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Old 08-09-2009, 05:30 PM
Reila
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Mission: Eliminate Vista


First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
but sometimes I can be rather blind.

Secondly, *my goal*.
I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.

Now, *the details*.
I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
*notebook*.
I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.

MY REASON:
My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
smoothly, it requires 2GB.
Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
nothing changed.
Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
better.

Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
XP on it.
However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
smart thing to do would find help.

My search led me to this forum.
I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
drivers to install.

I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
LOVE to get it.
However, I don't have the money for it.
In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.

So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
And remember, I'm illiterate.

Thank you.


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Old 08-09-2009, 05:40 PM
philo
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista


"Reila" <Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com...[color=blue]
>
> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>
> Secondly, *my goal*.
> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>
> Now, *the details*.
> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
> *notebook*.
> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>
> MY REASON:
> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
> nothing changed.
> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
> better.
>
>[/color]


<snip>

If your machine runs Vista OK but is just slow,
I'd just take the RAM up to2 or 3 gigs and tweak it a bit.

Ohterwise if you go with XP check first to be sure you can get all the
drivers


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Old 08-09-2009, 06:00 PM
Charles W Davis
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista


"Reila" <Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com...[color=blue]
>
> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>
> Secondly, *my goal*.
> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>[/color]
Don't bother
[color=blue]
> Now, *the details*.
> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
> *notebook*.
> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.[/color]

If this statement is true, don't attempt to install XP.[color=blue]
>
> MY REASON:
> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
> smoothly, it requires 2GB.[/color]

Add memory, it's relatively cheap.[color=blue]
> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
> nothing changed.
> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
> better.
>[/color]
Probably not.[color=blue]
> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
> XP on it.[/color]

Borrowing trouble, unless boyfriend has uninstalled it. Read the EULA.
[color=blue]
> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
> smart thing to do would find help.
>
> My search led me to this forum.
> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
> drivers to install.
>
> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
> LOVE to get it.
> However, I don't have the money for it.
> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>[/color]

Wait until your ship comes in and splurge on a new laptop that isn't a wimp.
[color=blue]
> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
> And remember, I'm illiterate.[/color]

And blonde?[color=blue]
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Reila
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> View this thread: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/vista-help/1229002.htm[/url]
>
> [url]http://forums.techarena.in[/url]
>[/color]

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Old 08-09-2009, 06:30 PM
Justin
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

Reila wrote:[color=blue]
> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>
> Secondly, *my goal*.
> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>
> Now, *the details*.
> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
> *notebook*.
> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.[/color]

In that case I suggest staying with the factory installed Vista.
[color=blue]
>
> MY REASON:
> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
> nothing changed.
> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
> better.[/color]

Maybe, but then again maybe not. It seems to be your machine is
suffering from a shortage of RAM and general clutter and bloatware.
It might be worth it to have the machine taken to a repair shop and have
it reformatted. Generally the small mom and pop shops are very
inexpensive and as long as you have all your CDs and DVDs it oly takes a
few hours.
Don't go to Geek Squad.

[color=blue]
>
> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
> XP on it.
> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
> smart thing to do would find help.[/color]

Add to the fact that you can't install two copies of Windows from the
same COA - Certificate of authenticity.
[url]http://oem.microsoft.com/public/seo/certificate_of_authenticity.htm[/url]

Technically the version of Windows that came with the desktop machine is
married to that particular machine and can't be used on anything else.
[color=blue]
>
> My search led me to this forum.
> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
> drivers to install.
>
> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
> LOVE to get it.
> However, I don't have the money for it.
> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>
> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>
> Thank you.
>
>[/color]

Vista is the not the atrocious piece of junk everyone is making it out
to be. I use a Mac for my laptops but for my powerful desktops I'm
running XP64 and Vista Ultimate 64.
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Old 08-09-2009, 07:20 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

"Reila" <Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com...[color=blue]
>
> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>
> Secondly, *my goal*.
> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>
> Now, *the details*.
> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
> *notebook*.
> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>
> MY REASON:
> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
> nothing changed.
> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
> better.
>
> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
> XP on it.
> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
> smart thing to do would find help.
>
> My search led me to this forum.
> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
> drivers to install.
>
> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
> LOVE to get it.
> However, I don't have the money for it.
> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>
> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Reila
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Reila's Profile: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/members/123268.htm[/url]
> View this thread: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/vista-help/1229002.htm[/url]
>
> [url]http://forums.techarena.in[/url]
>[/color]

Don't try to do this yourself. I suggest you visit a computer store and ask
them to help you. Others have suggested more memory and that most likely
would be your best solution. The computer store can determine if your
Toshiba will take a memory upgrade and help you do it.

