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Old 08-01-2009, 05:50 AM
MAT
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64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.

Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.

I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
64-bit Vista version.

According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use the
32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank since the
drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.

3 questions:
How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit and not
64-bit version?

Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit on the
same PC?

Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use programs with
32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and 64-bit
Vista?

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Old 08-01-2009, 05:50 AM
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Old 08-01-2009, 06:00 AM
Richard Urban
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which does not
allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer (64 bit).

So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version of I.E.
you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install is corrupted
somehow.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>
> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
> matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>
> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
> 64-bit Vista version.
>
> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use the
> 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank since the
> drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>
> 3 questions:
> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit and not
> 64-bit version?
>
> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit on the
> same PC?
>
> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use programs
> with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and 64-bit
> Vista?[/color]

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Old 08-01-2009, 08:00 AM
MAT
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Thanks for prompt answer:
I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista and see
if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new security code (to
the new PC).
I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player was
the issue.
Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista compatibility
page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=adobe%20flash%20player&os=64-bit[/url]


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which does not
> allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer (64 bit).
>
> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version of
> I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install is
> corrupted somehow.
>
> --
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>
>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
>> matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>
>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
>> 64-bit Vista version.
>>
>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use
>> the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank since
>> the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>
>> 3 questions:
>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit and not
>> 64-bit version?
>>
>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit on the
>> same PC?
>>
>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use programs
>> with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>> 64-bit Vista?[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 08-01-2009, 09:00 AM
Mike Hall - MVP
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

"MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thanks for prompt answer:
> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista and
> see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new security
> code (to the new PC).
> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player was
> the issue.
> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista compatibility
> page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=adobe%20flash%20player&os=64-bit[/url]
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which does
>> not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer (64
>> bit).
>>
>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version of
>> I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install is
>> corrupted somehow.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>
>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
>>> matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>
>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
>>> 64-bit Vista version.
>>>
>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use
>>> the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank
>>> since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>
>>> 3 questions:
>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit and
>>> not 64-bit version?
>>>
>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit on
>>> the same PC?
>>>
>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use programs
>>> with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>> 64-bit Vista?[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]


Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..

--

Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

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Old 08-01-2009, 09:30 AM
Dominic Payer
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs no
64-bit components.

Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
Player. See [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url]


On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:[color=blue]
> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>> security code (to the new PC).
>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>> was the issue.
>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=adobe%20flash%20player&os=64-bit[/url]
>>
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i
>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer
>>> (64 bit).
>>>
>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>
>>>
>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>
>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem
>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>
>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including
>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>
>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>>
>>>> 3 questions:
>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>
>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>
> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>[/color]
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:50 PM
Keith H
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

MAT wrote:[color=blue]
> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>
> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
> matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>
> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
> 64-bit Vista version.
>
> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use
> the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank
> since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>[/color]

You can install both 32-bit and 64-bit Java, this way javascript should work
regardless of the bit-ness of the browser..

Update Release Notes: [url]http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/ReleaseNotes.html[/url]

Download @ [url]http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp[/url]

This will take you to where you can select Java SE Runtime Environment 6u14 (it
seems 6u15 has been pulled).. Select and download 'Windows' and 'Windowsx64'

~k
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:10 PM
Poutnik
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

In article <l4CdnXtqarjCY-nXnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, keherma.
@.epix.net says...
[color=blue]
>
> You can install both 32-bit and 64-bit Java, this way javascript should work
> regardless of the bit-ness of the browser..
>[/color]
It looks like common confusion.

Javascript as interpreted script language,
hosted either by browsers, either by Windows scripting host,
has nothing in common but name with Java and Java applets.

--
Poutnik
The best depends on how the best is defined.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:00 AM
Richard Urban
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Yes it is. But read the following from the Adobe page you linked to:

Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23YokHSsEKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> 32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs no
> 64-bit components.
>
> Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
> Player. See [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url]
>
>
> On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:[color=green]
>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>>> security code (to the new PC).
>>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>>> was the issue.
>>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=adobe%20flash%20player&os=64-bit[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i
>>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer
>>>> (64 bit).
>>>>
>>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
>>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem
>>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including
>>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 questions:
>>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 08-03-2009, 03:10 AM
MAT
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Hi again:
According to this link to Adobe
[url]http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/[/url] Adobe Flash Player 10
released 7/30/09 is 64-bit compatible (4 days ago).
Version 10.0.32.18 is downloadable from [url]http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/[/url]

