.[/color]

Lets us not confuse all open source computer code as being "linux', as
clearly it isn't.

Its hard to believe anyone with an interest in computers/electronics could
find a downside to Linux.

Other than not being commercially viable, RE: profitable, there is no
"downside" so to speak.

On 8/25/2009 7:05 AM, Frank wrote:
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>
> Well DUH!!! But it ain't Microsoft, the retail division...as you so
> unsuccessfully tried to intimate.
> Got it?[/color]

I didnt say Microsoft retail.. you said that...

You have a tendency to listen to things that are not being said....

there is a word for that condition: Schizophrenia.