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Old 07-21-2009, 11:20 AM
ColTom2
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Vista Defragmenter

Hi:

Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.

Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?

Thanks,

ColTom2


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Old 07-21-2009, 11:30 AM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>
>[/color]


Dual boot with and defrag from XP.

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Old 07-21-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

Only have Vista installed on Dell laptop.


"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>
>[/color]


Dual boot with and defrag from XP.

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Old 07-21-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
>does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
>Thanks,
>
>ColTom2[/color]

Have you ever heard of Google?
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:40 AM
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"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>
>[/color]
Here are a couple, and you can find more using your favorite search engine.

[url]http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag[/url]

[url]http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/[/url]



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Old 07-21-2009, 11:40 AM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

Jkdefrag

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"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>
>[/color]

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Old 07-21-2009, 12:20 PM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

"Andrew" <haloman******.com> wrote:
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>Jkdefrag[/color]

It has a new name.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:30 PM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

I have been using Vista & its defragmenter since May 2007 with no problems.
It works silently & automatically in the background and is one less thing I
have to think about. I do not have a need to know the progression. It
only seems to 'take forever' because it works more or less continuously as
you carry out various tasks and operations that involve the hard drive. I
just suggest letting it do its job and don't worry about it.

"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:eTlTj8iCKHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>
>[/color]
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:50 PM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

Hi Andrew:

Thanks, as I think that you have a winner here with their new version 4.0
of MyDefrag!
[url]http://www.mydefrag.com/[/url]

ColTom2


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"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>
>[/color]


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Old 07-21-2009, 02:00 PM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:40:34 -0400, "ColTom2"
<noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hi Andrew:
>
> Thanks, as I think that you have a winner here with their new version 4.0
>of MyDefrag!
>[url]http://www.mydefrag.com/[/url]
>[/color]

My preference would be for auslogics, but anything is better than the
dumbed down Vista version.

Make sure Vista's performance wasting background defrag is not
running.
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:20 PM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

Hi:

This would appear to me to be one of the systemic problems that causes
Vista to run so slow. However, I by no means am a Vista expert or one that
has used Vista extensively.

I have been trying to help a friend with a Vista laptop that originally
ran extremely slow. I feel that I have made a great deal of head way, but
certainly am not yet to where I want to be with it. One might say that I am
still searching....

ColTom2


"On Request" <someone@email.somewhere> wrote in message
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I have been using Vista & its defragmenter since May 2007 with no problems.
It works silently & automatically in the background and is one less thing I
have to think about. I do not have a need to know the progression. It
only seems to 'take forever' because it works more or less continuously as
you carry out various tasks and operations that involve the hard drive. I
just suggest letting it do its job and don't worry about it.

"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:eTlTj8iCKHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>
>[/color]


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Old 07-21-2009, 02:50 PM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter


"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.[/color]

If there's no progression status how do you KNOW "it takes forever"?
In fact the Vista defragmenter is set by default to work when the computer
is idle so you don't actually need to launch it at all.

See here for more info:
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942092[/url]

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"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> This would appear to me to be one of the systemic problems that causes
> Vista to run so slow. However, I by no means am a Vista expert or one that
> has used Vista extensively.
>
> I have been trying to help a friend with a Vista laptop that originally
> ran extremely slow. I feel that I have made a great deal of head way, but
> certainly am not yet to where I want to be with it. One might say that I
> am
> still searching....
>[/color]

A fragmented HDD is one of the least likely causes of a slow machine....

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Old 07-21-2009, 03:30 PM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

Hi,

If you want to sit and watch blocks move, there are several third party
programs that reportedly work well. Among them are Diskeeper, Auslogics, and
PerfectDisk, all of which are perfectly suitable alternatives. Defragging,
however, is highly overrated from a performance enhancing perspective. Few
will see actual improvements in response time.

Vista's native defrag is designed to not interfere with the user actually
using of the machine. It runs as a low level service that does not require
the user to stop using the machine in order to complete the task at hand.
You may find it takes longer because it halts as necessary to allow
user-initiated tasks to take priority. It works fine when allowed to do the
job the way it was designed. It does lack the ability to manipulate the mft
and paging file, something you can find in one of the above third party
products, but the majority of users will find little benefit in doing so.

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"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> Windows Vista Defragmenter is about the worst that I have ever seen. It
> does not show you any progression status and it takes forever.
>
> Does anyone have an alternate free defragmenter and/or suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ColTom2
>
>[/color]

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Old 07-21-2009, 03:40 PM
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Re: Vista Defragmenter

"ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote:
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> This would appear to me to be one of the systemic problems that causes
>Vista to run so slow. However, I by no means am a Vista expert or one that
>has used Vista extensively.[/color]

Nope. It's very low priority when checking for "slow". And using
Vista's built-in defragmenter running on its own schedule is quite
sufficient.
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