The other link (mentioned earlier in this thread)
[url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url] indicating that Adobe Flash
Player 10 is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser, was apparently
an old information last updated 2008-10-14.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:%23X$zjC4EKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Yes it is. But read the following from the Adobe page you linked to:
>
> Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.
>
> --
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23YokHSsEKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> 32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs no
>> 64-bit components.
>>
>> Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
>> Player. See [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url]
>>
>>
>> On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>>>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>>>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>>>> security code (to the new PC).
>>>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>>>> was the issue.
>>>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>>>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=adobe%20flash%20player&os=64-bit[/url]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i
>>>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>>>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer
>>>>> (64 bit).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
>>>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem
>>>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including
>>>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3 questions:
>>>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

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Old 08-03-2009, 03:30 AM
MAT
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Sorry, I was wrong! The 64-bit Adobe Flash Player 10 is only for Linux, see
[url]http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html[/url]

Windows and Macintosh-users still needs the 32-bit emulation.

The reason is explained on the FAQ page
[url]http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/faq.html[/url]

The 64-bit Flash Player 10 alpha release has been tested on Ubuntu 8 and
OpenSUSE 11 distributions and against the Firefox 3.0 browser.


"MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:uXIzIJCFKHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi again:
> According to this link to Adobe
> [url]http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/[/url] Adobe Flash Player 10
> released 7/30/09 is 64-bit compatible (4 days ago).
> Version 10.0.32.18 is downloadable from [url]http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/[/url]
>
> The other link (mentioned earlier in this thread)
> [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url] indicating that Adobe Flash
> Player 10 is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser, was
> apparently an old information last updated 2008-10-14.
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:%23X$zjC4EKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Yes it is. But read the following from the Adobe page you linked to:
>>
>> Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23YokHSsEKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> 32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs no
>>> 64-bit components.
>>>
>>> Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
>>> Player. See [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>>>>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>>>>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>>>>> security code (to the new PC).
>>>>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>>>>> was the issue.
>>>>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>>>>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=adobe%20flash%20player&os=64-bit[/url]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i
>>>>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>>>>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>>>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer
>>>>>> (64 bit).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>>>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>>>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
>>>>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem
>>>>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including
>>>>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3 questions:
>>>>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 08-03-2009, 03:40 AM
Dominic Payer
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Flash Player 10 is a 32-bit program and will work stand-alone in a
64-bit system. This is what compatible with 64-bit means.

It can also work as an add-in for a 32-bit browser.

It can't work with a 64-bit browser because the interface protocols for
32-bit and 64-bit programs are different. Flash Player will only work
with a 64-bit browser when Adobe release a version compiled in 64-bit.

There will need to be two separate programs, but there may be a single
installer which installs the 32-bit version on 32-bit systems and both
32 and 64-bit versions on 64-bit systems. This is what Adobe has done
with Photoshop CS4.



On 03/08/2009 11:07, MAT wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi again:
> According to this link to Adobe
> [url]http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/[/url] Adobe Flash Player 10
> released 7/30/09 is 64-bit compatible (4 days ago).
> Version 10.0.32.18 is downloadable from [url]http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/[/url]
>
> The other link (mentioned earlier in this thread)
> [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url] indicating that Adobe Flash
> Player 10 is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser, was
> apparently an old information last updated 2008-10-14.
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:%23X$zjC4EKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Yes it is. But read the following from the Adobe page you linked to:
>>
>> Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23YokHSsEKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> 32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs
>>> no 64-bit components.
>>>
>>> Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
>>> Player. See [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>>>>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>>>>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>>>>> security code (to the new PC).
>>>>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>>>>> was the issue.
>>>>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>>>>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=adobe%20flash%20player&os=64-bit[/url]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i
>>>>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>>>>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>>>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer
>>>>>> (64 bit).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>>>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>>>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
>>>>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem
>>>>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including
>>>>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3 questions:
>>>>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]
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Old 08-03-2009, 04:10 AM
MAT
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

> Flash Player 10 is a 32-bit program and will work stand-alone in a[color=blue]
> 64-bit system. This is what compatible with 64-bit means.
>
> It can also work as an add-in for a 32-bit browser.
>
> It can't work with a 64-bit browser because the interface protocols for
> 32-bit and 64-bit programs are different. Flash Player will only work
> with a 64-bit browser when Adobe release a version compiled in 64-bit.
>
> There will need to be two separate programs, but there may be a single
> installer which installs the 32-bit version on 32-bit systems and both
> 32 and 64-bit versions on 64-bit systems. This is what Adobe has done
> with Photoshop CS4.
>
>[/color]
Got it, thanks!
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:20 AM
Keith H
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Dominic Payer wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Flash Player 10 is a 32-bit program and will work stand-alone in a
> 64-bit system. This is what compatible with 64-bit means.
>[/color]

How long has there been 64 bit versions of Windows (XP/Vista)?