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Old 08-10-2009, 06:50 AM
Jim
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista


More memory ; best bet .



On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:00:27 +0530, Reila <Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
>is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
>but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>
>Secondly, *my goal*.
>I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>
>Now, *the details*.
>I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
>*notebook*.
>I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
>Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
>I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>
>MY REASON:
>My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
>only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
>smoothly, it requires 2GB.
>Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
>all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
>a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
>) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
>It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
>were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
>nothing changed.
>Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
>better.
>
>Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
>borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
>XP on it.
>However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
>about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
>found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
>smart thing to do would find help.
>
>My search led me to this forum.
>I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
>I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
>of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
>just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
>drivers to install.
>
>I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
>at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
>I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
>LOVE to get it.
>However, I don't have the money for it.
>In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>
>So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
>And remember, I'm illiterate.
>
>Thank you.[/color]
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:00 AM
Alias
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

Justin wrote:[color=blue]
> Reila wrote:[color=green]
>> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
>> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
>> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>>
>> Secondly, *my goal*.
>> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>>
>> Now, *the details*.
>> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
>> *notebook*.
>> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
>> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
>> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.[/color]
>
> In that case I suggest staying with the factory installed Vista.
>[color=green]
>>
>> MY REASON:
>> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
>> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
>> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
>> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
>> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
>> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
>> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
>> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
>> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
>> nothing changed.
>> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
>> better.[/color]
>
> Maybe, but then again maybe not. It seems to be your machine is
> suffering from a shortage of RAM and general clutter and bloatware.
> It might be worth it to have the machine taken to a repair shop and have
> it reformatted. Generally the small mom and pop shops are very
> inexpensive and as long as you have all your CDs and DVDs it oly takes a
> few hours.
> Don't go to Geek Squad.
>
>[color=green]
>>
>> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
>> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
>> XP on it.
>> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
>> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
>> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
>> smart thing to do would find help.[/color]
>
> Add to the fact that you can't install two copies of Windows from the
> same COA - Certificate of authenticity.
> [url]http://oem.microsoft.com/public/seo/certificate_of_authenticity.htm[/url]
>
> Technically the version of Windows that came with the desktop machine is
> married to that particular machine and can't be used on anything else.[/color]

Um, not technically but as per the EULA which you don't get to read
until it's too late to get your money back. TECHNICALLY, if it's been
over 120 days since her boyfriend activated XP, it WILL activate on
another computer, technically speaking, of course.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>> My search led me to this forum.
>> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
>> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
>> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
>> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
>> drivers to install.
>>
>> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
>> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
>> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
>> LOVE to get it.
>> However, I don't have the money for it.
>> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>>
>> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
>> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Vista is the not the atrocious piece of junk everyone is making it out
> to be.[/color]

No, it's worse.
[color=blue]
> I use a Mac for my laptops but for my powerful desktops I'm
> running XP64 and Vista Ultimate 64.[/color]

Still holding on to XP, eh? I wonder why.

Alias
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:00 AM
Alias
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

Reila wrote:[color=blue]
> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>
> Secondly, *my goal*.
> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>
> Now, *the details*.
> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
> *notebook*.
> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>
> MY REASON:
> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
> nothing changed.
> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
> better.
>
> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
> XP on it.
> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
> smart thing to do would find help.
>
> My search led me to this forum.
> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
> drivers to install.
>
> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
> LOVE to get it.
> However, I don't have the money for it.
> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>
> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>
> Thank you.
>
>[/color]

No money? No problem. Download Ubuntu from [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] and
burn it to a CD. It's free. Install it by slipping the CD into your
optical drive and follow the easy instructions. It will recognize and
install all the drivers and it comes with access to thousands of free
programs. Not only that, there is NO malware in the wild for Ubuntu so
you can safely surf the net *anywhere*. Or, as Microsoft used to say,
"Where do you want to go today?"