Still nothing from Adobe regarding 64 bit plugins, hell not so much as an Alpha
or Beta release -- nothing, nada, zilch zip zero!

They better get on the ball soon, if you look at the Bestbuy / Staples / Office
Max and Depot weekly fliers, nearly all their desktops and laptops are shipping
with Vista 64 bit. I bet when Windows 7 starts shipping, the majority will be
64 bit.

Soon enough i7 desktops and laptops will be available with their 6 to 12 gig of
triple-channel memory will be the commonplace standard.

~k



[color=blue]
> It can also work as an add-in for a 32-bit browser.
>
> It can't work with a 64-bit browser because the interface protocols for
> 32-bit and 64-bit programs are different. Flash Player will only work
> with a 64-bit browser when Adobe release a version compiled in 64-bit.
>
> There will need to be two separate programs, but there may be a single
> installer which installs the 32-bit version on 32-bit systems and both
> 32 and 64-bit versions on 64-bit systems. This is what Adobe has done
> with Photoshop CS4.
>
>
>
> On 03/08/2009 11:07, MAT wrote:[color=green]
>> Hi again:
>> According to this link to Adobe
>> [url]http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/[/url] Adobe Flash Player 10
>> released 7/30/09 is 64-bit compatible (4 days ago).
>> Version 10.0.32.18 is downloadable from [url]http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/[/url]
>>
>> The other link (mentioned earlier in this thread)
>> [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url] indicating that Adobe Flash
>> Player 10 is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser, was
>> apparently an old information last updated 2008-10-14.
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>> news:%23X$zjC4EKHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Yes it is. But read the following from the Adobe page you linked to:
>>>
>>> Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:%23YokHSsEKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> 32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs
>>>> no 64-bit components.
>>>>
>>>> Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
>>>> Player. See [url]http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html[/url]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>>>>>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>>>>>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>>>>>> security code (to the new PC).
>>>>>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash
>>>>>> player
>>>>>> was the issue.
>>>>>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>>>>>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>>>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=adobe%20flash%20player&os=64-bit[/url]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> skrev i
>>>>>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You
>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>>>>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet
>>>>>>> Explorer
>>>>>>> (64 bit).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>>>>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>>>>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@non-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>>>>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/[/url] is a list of
>>>>>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a
>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM
>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>>>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>>>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit
>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3 questions:
>>>>>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>>>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>>>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>>>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>>>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>>>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:50 AM
Eric
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista


"Keith H" <keherma.@.epix.net> wrote in message
news:h6ydnQEtc63Yf-vXnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
> Dominic Payer wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> Flash Player 10 is a 32-bit program and will work stand-alone in a 64-bit
>> system. This is what compatible with 64-bit means.
>>[/color]
>
> How long has there been 64 bit versions of Windows (XP/Vista)?
>
> Still nothing from Adobe regarding 64 bit plugins, hell not so much as an
> Alpha or Beta release -- nothing, nada, zilch zip zero!
>
> They better get on the ball soon, if you look at the Bestbuy / Staples /
> Office Max and Depot weekly fliers, nearly all their desktops and laptops
> are shipping with Vista 64 bit. I bet when Windows 7 starts shipping, the
> majority will be 64 bit.
>
> Soon enough i7 desktops and laptops will be available with their 6 to 12
> gig of triple-channel memory will be the commonplace standard.
>
> ~k
>[/color]
32-bit IE runs fine on a 64-bit Vista. I bought a 64-bit Vista machine from
Best Buy and it came with both 32-bit IE and 64-bit IE installed.
64-bit IE works fine on anything which does not use flash.
Adobe released a 64-bit flash version for Linux. They've projected a 64-bit
Windows version to be available later this year.
I believe Windows 7 official release date is this October.


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Old 08-03-2009, 08:50 AM
Keith H
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Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Eric wrote:
[color=blue]
> Adobe released a 64-bit flash version for Linux. They've projected a 64-bit
> Windows version to be available later this year.[/color]

in 2007 they (adobe) were promising 64 bit versions by the end of that year,
then around december that year the date was pushed back sometime in 2008..

in 2008 again it was promised by the end of the year only to once again push
pack the release date to sometime in 2009..

it is currently august 2009 and still no word, just the same empty promise
they've been parroting since 2007.. "soon"

there is not even an alpha or beta test happening.

needless to say I will not be holding my breath waiting for a 2009 release.

[color=blue]
> I believe Windows 7 official release date is this October.[/color]

the release date for windows 7 is october 22, 2009.

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