Alias
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:20 AM
Mike Hall - MVP
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista


"Reila" <Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com...[color=blue]
>
> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>
> Secondly, *my goal*.
> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>
> Now, *the details*.
> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
> *notebook*.
> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>
> MY REASON:
> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
> nothing changed.
> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
> better.
>
> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
> XP on it.
> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
> smart thing to do would find help.
>
> My search led me to this forum.
> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
> drivers to install.
>
> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
> LOVE to get it.
> However, I don't have the money for it.
> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>
> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Reila
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Reila's Profile: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/members/123268.htm[/url]
> View this thread: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/vista-help/1229002.htm[/url]
>
> [url]http://forums.techarena.in[/url]
>[/color]

If you only have $25, you are in trouble.

A Windows XP or Windows 7 license will cost more than that, and you will
need one or the other to proceed.

Reputable stores will charge way more than $25 to install XP for you, and
there will also be the cost of a license.

Back street stores will charge more than $25, and there is a good chance
that you will end up with a pirated version of XP which brings problems all
of its own.

Adding memory will still be the cheapest and best way to go..

--

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[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

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Old 08-10-2009, 08:30 AM
Alias
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Reila" <Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com...[color=green]
>>
>> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
>> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
>> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>>
>> Secondly, *my goal*.
>> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>>
>> Now, *the details*.
>> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
>> *notebook*.
>> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
>> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
>> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>>
>> MY REASON:
>> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
>> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
>> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
>> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
>> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
>> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
>> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
>> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
>> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
>> nothing changed.
>> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
>> better.
>>
>> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
>> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
>> XP on it.
>> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
>> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
>> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
>> smart thing to do would find help.
>>
>> My search led me to this forum.
>> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
>> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
>> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
>> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
>> drivers to install.
>>
>> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
>> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
>> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
>> LOVE to get it.
>> However, I don't have the money for it.
>> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>>
>> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
>> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Reila
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Reila's Profile: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/members/123268.htm[/url]
>> View this thread: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/vista-help/1229002.htm[/url]
>>
>> [url]http://forums.techarena.in[/url]
>>[/color]
>
> If you only have $25, you are in trouble.
>
> A Windows XP or Windows 7 license will cost more than that, and you will
> need one or the other to proceed.
>
> Reputable stores will charge way more than $25 to install XP for you,
> and there will also be the cost of a license.
>
> Back street stores will charge more than $25, and there is a good chance
> that you will end up with a pirated version of XP which brings problems
> all of its own.
>
> Adding memory will still be the cheapest and best way to go..
>[/color]

Cheapest? No Ubuntu would be cheaper because it would run just fine on
that machine and would cost her the price of a CD-R. Better? An opinion
and, being as your livelihood comes from Microsoft, you're biased.

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Old 08-10-2009, 11:00 AM
Mike Hall - MVP
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Posts: n/a
Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista


"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h5pepc$t5j$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "Reila" <Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
>>> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
>>> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>>>
>>> Secondly, *my goal*.
>>> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>>>
>>> Now, *the details*.
>>> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
>>> *notebook*.
>>> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
>>> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
>>> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>>>
>>> MY REASON:
>>> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
>>> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
>>> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
>>> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
>>> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
>>> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
>>> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
>>> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
>>> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
>>> nothing changed.
>>> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
>>> better.
>>>
>>> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
>>> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
>>> XP on it.
>>> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
>>> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
>>> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
>>> smart thing to do would find help.
>>>
>>> My search led me to this forum.
>>> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
>>> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
>>> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
>>> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
>>> drivers to install.
>>>
>>> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
>>> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
>>> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
>>> LOVE to get it.
>>> However, I don't have the money for it.
>>> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>>>
>>> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
>>> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Reila
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Reila's Profile: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/members/123268.htm[/url]
>>> View this thread: [url]http://forums.techarena.in/vista-help/1229002.htm[/url]
>>>
>>> [url]http://forums.techarena.in[/url]
>>>[/color]
>>
>> If you only have $25, you are in trouble.
>>
>> A Windows XP or Windows 7 license will cost more than that, and you will
>> need one or the other to proceed.
>>
>> Reputable stores will charge way more than $25 to install XP for you, and
>> there will also be the cost of a license.
>>
>> Back street stores will charge more than $25, and there is a good chance
>> that you will end up with a pirated version of XP which brings problems
>> all of its own.
>>
>> Adding memory will still be the cheapest and best way to go..
>>[/color]
>
> Cheapest? No Ubuntu would be cheaper because it would run just fine on
> that machine and would cost her the price of a CD-R. Better? An opinion
> and, being as your livelihood comes from Microsoft, you're biased.
>
> Alias[/color]

Not better if the OP wants to run a version of Windows..

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Old 08-10-2009, 12:00 PM
Philo Shagnasty
Newsgroup Contributor
 
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Reila wrote:[color=green]
>> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
>> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
>> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>>
>> Secondly, *my goal*.
>> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>>
>> Now, *the details*.
>> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
>> *notebook*.
>> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
>> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
>> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>>
>> MY REASON:
>> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
>> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
>> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
>> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
>> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
>> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
>> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
>> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
>> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
>> nothing changed.
>> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
>> better.
>>
>> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
>> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
>> XP on it.
>> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
>> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
>> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
>> smart thing to do would find help.
>>
>> My search led me to this forum.
>> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
>> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
>> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
>> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
>> drivers to install.
>>
>> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
>> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
>> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
>> LOVE to get it.
>> However, I don't have the money for it.
>> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>>
>> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
>> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> No money? No problem. Download Ubuntu from [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] and
> burn it to a CD. It's free. Install it by slipping the CD into your
> optical drive and follow the easy instructions. It will recognize and
> install all the drivers and it comes with access to thousands of free
> programs. Not only that, there is NO malware in the wild for Ubuntu so
> you can safely surf the net *anywhere*. Or, as Microsoft used to say,
> "Where do you want to go today?"
>
> Alias[/color]
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:10 PM
+Bob+
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:00:27 +0530, Reila <Reila.3wofba@DoNotSpam.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
>at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
>I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
>LOVE to get it.
>However, I don't have the money for it.
>In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>
>So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
>And remember, I'm illiterate.
>
>Thank you.[/color]

Reila:

I would suggest that you try to find an original reload disk with XP
for that machine. Toshiba does not provide OS disks per se, they give
you disks that will reload the system to factory start up condition.
But, they are simple: load in the CD/DVD drive, boot, it will walk you
through a very simple reload of the system. XP will run fine on that
machine.

You can probably still get the disc from Toshiba, or on Ebay, for very
short money. Give it a shot. It does need to be specific to that
Toshiba model.

Failing that, you could do the reformat and install of XP from a
retail disk, but that's going to be a long day. You'll need to get all
the drivers from Toshiba, etc. It's definitely not the best option
unless the BF or a friend is highly practiced in doing such things.





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Old 08-11-2009, 02:30 AM
Mike Brannigan
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

Please be very careful when you listen to "Alias" his statement in this
thread is clearly untrue.
As Ubuntu is just another Linux distribution the following applies.

alsia said "... there is NO malware in the wild for Ubuntu ..."

Actually from [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware[/url]

The following is a partial list of known Linux malware. Known malware is not
the only or even the most important threat: new malware or attacks directed
to specific sites can use vulnerabilities not previously known to the
community or not previously used by malware.


[edit] Trojans
Kaiten - Linux.Backdoor.Kaiten trojan horse[13]
Rexob - Linux.Backdoor.Rexob trojan[14]

[edit] Viruses
Alaeda - Virus.Linux.Alaeda[15]
Bad Bunny - Perl.Badbunny[5][16]
Binom - Linux/Binom[17]
Bliss
Brundle[18]
Bukowski[19]
Diesel - Virus.Linux.Diesel.962[20]
Kagob a - Virus.Linux.Kagob.a[21]
Kagob b - Virus.Linux.Kagob.b[22]
MetaPHOR (also known as Simile)[23]
Nuxbee - Virus.Linux.Nuxbee.1403[24]
OSF.8759
Podloso - Linux.Podloso (The iPod virus)[25][26]
Rike - Virus.Linux.Rike.1627[27]
RST - Virus.Linux.RST.a[28]
Satyr - Virus.Linux.Satyr.a[29]
Staog
Vit - Virus.Linux.Vit.4096[30]
Winter - Virus.Linux.Winter.341[31]
Winux (also known as Lindose and PEElf)[32]
Wit virus[33]
ZipWorm - Virus.Linux.ZipWorm[34]

[edit] Worms
Adm - Net-Worm.Linux.Adm[35]
Adore[36]
Cheese - Net-Worm.Linux.Cheese[37]
Devnull
Kork[38]
Linux/Lion
Mighty - Net-Worm.Linux.Mighty[39]
Millen - Linux.Millen.Worm[40]
Ramen worm
Slapper[41]
SSH Bruteforce[42]

If there was no malware threat for Linux then why do all the following
produce prodcuts

There are a number of anti-virus applications available for Linux computers,
including:

Avast! (freeware and commercial versions)
AVG (freeware and commercial versions)
Avira (freeware and commercial)
Bitdefender (freeware and commercial versions)
ClamAV (free open source software)
Eset (commercial versions)[6][7][8]
F-Secure Linux (commercial)
Kaspersky Linux Security (commercial)[9]
McAfee VirusScan Enterprise for Linux (commercial)[10]
Panda Security for Linux (commercial version)[11]
Sophos (commercial)
Symantec AntiVirus for Linux (commercial)[12]
Trend Micro ServerProtect for Linux (commercial)

Typical Alias nonsense post.
--

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"Philo Shagnasty" <philo@shagnasty.com> wrote in message
news:h5pq6q$klg$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> Reila wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> First off, hello. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, or if there
>>> is a thread similar which has my answer. I did attempt to find anything,
>>> but sometimes I can be rather blind.
>>>
>>> Secondly, *my goal*.
>>> I'd like to get rid of Vista and instead get XP.
>>>
>>> Now, *the details*.
>>> I am on a *Toshiba Satellite A210 *( Which is now discontinued )
>>> *notebook*.
>>> I have looked on the Toshiba site itself, and it has many drivers for
>>> Windows XP ( Not that I know what they are )
>>> I am almost completely computer illiterate. Sadly.
>>>
>>> MY REASON:
>>> My notebook was not built for Vista, however it came with Vista. It
>>> only has and only came with 1GB of memory, and for Vista to run
>>> smoothly, it requires 2GB.
>>> Also, I've had many problems with my notebook, such as it being slow,
>>> all programs not responding ( The program turns all blank/white and has
>>> a constant loading thing happening. That's my fail way of explaining it
>>> ) at some point, including the task bar and even the start menu.
>>> It began to run so slow that I changed it so that all the pretty things
>>> were taken off so that it would have a better performance, however
>>> nothing changed.
>>> Therefore, I figured that changing to XP would help it to possibly run
>>> better.
>>>
>>> Originally, my boyfriend and I planned to reformat my computer, and I'd
>>> borrow his XP disk that came with his desktop computer and we'd just put
>>> XP on it.
>>> However, because I am a google fanatic, I google'd everything I can
>>> about this process, and found that that is in fact NOT the way to go. I
>>> found that many people have had problems in doing so, and I figured the
>>> smart thing to do would find help.
>>>
>>> My search led me to this forum.
>>> I'm hoping that I can find the help I need here.
>>> I'd love a step-by-step tutorial or instruction on how to get Vista off
>>> of this laptop ( I'd rather it not be Dual with XP and I'd rather it
>>> just be completely XP ) and replace it with XP, and then know which
>>> drivers to install.
>>>
>>> I do know that some of you will tell me that I shouldn't bother with XP
>>> at all, or even bother with Vista at all, and just go with Windows 7.
>>> I've heard AMAZING things about Windows 7 already, and believe me I'd
>>> LOVE to get it.
>>> However, I don't have the money for it.
>>> In fact, the only amount I have at this moment is $25. Wow, I rock.
>>>
>>> So therefore, I'd like any thoughts or any instruction on what to do.
>>> And remember, I'm illiterate.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> No money? No problem. Download Ubuntu from [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/[/url] and
>> burn it to a CD. It's free. Install it by slipping the CD into your
>> optical drive and follow the easy instructions. It will recognize and
>> install all the drivers and it comes with access to thousands of free
>> programs. Not only that, there is NO malware in the wild for Ubuntu so
>> you can safely surf the net *anywhere*. Or, as Microsoft used to say,
>> "Where do you want to go today?"
>>
>> Alias[/color][/color]

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Old 08-11-2009, 04:40 AM
Alias
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Re: Mission: Eliminate Vista

Mike Brannigan wrote:[color=blue]
> Please be very careful when you listen to "Alias" his statement in this
> thread is clearly untrue.
> As Ubuntu is just another Linux distribution the following applies.
>
> alsia said "... there is NO malware in the wild for Ubuntu ..."
>
> Actually from [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware[/url]
>
> The following is a partial list of known Linux malware. Known malware is
> not the only or even the most important threat: new malware or attacks
> directed to specific sites can use vulnerabilities not previously known
> to the community or not previously used by malware.
>
>
> [edit] Trojans
> Kaiten - Linux.Backdoor.Kaiten trojan horse[13]
> Rexob - Linux.Backdoor.Rexob trojan[14]
>
> [edit] Viruses
> Alaeda - Virus.Linux.Alaeda[15]
> Bad Bunny - Perl.Badbunny[5][16]
> Binom - Linux/Binom[17]
> Bliss
> Brundle[18]
> Bukowski[19]
> Diesel - Virus.Linux.Diesel.962[20]
> Kagob a - Virus.Linux.Kagob.a[21]
> Kagob b - Virus.Linux.Kagob.b[22]
> MetaPHOR (also known as Simile)[23]
> Nuxbee - Virus.Linux.Nuxbee.1403[24]
> OSF.8759
> Podloso - Linux.Podloso (The iPod virus)[25][26]
> Rike - Virus.Linux.Rike.1627[27]
> RST - Virus.Linux.RST.a[28]
> Satyr - Virus.Linux.Satyr.a[29]
> Staog
> Vit - Virus.Linux.Vit.4096[30]
> Winter - Virus.Linux.Winter.341[31]
> Winux (also known as Lindose and PEElf)[32]
> Wit virus[33]
> ZipWorm - Virus.Linux.ZipWorm[34]
>
> [edit] Worms
> Adm - Net-Worm.Linux.Adm[35]
> Adore[36]
> Cheese - Net-Worm.Linux.Cheese[37]
> Devnull
> Kork[38]
> Linux/Lion
> Mighty - Net-Worm.Linux.Mighty[39]
> Millen - Linux.Millen.Worm[40]
> Ramen worm
> Slapper[41]
> SSH Bruteforce[42][/color]

When you consider that an up-to-date copy of Ubuntu will not be affected
by the above and the MILLIONS of malware targeting Windows, it's obvious
that Ubuntu is safer.
[color=blue]
>
> If there was no malware threat for Linux then why do all the following
> produce prodcuts
>
> There are a number of anti-virus applications available for Linux
> computers, including:
>
> Avast! (freeware and commercial versions)
> AVG (freeware and commercial versions)
> Avira (freeware and commercial)
> Bitdefender (freeware and commercial versions)
> ClamAV (free open source software)
> Eset (commercial versions)[6][7][8]
> F-Secure Linux (commercial)
> Kaspersky Linux Security (commercial)[9]
> McAfee VirusScan Enterprise for Linux (commercial)[10]
> Panda Security for Linux (commercial version)[11]
> Sophos (commercial)
> Symantec AntiVirus for Linux (commercial)[12]
> Trend Micro ServerProtect for Linux (commercial)[/color]

To make money. Why did MS include a registry cleaner with No Care? To
make money, of course, because XP doesn't need a registry cleaner.
[color=blue]
>
> Typical Alias nonsense post.[/color]

Typical Windows shill FUD.

Alias
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